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Would you make the deal with the Mafia?

Yes
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34%
No (nothing is worth what this could cost me, not even the Governorship)
37
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Total votes : 56

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:44 pm

Please write a manga.
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The Chuck
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Postby The Chuck » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:52 pm

Say yes, become governor. Rally the national guard and have an airstrike on all mafia activity by using the Air-national guard. Public outcry = severe, shits given = none.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:01 pm

The Chuck wrote:Say yes, become governor. Rally the national guard and have an airstrike on all mafia activity by using the Air-national guard. Public outcry = severe, shits given = none.


A governor does not have the authority to order the air national guard to make air strikes on American territory
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Infected Mushroom
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:03 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Haha, a self-made oil millionaire is not going to lose an election in fucking Texas to some Ivy League trust fund rich kid.

Maybe in this theoretical the self-made oil millionaire is a Democrat.


his political alignment depends on your personal politics

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The Chuck
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Postby The Chuck » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:25 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
The Chuck wrote:Say yes, become governor. Rally the national guard and have an airstrike on all mafia activity by using the Air-national guard. Public outcry = severe, shits given = none.


A governor does not have the authority to order the air national guard to make air strikes on American territory


Almost happened with the Killdozer incident... Governor Bill Owens of Colorado considered authorizing an Apache gunship or Javelin anti-tank missile crew to shoot Marvin's tractor.

Depending on the state I'm governor of, I could also deputize the locals and go after the mafia vigilante style.
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Infected Mushroom
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:32 pm

The Chuck wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
A governor does not have the authority to order the air national guard to make air strikes on American territory


Almost happened with the Killdozer incident... Governor Bill Owens of Colorado considered authorizing an Apache gunship or Javelin anti-tank missile crew to shoot Marvin's tractor.

Depending on the state I'm governor of, I could also deputize the locals and go after the mafia vigilante style.


but she runs a nationwide crime syndicate

you're only in charge of Texas even if elected (I don't think you can bomb New York, New Jersey or LA for instance)

plus if she's not immediately killed she could use the Relic to make you kill yourself or something as one of the favours or something (though the public would probably get you first with their obsession with Constitutionalism)

not to mention she's likely made arrangements so that their involvement in your election could somehow be leaked if you make such a play
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El-Amin Caliphate
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:47 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Maybe in this theoretical the self-made oil millionaire is a Democrat.


his political alignment depends on your personal politics

So an Islamist Oil rig CEO who's running for governor....
Hey guys I just found a way to make my chances of winning (<) 10% :lol2:
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:51 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
his political alignment depends on your personal politics

So an Islamist Oil rig CEO who's running for governor....
Hey guys I just found a way to make my chances of winning (<) 10% :lol2:


Hence the importance of your election, think about it

HISTORY... IN THE MAKING!

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:52 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:So an Islamist Oil rig CEO who's running for governor....
Hey guys I just found a way to make my chances of winning (<) 10% :lol2:


Hence the importance of your election, think about it

HISTORY... IN THE MAKING!

Yeah no, I already committed a few sins (insulting my father, doing scandals), I'm committing another sin by gett8ng involved with a magician.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:53 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Hence the importance of your election, think about it

HISTORY... IN THE MAKING!

Yeah no, I already committed a few sins (insulting my father, doing scandals), I'm committing another sin by gett8ng involved with a magician.


Not even to become the first Muslim governor of Texas?

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El-Amin Caliphate
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:57 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Yeah no, I already committed a few sins (insulting my father, doing scandals), I'm committing another sin by gett8ng involved with a magician.


Not even to become the first Muslim governor of Texas?

>Muslim governor
>Effing Texas
The fact that these 2 things were said like this was a possibility is laughable :rofl:

Also it's because that I am Muslim that I will not take this deal. The Holy Qur'an says to stand for justice even if it's against yourself: https://legacy.quran.com/4/135
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Postby Kowani » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:59 pm

I’m an oil magnate. If I can’t hire someone to have her assassinated, we have a problem.
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Bloodshade
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Postby Bloodshade » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:00 pm

I'll just reply to her like this.

Seriously though, that'd hurt my ego and I'd rather not trust a 'Mafia Queen'. The mafia might sound, act or have noble intentions but they're criminals who profit off of the misfortune of others.

I'd rather not be a puppet to anyone and who's to say she wouldn't obstruct my ability to transform Texas into the model state that I want it to be?

Also, I like saying no to powerful people and watch them become shocked at not getting what they want.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:04 pm

Kowani wrote:I’m an oil magnate. If I can’t hire someone to have her assassinated, we have a problem.


She's too powerful and well guarded to be assassinated.

The only person who has a chance is Mr. Antihero.

But why would you want to assassinate her anyways?

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Heloin
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Postby Heloin » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:12 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Kowani wrote:I’m an oil magnate. If I can’t hire someone to have her assassinated, we have a problem.


She's too powerful and well guarded to be assassinated.

The only person who has a chance is Mr. Antihero.

But why would you want to assassinate her anyways?

She's a bad person and a naughty criminal.
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El-Amin Caliphate
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:15 pm

Heloin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
She's too powerful and well guarded to be assassinated.

The only person who has a chance is Mr. Antihero.

But why would you want to assassinate her anyways?

She's a bad person and a naughty criminal.

Tbf so is the main character in OP. He/she insulted his/her father, insulted his/her voters and was involved in several scandals. They don't deserve to be a governor.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:16 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Kowani wrote:I’m an oil magnate. If I can’t hire someone to have her assassinated, we have a problem.


She's too powerful and well guarded to be assassinated.

The only person who has a chance is Mr. Antihero.

But why would you want to assassinate her anyways?

Accept her help to win election. Assassinate her afterwards. Boom. No more problems.

Also. Please. I don’t need someone to walk up to her and stab her, I just need a a technician to set up explosives in her office basement.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:17 pm

Kowani wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
She's too powerful and well guarded to be assassinated.

The only person who has a chance is Mr. Antihero.

But why would you want to assassinate her anyways?

Accept her help to win election. Assassinate her afterwards. Boom. No more problems.

Also. Please. I don’t need someone to walk up to her and stab her, I just need a a technician to set up explosives in her office basement.

Or hire a magician to kill her for you.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:17 pm

Heloin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
She's too powerful and well guarded to be assassinated.

The only person who has a chance is Mr. Antihero.

But why would you want to assassinate her anyways?

She's a bad person and a naughty criminal.


generally, if her sister is not killed, she's fairly reasonable

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Postby Kowani » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:19 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Kowani wrote:Accept her help to win election. Assassinate her afterwards. Boom. No more problems.

Also. Please. I don’t need someone to walk up to her and stab her, I just need a a technician to set up explosives in her office basement.

Or hire a magician to kill her for you.

Unless magic operates like a science, with clear rules, I don’t trust it.
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Postby Sapientia Et Bellum » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:22 pm

I mean, there are much easier ways to play dirty in an election than becoming the slave of a magical leader of the mafia.... Id lie and cheat my way to the top then crack down on this mafia
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:22 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:She's a bad person and a naughty criminal.


generally, if her sister is not killed, she's fairly reasonable

This is irrelevant to what Heloin said.
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Postby Bloodshade » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:28 pm

Also, I'm a tad bit confused by the 'We're going to be extinct' rant. I'm a CEO of an oil company. I don't think I've seen a CEO from the fossil fuel industry care about global warming and the environment.

Also, businessmen generally don't make good leaders. Running a corporation is not the same as running a nation at all and I'm kinda glad the Texans know this and doubt my competence. It'd be even worse if they knew I was in cahoots with this Mafia Queen! :P
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:33 pm

Bloodshade wrote:Also, I'm a tad bit confused by the 'We're going to be extinct' rant. I'm a CEO of an oil company. I don't think I've seen a CEO from the fossil fuel industry care about global warming and the environment.

Also, businessmen generally don't make good leaders. Running a corporation is not the same as running a nation at all and I'm kinda glad the Texans know this and doubt my competence. It'd be even worse if they knew I was in cahoots with this Mafia Queen! :P


you're probably right considering I pulled the "That's the problem nowadays! No one cares; NO ONE THAT WE FACT EXTINCTION!" from a 2 part direct to TV so-bad-its-good Hitler drama movie

I figured it could be a general and hyperbolic phrase that could represent just about any politics (ex maybe its a statement about global warming, the immigration crisis, or oncoming economic collapse)

but you're probably right
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:35 pm

"No one that we face extinction" also doesn't make grammatical sense. Like I have no idea what he's saying here.
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