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Postby Torrocca » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:07 pm

Kowani wrote:
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*notices ur execution device* owo what's this?

No. Just. No.


Your text says no, but your suffering says yes. >:3

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Postby Kowani » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:17 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Kowani wrote:No. Just. No.


Your text says no, but your suffering says yes. >:3

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…Remind me why I talk to you? :p
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:18 pm

Kowani wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Your text says no, but your suffering says yes. >:3

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…Remind me why I talk to you? :p


Because I'm fun.

With a pinch of psychotic added in, of course. :P
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Postby Kowani » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:30 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Kowani wrote:…Remind me why I talk to you? :p


Because I'm fun.

With a pinch of psychotic added in, of course. :P

Only one of these things is true.
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:32 pm

Kowani wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Because I'm fun.

With a pinch of psychotic added in, of course. :P

Only one of these things is true.

Well jeez, I hope it's not the latter.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:34 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Kowani wrote:Only one of these things is true.

Well jeez, I hope it's not the latter.


Kowani's right, it's actually a metric fuckton of psychotic added into the fun. >:3
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Postby Luminesa » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:46 pm

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:There are no women born female?

Depends on your definition of female. There are no women who are born as women.

...If your sex when you are born is female, then your biological sex is female. I know I didn't fail biology, I promise. Probably should have failed chemistry, but not biology.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:48 pm

Springfeal wrote:I knew one transgender person. They identified as a "androgynous transwoman lesbian identified male". Said person turned out to be a registered sex offender and is now back in prison now over stuff that was found on their computer.


I wonder how common sex crimes occur in the transgender community vs. the general population.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:48 pm

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Extremely important post.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:49 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Springfeal wrote:I knew one transgender person. They identified as a "androgynous transwoman lesbian identified male". Said person turned out to be a registered sex offender and is now back in prison now over stuff that was found on their computer.


I wonder how common sex crimes occur in the transgender community vs. the general population.


In what way do you mean? Trans person killing another trans person?
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:49 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Springfeal wrote:I knew one transgender person. They identified as a "androgynous transwoman lesbian identified male". Said person turned out to be a registered sex offender and is now back in prison now over stuff that was found on their computer.


I wonder how common sex crimes occur in the transgender community vs. the general population.


Depends if you want to count the crimes committed against trans* sex workers or if you want to sweep that under the rug for being inconvenient.
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Postby Auzkhia » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:53 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Daily reminder that there's no such thing as biological women.

Daily reminder that yes there is.

Daily reminder that trans women are indeed biological women.
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Postby Springfeal » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:57 pm

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Daily reminder that yes there is.

Daily reminder that trans women are indeed biological women.


Daily reminder that transwomen are artificially modified to resemeble biological women.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:00 pm

Auzkhia wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Daily reminder that yes there is.

Daily reminder that trans women are indeed biological women.

Daily reminder that no they aren't.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:00 pm

Springfeal wrote:
Auzkhia wrote:Daily reminder that trans women are indeed biological women.


Daily reminder that transwomen are artificially modified to resemeble biological women.

Indeed. XY codes for the male and XX codes for the female.

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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:07 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Depends on your definition of female. There are no women who are born as women.

...If your sex when you are born is female, then your biological sex is female. I know I didn't fail biology, I promise. Probably should have failed chemistry, but not biology.

Not necessarily. That is dependent on your definition of female and may also change in the future. That is, it can only really be true if defined on a genetic level, which is not useful or important in most contexts.
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:08 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Springfeal wrote:
Daily reminder that transwomen are artificially modified to resemeble biological women.

Indeed. XY codes for the male and XX codes for the female.

The combination of XY is not what codes for male traits, only the Y chromosome does. The default is female traits, which are not specifically coded based on having two X chromosomes either.
There are also exceptions to this general application.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:09 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Springfeal wrote:
Daily reminder that transwomen are artificially modified to resemeble biological women.

Indeed. XY codes for the male and XX codes for the female.


Ohohoho, just wait until you hear about XXY, XYY, or all the other chromosomal variants that, shockingly enough, if you've studied a modicum of biology, aren't that uncommon in human beings.
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:11 pm

Auzkhia wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Daily reminder that yes there is.

Daily reminder that trans women are indeed biological women.

This cannot be true because there are no biological women, but assuming you mean biological females, that is only true within some definitions of that term. Definitions including more categories, which I prefer to use, make it impossible for trans women to be biologically female within the current bounds of medical science.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:12 pm

Torrocca wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Indeed. XY codes for the male and XX codes for the female.


Ohohoho, just wait until you hear about XXY, XYY, or all the other chromosomal variants that, shockingly enough, if you've studied a modicum of biology, aren't that uncommon in human beings.

I have a sneaking suspicion that I'm XYY based on a few things that can be indicators of it, but never been tested for it.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:12 pm

Torrocca wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Indeed. XY codes for the male and XX codes for the female.


Ohohoho, just wait until you hear about XXY, XYY, or all the other chromosomal variants that, shockingly enough, if you've studied a modicum of biology, aren't that uncommon in human beings.

Actually they *are* that uncommon, plus such irregularities do not apply to every transgender person.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:12 pm

Torrocca wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Indeed. XY codes for the male and XX codes for the female.


Ohohoho, just wait until you hear about XXY, XYY, or all the other chromosomal variants that, shockingly enough, if you've studied a modicum of biology, aren't that uncommon in human beings.

I'm aware of cellular nondisjunction. It is not the norm though.

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Postby Bear Stearns » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:13 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Ohohoho, just wait until you hear about XXY, XYY, or all the other chromosomal variants that, shockingly enough, if you've studied a modicum of biology, aren't that uncommon in human beings.

I'm aware of cellular nondisjunction. It is not the norm though.


It often causes a lot of health issues.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:14 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Ohohoho, just wait until you hear about XXY, XYY, or all the other chromosomal variants that, shockingly enough, if you've studied a modicum of biology, aren't that uncommon in human beings.

Actually they *are* that uncommon, plus such irregularities do not apply to every transgender person.

1 in a thousand supposedly, so a few in each small town. But given that many people are not aware they are XXY or XYY, the numbers are just estimates.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:15 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I'm aware of cellular nondisjunction. It is not the norm though.


It often causes a lot of health issues.

Agreed. An example of that would be Down Syndrome which is caused by an extra copy of chromosome 21.
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