TDT 4: What the $#@! is a "womxn", anyways?

[Saciu]

Why do the straights get all 12 months but we're only allowed one?

What? We don't get 12 months! We don't even get 1 month. There is no 1 month set aside for straight people, those months are just MONTHS.

There months wherein non-LGBT people have better treatment throughout much of the world.

[The Blaatschapen]

Why do the straights get all 12 months but we're only allowed one?

What? We don't get 12 months! We don't even get 1 month. There is no 1 month set aside for straight people, those months are just MONTHS.

Straightember is in two months

[Loben The 2nd]

What? We don't get 12 months! We don't even get 1 month. There is no 1 month set aside for straight people, those months are just MONTHS.

Straightember is in two months

is that a thing?

[Saciu]

Why do the straights get all 12 months but we're only allowed one?

i mean veterans only get a day.

A month and a day. Or did you not care to honour military appreciation month?

[The Blaatschapen]

Straightember is in two months

is that a thing?

No.

[Loben The 2nd]

i mean veterans only get a day.

A month and a day. Or did you not care to honour military appreciation month?

didnt know it was a thing.

Then again Pride month has corporate backing and people telling the community how special it is.

Military appreciation month probably gets them a free meal at IHOP.

[Loben The 2nd]

is that a thing?

No.

Its for the best really.

[Saciu]

A month and a day. Or did you not care to honour military appreciation month?

didnt know it was a thing.

Then again Pride month has corporate backing and people telling the community how special it is.

Military appreciation month probably gets them a free meal at IHOP.

It's up to you to make a difference. Next Military Appreciation Month, holler your respect towards veterans to the entire world!

[Loben The 2nd]

didnt know it was a thing.

Then again Pride month has corporate backing and people telling the community how special it is.

Military appreciation month probably gets them a free meal at IHOP.

It's up to you to make a difference. Next Military Appreciation Month, holler your respect towards veterans to the entire world!

i donate and do charity for the whole year. i dont need some month to tell me which group is the super special group of the month is.

[Saciu]

It's up to you to make a difference. Next Military Appreciation Month, holler your respect towards veterans to the entire world!

i donate and do charity for the whole year. i dont need some month to tell me which group is the super special group of the month is.

Very good of you.

[Auzkhia]

PiV can still be gay if you're both girls or enbies.

I'm referring to sex, not gender.

Btw I do hope that eventually individualy LGBT months are replaced by entire fair treatment of LGBT people, a bit similar to year round pride months but treating LGBT people less differently.

TERFs, by definition, exclude all trans women. Transmeds do not, by definition, exclude all trans people who fail to pass. Your sweeping generalisations are quite frankly offensive. Sure, some transmeds are hostile to those who don't pass well, but that does not mean that all are. It would be useful if you gave evidence of your NB friend's experience.

Let's cut to the chase, transmedicalism is unnecessary gatekeeping, similar but to not same as other forms of gender based gatekeeping. The details and differences are that transmedicalism tries to answer a question that frankly doesn't need to be asked or answered.

How do we determine which trans people are valid? Why are people trans?

We don't, just take their word for it, to help them along with questioning and forming their identity. It doesn't matter why people are trans, people just are, and to repurpose Catherine Mackinnon:

"I always thought I don't care how someone becomes trans; it does not matter to me. It is just part of their specificity, their uniqueness, like everyone else's. Anybody who identifies as trans, wants to be trans, is going around being trans, as far as I'm concerned, is transgender"

[Ifreann]

What wrath?

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan

The Wrath of Tran

[Proctopeo]

*pours a shot of whisky in the tea* Nuance time, a lot of transmed do misgender trans women as men when they don't meet up to their "high" standards, while not exactly the same as terfs more wholesale approach, is awfully similar.

On the other side of the coin, most anti-transmeds I've met/seen are trans women, and many had a quite the hatred for trans men (most admitted and proud of it, some in denial). Though think less "misgendering" and "stock misandry combined with gaslighting and emotional abuse" for some of these cases; as in, they recognized them as men but saw them as trash because of it.

The only anti-trasmeds I've seen who do hold any ill will towards trans women are trans men who had bad experiences with the above.

A friend of mine, who is a nonbinary trans woman, got into a twitter argument with a very famous transmed, and she misgendered my friend and called her a pedophile for some reason.

It's Twitter, so there's many possible reasons for that accusation, only a few of them actually being real, valid red flags.
Though I'd need to know who this "very famous transmed" is, and maybe a basic summary of what your friend tweets/retweets.

[Hediacrana]

Why limit it to months?

Last I checked, most people who are LGBT are LGBT all year round

LGBT pride year - occurs annually between the years of 200,000 BCE and TBD CE!

Hands up if you agree the next geological epoch should be called the homocene.

[Cekoviu]

LGBT pride year - occurs annually between the years of 200,000 BCE and TBD CE!

Hands up if you agree the next geological epoch should be called the homocene.

[hand instantly and involuntarily shoots up]

[Vassenor]

Why do the straights get all 12 months but we're only allowed one?

i mean veterans only get a day.

The difference being no one expects veterans to disappear out of society after Veteran's Day.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

A non-dysphoric person who medically transitions will suddenly experience immense body dysphoria. They may well be unable to return to their previous life wherein they were their birth sex. Read up about detransitioners. Their existence is undeniable, and I'm sure as hell that we'll see a slew of them in the near future.

There are people who want to be LGBT, non-white etc in order to feel oppressed and thereby fit in with the stereotypical "liberal university student". I know this because I used to be one of them. I used to think it would be really cool to be LGBT. Then I realised that I'm trans, and I wish nothing more than not to be. Sadly, I can't because that's not how gender dysphoria works. You can also research transtrenders, of which there are many.

as a nondysphoric person who started medical transition years ago, literally no part of this post is true.

Moreover, psychiatry and psychology both agree that dysphoria need not be present for a person to be transgender.

[Auzkhia]

*pours a shot of whisky in the tea* Nuance time, a lot of transmed do misgender trans women as men when they don't meet up to their "high" standards, while not exactly the same as terfs more wholesale approach, is awfully similar.

On the other side of the coin, most anti-transmeds I've met/seen are trans women, and many had a quite the hatred for trans men (most admitted and proud of it, some in denial). Though think less "misgendering" and "stock misandry combined with gaslighting and emotional abuse" for some of these cases; as in, they recognized them as men but saw them as trash because of it.

The only anti-trasmeds I've seen who do hold any ill will towards trans women are trans men who had bad experiences with the above.

A friend of mine, who is a nonbinary trans woman, got into a twitter argument with a very famous transmed, and she misgendered my friend and called her a pedophile for some reason.

It's Twitter, so there's many possible reasons for that accusation, only a few of them actually being real, valid red flags.
Though I'd need to know who this "very famous transmed" is, and maybe a basic summary of what your friend tweets/retweets.

Transmisogyny plays a part in it, mind you.

It was Blaire White, btw, against twitter user @princess_stef69. Blaire deleted her post, so the evidence is gone.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

i mean veterans only get a day.

The difference being no one expects veterans to disappear out of society after Veteran's Day.

What difference? The same is for the LGBT community.

[Hediacrana]

I was thinking of what amazon was doing specifically, aiding ICE with their software and servers

Relevant, for this and for other reasons: a directory of alternatives to Amazon. May it serve you well.

[Proctopeo]

On the other side of the coin, most anti-transmeds I've met/seen are trans women, and many had a quite the hatred for trans men (most admitted and proud of it, some in denial). Though think less "misgendering" and "stock misandry combined with gaslighting and emotional abuse" for some of these cases; as in, they recognized them as men but saw them as trash because of it.

The only anti-trasmeds I've seen who do hold any ill will towards trans women are trans men who had bad experiences with the above.


It's Twitter, so there's many possible reasons for that accusation, only a few of them actually being real, valid red flags.
Though I'd need to know who this "very famous transmed" is, and maybe a basic summary of what your friend tweets/retweets.

Transmisogyny plays a part in it, mind you.

In which thing?

It was Blaire White, btw, against twitter user @princess_stef69. Blaire deleted her post, so the evidence is gone.

Blaire's an... odd figure, to be sure, but the best way to put my feelings on her is "her counterparts on the other side are ample evidence that she's nowhere near as bad as she could be, as a person". Never touched her content, though, I assume it's mediocre as political youtube tends to be.

As for the twitter user, a cursory analysis doesn't show any signs of her being a pedo, but she does come off as someone who should've been left in 2014 Tumblr, but with extra 2019 Twitter "woke" culture to add to the shit cauldron.
I'll do a more thorough investigation by looking for keywords, though. And by "keywords" I mean "searching for mention of one specific person", but also just "keywords".

Okay, a more thorough investigation brings up that she defended the concept of one certain preteen drag queen (who has gay men throw money at him while he dances), so I can... kinda see it? Though it's less "pedophile" and more "probably-unknowing enabler", given what she said and how she said it.

[Auzkhia]

Transmisogyny plays a part in it, mind you.

In which thing?

Transmedicalism, because when applied against trans women and transfeminine nonbinary people, it dismisses them as deluded men pretending to be a woman, which is a textbook example of transmisogyny, but unlike Dr Blanchard or most TERFs, it's because of "trends" for hot woke points™, not AGP. But what's the difference, they're still being misgendered.

In my experience most truscum I've encountered were trans men, though they're usually binary, except for one self-loathing nonbinary person I met.

[Proctopeo]

In which thing?

Transmedicalism, because when applied against trans women and transfeminine nonbinary people, it dismisses them as deluded men pretending to be a woman, which is a textbook example of transmisogyny, but unlike Dr Blanchard or most TERFs, it's because of "trends" for hot woke points™, not AGP. But what's the difference, they're still being misgendered.

That's a very one-sided and self-serving view to have. And not even accurate to reality.

In my experience most truscum I've encountered were trans men, though they're usually binary, except for one self-loathing nonbinary person I met.

My experience has been a lot more varied; in terms of the men/women ratio, it's probably about, ehh... 60/40? Definitely more trans men than trans women, but not by a lot. Non-binary peeps make up about 5-10 percent of the total, by my guestimations. Maybe more, but I imagine they'd get a lot of flak from anti-transmeds accusing them of being self-loathing (because they've been fed metric truckloads of misinformation), so they might keep it under wraps, at least when they're discourse on main. So as much as 20% is possible, though I've no confirmation of that.

My experience with anti-transmeds (& the tucute cult subgroup) has been a lot more homogeneous; using the same ratio format from before, it's probably around 5/95, if that, with non-binary people being probably 30-40% of them.

[Threlizdun]

Transmedicalism is just repackaged transphobia directed against those existing on the margins of our community. It attacks those who often cannot afford to transition, critiques other trans people's appearances to a point of creating even more dysphoria and discomfort, pushes out people experimenting with and questioning their gender identity (forgetting nearly all of us did this at at least one point), and completely deligimitizes non-binary identities and anything beyond the most conventional and assimilationist gender expressions. It's bullshit that thrusts unnecessary toxicity into our community, alienates us from one another, and makes us complicit in our own oppression.

Honestly, I really pity transmedicalists. Is dysphoria really all their trans identities mean to them? Is all the wonder and magic of being trans simply not exist for them? No gender euphoria or celebration of building identities for ourselves rather than for others? It's like just throwing away the history, culture, and passion our community has built in the name of just going back to the days where we were just seen as disordered freaks that needed to be fixed. It's such a defeatist attitude that negates all the beauty our community has produced, and I can't for the life of me understand how anyone would want to embrace such a depressing mindset other than an inability to move beyond their own internalized transphobia.

[Auzkhia]

Transmedicalism is just repackaged transphobia directed against those existing on the margins of our community. It attacks those who often cannot afford to transition, critiques other trans people's appearances to a point of creating even more dysphoria and discomfort, pushes out people experimenting with and questioning their gender identity (forgetting nearly all of us did this at at least one point), and completely deligimitizes non-binary identities and anything beyond the most conventional and assimilationist gender expressions. It's bullshit that thrusts unnecessary toxicity into our community, alienates us from one another, and makes us complicit in our own oppression.

Honestly, I really pity transmedicalists. Is dysphoria really all their trans identities mean to them? Is all the wonder and magic of being trans simply not exist for them? No gender euphoria or celebration of building identities for ourselves rather than for others? It's like just throwing away the history, culture, and passion our community has built in the name of just going back to the days where we were just seen as disordered freaks that needed to be fixed. It's such a defeatist attitude that negates all the beauty our community has produced, and I can't for the life of me understand how anyone would want to embrace such a depressing mindset other than an inability to move beyond their own internalized transphobia.

I get the impression that they're so miserable that they rather bring others down to their abyss rather than to help themselves, that they've gotten a taste of normality and decided its their turn to bash the queer non-conformists just to appease the transphobes, and that they project their own dysphoria and issues on to others.

It's pathetic really, if "trenders" exist, then it's them, for transmedicalism is a trend.