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Postby Socialist Workers Combine » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:31 pm

Kragholm Free States wrote: If you eliminate respect from the former example, society devolves into chaos as business, government, and the education system all grind to a halt.

Oh no, what will we do without elites

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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:31 pm

Socialist Workers Combine wrote:I’m translating the taodejing and I didn’t understand any of this.


You specify dress codes as restricting the amount of skin girls can show. I have never heard of a dress code that was more restrictive for girls than it was for boys, have you?
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Postby Kragholm Free States » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:33 pm

Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
Kragholm Free States wrote: If you eliminate respect from the former example, society devolves into chaos as business, government, and the education system all grind to a halt.

Oh no, what will we do without elites

Without elites, who's going to enforce the child labour that you were advocating earlier?
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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:34 pm

Ifreann wrote:I think it's more of a reference to the Gilets Jaune.


Oh I'm sure it is, but surely they're aware of the connotations surrounding their choice of symbol, right? That's what automatically came to mind was not the Yellow Vest movement, but those stars worn by Jews in Nazi Germany and Nazi-occupied Europe.

And more power to them.


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Postby Socialist Workers Combine » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:35 pm

Kragholm Free States wrote:Without elites, who's going to enforce the child labour that you were advocating earlier?

The proletariat will bestow part time labour on the children in it’s benevolence.

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Postby Kragholm Free States » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:36 pm

Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
Kragholm Free States wrote:Without elites, who's going to enforce the child labour that you were advocating earlier?

The proletariat will bestow part time labour on the children in it’s benevolence.

Please tell me you're not serious.
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Postby Socialist Workers Combine » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:37 pm

Des-Bal wrote:You specify dress codes as restricting the amount of skin girls can show. I have never heard of a dress code that was more restrictive for girls than it was for boys, have you?

I don’t specifically recall any such unless you mean no tank tops.

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Postby Socialist Workers Combine » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:38 pm

Kragholm Free States wrote:Please tell me you're not serious.

The proletariat seems to approve of a job on the side.

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Postby Sanctum and Ultima » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:41 pm

Saint Columcille wrote:They should talk to the boys about being respectful instead of restricting the girls.
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Postby Kragholm Free States » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:42 pm

Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
Kragholm Free States wrote:Please tell me you're not serious.

The proletariat seems to approve of a job on the side.

An industrial job for young children? I'd like to see your source for that claim.
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Postby Gudmund » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:45 pm

In Australia my highschool kept changing up the annual graduation jacket you'd wear during the last 1-2 years of highschool. Each grade had a different one, but everyone thought it was just to get money since they priced them at $80. Then there was the usual stuff, detention if caught breaching the dress code (earings, non-black shoes, modified uniform). The worst part was during Winter, we weren't allowed to bring our own long pants or jumpers, and had to buy the school issued ones made of thin cheap materials. If you didn't have a uniform (broken, lost, stolen or something), they'd send you to the office to wear some spares, which never fit.

Aside from the uniforms it was a pretty good school though.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:47 pm

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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I went to private schools that required uniforms. This is not something that ever really came up, protests in dress codes. You used your uniform and that was it.

And uniforms are worse than dress codes.


I never saw any issue with wearing one. Of course, this is not me discounting the fact that yes, some school dress codes come across as too stringent, but it wasn’t something that came up for me because I had to wear a uniform. Other than the length of the skirt, I didn’t see much of a fuss made over anything else.
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Postby Saint Arsenio » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:51 pm

At my School, we don't have School Uniforms, however, I do feel that dress code restrictions are more for females, rather than males (I'm a Male). I sometimes see that some girls at my school don't look comfortable, due to the restrictions on things they can't wear, like leggings, tights, shorts, jeans with cuts in them, etc. I feel that schools should let anyone, male or female, wear what they are comfortable in.
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Postby Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:52 pm

Kragholm Free States wrote:
Socialist Workers Combine wrote:The proletariat will bestow part time labour on the children in it’s benevolence.

Please tell me you're not serious.


Seriously. It should be full-time. Then they qualify for benefits and pension.
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Postby Socialist Workers Combine » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:05 pm

Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners wrote:Seriously. It should be full-time. Then they qualify for benefits and pension.

We’ll divide it with education but give them benefits and pension as if.
We can do the same for adults. After all we need to keep the proletariat strong.
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Postby Socialist Workers Combine » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:09 pm

Saint Arsenio wrote:I sometimes see that some girls at my school don't look comfortable

You see? You are all making the girls uncomfortable with your misogynistic dress codes.
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Postby Andsed » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:14 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Serrus wrote:And uniforms are worse than dress codes.


I never saw any issue with wearing one. Of course, this is not me discounting the fact that yes, some school dress codes come across as too stringent, but it wasn’t something that came up for me because I had to wear a uniform. Other than the length of the skirt, I didn’t see much of a fuss made over anything else.

Yeah TBH I don''t see any problems with uniforms. The thing I personally have a problem is shit like banning short shorts or banning showing shoulders and other restrictive stuff like that.
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Socialist Workers Combine wrote:After all we need to keep the proletariat strong.


Working inside that machinery, they're going to get absolutely ripped.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:18 pm

Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Clothes maketh the man?

I’m an enby.

Do clothes maketh the enby? Science must investigate.


Costa Fierro wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I think it's more of a reference to the Gilets Jaune.


Oh I'm sure it is, but surely they're aware of the connotations surrounding their choice of symbol, right? That's what automatically came to mind was not the Yellow Vest movement, but those stars worn by Jews in Nazi Germany and Nazi-occupied Europe.

And more power to them.


So they'll dress like women of the night and complain when they get treated as such?

They'll dress however they want and complain when they get treated in any way they don't like, and good for them.
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:18 pm

Saint Arsenio wrote:At my School, we don't have School Uniforms, however, I do feel that dress code restrictions are more for females, rather than males (I'm a Male). I sometimes see that some girls at my school don't look comfortable, due to the restrictions on things they can't wear, like leggings, tights, shorts, jeans with cuts in them, etc. I feel that schools should let anyone, male or female, wear what they are comfortable in.


Is the apparent focus on female apparel just a product of female apparel being generally less restrictive? Rules or no rules you're probably not going to see many male students with low necklines or short shorts.
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Postby Socialist Workers Combine » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:20 pm

Ifreann wrote:Do clothes maketh the enby? Science must investigate.

It doesn’t hurt OwO

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Postby Socialist Workers Combine » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:27 pm

Saint Arsenio wrote:I sometimes see that some girls at my school don't look comfortable, due to the restrictions on things they can't wear, like leggings, tights, shorts, jeans with cuts in them, etc.

Do you all not see the crime against the girls here?

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Postby Kragholm Free States » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:31 pm

Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
Saint Arsenio wrote:I sometimes see that some girls at my school don't look comfortable, due to the restrictions on things they can't wear, like leggings, tights, shorts, jeans with cuts in them, etc.

Do you all not see the crime against the girls here?


And are boys free to wear leggings, tights, shorts, and jeans with cuts in them?
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:41 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Socialist Workers Combine wrote:I’m an enby.

Do clothes maketh the enby? Science must investigate.

As Mr. Clemens said, "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society."
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