TDT 4: What the $#@! is a "womxn", anyways?

[Cappuccina]

Veering wildly off subject here, but why does it seem like so many trans people online are anarcho-communists? I haven't seen that trend in real life, but I've seen it across a wide variety of web fora.

I couldn't tell you, tbh.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Riiight, but why?

It might be because equality is one of the main draws in the Left, which more often than not would likely be appealing to a trans person.

That was actually a major "push" factor away from leftism for me, at least until I stopped eating out of the ideological trashcan and realised that humans being fundamentally unequal in worth still didn't make it fair for the economy to serve the interests of a small section of society and reward them far more than their value.

[Cekoviu]

Nope, nope.... I couldn't give to shits about the chorizo. If I ever actually get around to SRS I'm going all the way, Bobbitt the fucker.

I've already had SRS. I have never really had any doubts about removing my penis and it was 100% worth it.

Very jealous.

[First American Empire]

Veering wildly off subject here, but why does it seem like so many trans people online are anarcho-communists? I haven't seen that trend in real life, but I've seen it across a wide variety of web fora.

Many trans people are poor. Poverty causes Communism. Anarcho-Communists happen to be the most accepting of transgender people out of all the communist groups. Hence AnComs making up a plurality of trans people. (The rest are usually Social Democrats like me or moderate Liberals/Libertarians like Xeno.)

[Nakena]

It might be because equality is one of the main draws in the Left, which more often than not would likely be appealing to a trans person.

That was actually a major "push" factor away from leftism for me, at least until I stopped eating out of the ideological trashcan and realised that humans being fundamentally unequal in worth still didn't make it fair for the economy to serve the interests of a small section of society and reward them far more than their value.

Our new place is much better, isn't it?

[Cekoviu]

It might be because equality is one of the main draws in the Left, which more often than not would likely be appealing to a trans person.

That was actually a major "push" factor away from leftism for me, at least until I stopped eating out of the ideological trashcan and realised that humans being fundamentally unequal in worth still didn't make it fair for the economy to serve the interests of a small section of society and reward them far more than their value.

>tfw that exact same thing applies to leftism

[Nakena]

Veering wildly off subject here, but why does it seem like so many trans people online are anarcho-communists? I haven't seen that trend in real life, but I've seen it across a wide variety of web fora.

Many trans people are poor. Poverty causes Communism. Anarcho-Communists happen to be the most accepting of transgender people out of all the communist groups. Hence AnComs making up a plurality of trans people. (The rest are usually Social Democrats like me or moderate Liberals/Libertarians like Xeno.)

Theres a small but fair number of closeted trans/LGBT people deep inside (sometimes far-) right-wing terretory as well, but they tend to hide themselfs for their own reasons and due the general tendency of hostility inside (most of) the right-wing towards LGBT individuals.

[Cappuccina]

It might be because equality is one of the main draws in the Left, which more often than not would likely be appealing to a trans person.

That was actually a major "push" factor away from leftism for me, at least until I stopped eating out of the ideological trashcan and realised that humans being fundamentally unequal in worth still didn't make it fair for the economy to serve the interests of a small section of society and reward them far more than their value.

I think it's more that alot of trans people feel that they have no place on the right, regardless of their own personal opinion and they simply adopt the jargon and doctrine of the Left. The Right, of course doesn't help in that situation.

Over the years, I've stabilized into a rather comfy centerish spot.

[Hediacrana]

Tfw you're about to enter a discussion, but then notice that it's raining stereotypes and strawmen again so you decide you are probably not going to get anywhere.

[Nakena]

Tfw you're about to enter a discussion, but then notice that it's raining stereotypes and strawmen again so you decide you are probably not going to get anywhere.

Right now we have a pretty productive one. You're invited to join us.

[Saciu]

I've have enough time to gather that, yeah I'm dysphoric, but I'm not too sure about transitioning for a host of reasons. I don't hate the body I was born with, nothing wrong with it, other than I would overwhelmingly prefer to have a female form, and I do get depressed about it if I think about it too much (which is hard not to do sometimes). The struggle is real for a bitch.

Theres indeed a number of issues regarding transitioning, that is IMO mostly the current stage of medical technology in general, which I consider to be insufficient yet for myself, despite advancements being made continually. I think if its done in young age, it is working out better in the end. A good friend of mine has recently begun HRT and ever since she has been experiencing more depression and mental instability.

I must say in that context that I find the thought of male genital removal however to be revolting and I believe people should not do it unless they're 110% sure about it. It might be not an popular opinion but thats what I think.

Cock is simply the best.

If one truly has gender dysphoria, one will not regret SRS.

[Cekoviu]

Theres indeed a number of issues regarding transitioning, that is IMO mostly the current stage of medical technology in general, which I consider to be insufficient yet for myself, despite advancements being made continually. I think if its done in young age, it is working out better in the end. A good friend of mine has recently begun HRT and ever since she has been experiencing more depression and mental instability.

I must say in that context that I find the thought of male genital removal however to be revolting and I believe people should not do it unless they're 110% sure about it. It might be not an popular opinion but thats what I think.

Cock is simply the best.

If one truly has gender dysphoria, one will not regret SRS.

Not everyone has genital dysphoria, and SRS has some side effects that might be undesirable to some. Additionally, phalloplasty hasn't been perfected and it doesn't always work out great for trans men.

[Necroghastia]

Like I said, Gender euphoria is a valid reason to transition, it's a bad thing to deny someone something because they know it'd make them happier. Why deny someone a chance to be happier?

Every transmedicalist to whom I've talked consider gender euphoria only to be present in those with gender dysphoria, meaning that gender euphoric people have gender dysphoria that manifests when they are not presenting as their preferred gender.

Well, there's your problem.

[The New California Republic]

If one truly has gender dysphoria, one will not regret SRS.

Not everyone has genital dysphoria, and SRS has some side effects that might be undesirable to some. Additionally, phalloplasty hasn't been perfected and it doesn't always work out great for trans men.

Yup. My ex said no to lower surgery for these reasons, i.e. he didn't have genital dysphoria, and also wasn't particularly impressed with the potential results of surgery.

[Saciu]

Every transmedicalist to whom I've talked consider gender euphoria only to be present in those with gender dysphoria, meaning that gender euphoric people have gender dysphoria that manifests when they are not presenting as their preferred gender.

Well, there's your problem.

Are you aware of the number of transmedicalists to whom I've talked? Literally hundreds. Not an exaggeration.

[Necroghastia]

Also yeah let's be real transmedicalism is essentially just rebranded terfism. "You're not actually trans, you're just pretending to be for oppression points/because it's trendy" is only a few steps removed from "you're not actually a woman, you just have a fetish."

[Saciu]

If one truly has gender dysphoria, one will not regret SRS.

Not everyone has genital dysphoria, and SRS has some side effects that might be undesirable to some. Additionally, phalloplasty hasn't been perfected and it doesn't always work out great for trans men.

True. I'd like to correct myself. SRS for trans women has reached a very satisfying level. Those with high genital dysphoria will most likely be very satisfied with SRS if done competently. Anyone with genital dysphoria would certainly like ideal SRS, which sadly isn't yet a reality.

[Cekoviu]

Not everyone has genital dysphoria, and SRS has some side effects that might be undesirable to some. Additionally, phalloplasty hasn't been perfected and it doesn't always work out great for trans men.

True. I'd like to correct myself. SRS for trans women has reached a very satisfying level. Those with high genital dysphoria will most likely be very satisfied with SRS if done competently. Anyone with genital dysphoria would certainly like ideal SRS, which sadly isn't yet a reality.

I'd say that's generally true, but there are exceptions. When the financial and physical toll outweighs genital dysphoria (which varies in intensity), some may reasonably evaluate the situation and decide not to get SRS.

[Saciu]

Also yeah let's be real transmedicalism is essentially just rebranded terfism. "You're not actually trans, you're just pretending to be for oppression points/because it's trendy" is only a few steps removed from "you're not actually a woman, you just have a fetish."

That's far from the truth. Truscum wouldn't say "You're not actually trans, you're just pretending to be for oppression points/because it's trendy" to every trans person". They'd say it to those who clearly aren't trans. Transmedicalist aren't the demons you think. Moreover, haven't you seen the array of tucutes saying that truscum aren't really trans? It's by no means a majority, that I concede, but they do exist nonetheless. Isn't that the same number of steps from "you're not actually a woman, you just have a fetish."?

[Saciu]

True. I'd like to correct myself. SRS for trans women has reached a very satisfying level. Those with high genital dysphoria will most likely be very satisfied with SRS if done competently. Anyone with genital dysphoria would certainly like ideal SRS, which sadly isn't yet a reality.

I'd say that's generally true, but there are exceptions. When the financial and physical toll outweighs genital dysphoria (which varies in intensity), some may reasonably evaluate the situation and decide not to get SRS.

By ideal SRS, I'm talking about costless and toll-less (which will, unfortunately, almost certainly never happen).

[Necroghastia]

Also yeah let's be real transmedicalism is essentially just rebranded terfism. "You're not actually trans, you're just pretending to be for oppression points/because it's trendy" is only a few steps removed from "you're not actually a woman, you just have a fetish."

That's far from the truth. Truscum wouldn't say "You're not actually trans, you're just pretending to be for oppression points/because it's trendy" to every trans person". They'd say it to those who clearly aren't trans. Transmedicalist aren't the demons you think. Moreover, haven't you seen the array of tucutes saying that truscum aren't really trans? It's by no means a majority, that I concede, but they do exist nonetheless. Isn't that the same number of steps from "you're not actually a woman, you just have a fetish."?

TERFs wouldn't say "You're not actually a woman, you're just pretending to be because you have a fetish" to every woman. They'd say it to those who they believe clearly aren't women.

[Cekoviu]

I'd say that's generally true, but there are exceptions. When the financial and physical toll outweighs genital dysphoria (which varies in intensity), some may reasonably evaluate the situation and decide not to get SRS.

By ideal SRS, I'm talking about costless and toll-less (which will, unfortunately, almost certainly never happen).

Ah. I believe the former is the case with some really amazing insurance plans and places with universal healthcare. The latter requires an adjustment of biological rules and processes, so that isn't happening.

[Proctopeo]

Every transmedicalist to whom I've talked consider gender euphoria only to be present in those with gender dysphoria, meaning that gender euphoric people have gender dysphoria that manifests when they are not presenting as their preferred gender.

Well, there's your problem.

Tbh that's the stance I've seen from most trans people (as well as relevant professionals) except the hardline anti-transmeds. Either that, or that "gender euphoria" is a dumb concept, which leads to the same conclusion anyway.

Also yeah let's be real transmedicalism is essentially just rebranded terfism. "You're not actually trans, you're just pretending to be for oppression points/because it's trendy" is only a few steps removed from "you're not actually a woman, you just have a fetish."

It's really not.

[Paleoconservative Citizens]

Why do you need so many months to celebrate being LGBTQ+? For God's sake your sexuality is more like a religion than a preference.

[Cekoviu]

Why do you need so many months to celebrate being LGBTQ+? For God's sake your sexuality is more like a religion than a preference.

I find it interesting that religious people's go-to insult these days seems to be "your belief is like a religion!"
Also, we're not celebrating being LGBTQ+ in LGBTQ+ wrath month, we're celebrating wrath.