Are School Dress Codes too Restrictive?

[The of Japan]

I will say that school uniforms need to be at reasonable cost - specific items shouldn't be required from a price-gouging school shop, e.g. if there's a school logo in the jacket/blazer whatever you should be able to buy that cheap and sew it into a generic one.

Also don't be a twat about weather conditions. One year at my school it was unseasonably hot and the headmaster insisted that everyone wear blazers on the speech day/award ceremony thing. Several people had to be taken to the doctor's room after being made to sit outside in the boiling hot for hours in stuffy jackets and without any refreshments.

Yeah, that is idiotic, my school did the same.

That is really dumb. Why are schools so strict on dress codes?

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Yeah, that is idiotic, my school did the same.

That is really dumb. Why are schools so strict on dress codes?

Nobody knows.

[Novus America]

I will say that school uniforms need to be at reasonable cost - specific items shouldn't be required from a price-gouging school shop, e.g. if there's a school logo in the jacket/blazer whatever you should be able to buy that cheap and sew it into a generic one.

Also don't be a twat about weather conditions. One year at my school it was unseasonably hot and the headmaster insisted that everyone wear blazers on the speech day/award ceremony thing. Several people had to be taken to the doctor's room after being made to sit outside in the boiling hot for hours in stuffy jackets and without any refreshments.

That is an important point.
A uniform policy should be implemented properly.

Though in the case you mention even in proper warm weather clothing sitting out in the sun for hours without water is a bad idea. The bad idea went much deeper than just the blazers.

Usually a light colored short sleeve shirt should be available for warm weather.

And if you make the uniform too expensive then you are not actually saving children and parents any money on not having to buy as many other clothes.

Also ideally uniforms should be issued free of additional charge or at the very least subsidized for those needing financial aid.

An advantage of having multiple schools coordinate the same basic uniform (possibly with a sew or iron on patch if they want something school specific) is it can make a uniform cheaper and available from multiple sources.

[Diopolis]

Dress codes aren't restrictive enough. Students should dress modestly and somewhat more than casually.

[Longweather]

Yes, I suppose gangs should be addressed more directly.
I never had any issue with them myself though.

I do, but that's a natural aversion to being extorted or threatened with death for being in the "wrong" neighborhood, wearing certain colors, or being out after dark.

It was my understanding that the dress codes against gang colors was specifically for the middle reason, to prevent violence against those accidentally wearing the wrong shade of a color.

My parents had to pay through their noses just so I could wear a pointless, arbitrary, individuality-erasing uniform at an international school with a mostly British staff and British curriculum and ethos, and still get pulled aside and told off because my shirt wasn't tucked in properly despite my best attempts to adhere to the authoritarian uniform policy to the letter, only to then completely ditch all of that nonsense while studying in college for several years. My current workplace doesn't require a uniform and the dress code is laid back and semi-formal.

So the schoolteachers and principal who subjected me to all that pointless school uniform bullshit that ultimately had no bearing on my adult life can take their arbitrary dress code and shove it up theirs. Any school with a mandatory uniform policy has an overly restrictive dress code by definition. And I'm a dude and not a fan of restrictive dress codes in general. Not a feminist.

Wait, how can something be laid back and semi-formal? Being semi-formal isn't very laid back.

[Saiwania]

The dress codes should be the same ones most businesses require. If its Fortune 500, even better. That'll really get the high school age kids ready for HR before they even graduate. Imagine if every child were dressed up like Richie Rich? That just might be amazing. The environment should scream Corporate.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

The dress codes should be the same ones most businesses require. If its Fortune 500, even better. That'll really get the high school age kids ready for HR before they even graduate. Imagine if every child were dressed up like Richie Rich? That just might be amazing. The environment should scream Corporate.

Perhaps those smart dress codes are the problem, not the solution?

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Dress codes aren't restrictive enough. Students should dress modestly and somewhat more than casually.

One's youth should be a time to have fun. This mind-numbing capitalist world of ours will erase kids' individuality soon enough, no need to accelerate it.

[Esheaun Stroakuss]

Yeah, of course. Fuck 'em.

[Novus America]

Dress codes aren't restrictive enough. Students should dress modestly and somewhat more than casually.

One's youth should be a time to have fun. This mind-numbing capitalist world of ours will erase kids' individuality soon enough, no need to accelerate it.

Youth is not only about having fun. It is only partially about having fun.
And uniforms do not eliminate individuality at all, how you dress in school is not who you are nor how you think. What mass produced Chinese slave made crap you put on does not define you.

Plus they can where whatever they want the majority of the time, as the majority of the time they are not in school anyways.

[New Bremerton]

My parents had to pay through their noses just so I could wear a pointless, arbitrary, individuality-erasing uniform at an international school with a mostly British staff and British curriculum and ethos, and still get pulled aside and told off because my shirt wasn't tucked in properly despite my best attempts to adhere to the authoritarian uniform policy to the letter, only to then completely ditch all of that nonsense while studying in college for several years. My current workplace doesn't require a uniform and the dress code is laid back and semi-formal.

So the schoolteachers and principal who subjected me to all that pointless school uniform bullshit that ultimately had no bearing on my adult life can take their arbitrary dress code and shove it up theirs. Any school with a mandatory uniform policy has an overly restrictive dress code by definition. And I'm a dude and not a fan of restrictive dress codes in general. Not a feminist.

Wait, how can something be laid back and semi-formal? Being semi-formal isn't very laid back.

Basically, I get to wear long pants of any sort, formal shoes and dark socks, and a t-shirt that is relatively plain and not overly colorful or bombastic, which is not too far from how I normally dress outside the house at other times, except that certain t-shirts are off-limits at work. Feels pretty laid back to me.

[Diopolis]

Dress codes aren't restrictive enough. Students should dress modestly and somewhat more than casually.

One's youth should be a time to have fun. This mind-numbing capitalist world of ours will erase kids' individuality soon enough, no need to accelerate it.

Nonsense. Youth is for learning.
We don't need to have a discussion over what shorts are too short if students can't wear shorts at all.

[Katganistan]

You’d have to ask a proper male, I’m an enby.
To me pants are traditionally masculine. If you want to wear a kilt sure.
But women can wear things like leggings (which is often considered non-uniform...)
Guys usually have no problem with pants, and sometimes pants are the uniform.
And pants are traditionally male.

If they’re the option for the uniform, it is implied that feminine wear isn’t professional enough.
And that therefore women are not professional enough.

Have you ever actually worked in an office before?

I have. Women wear dresses, suits with both skirts or slacks, or slacks/blouse/blazer, skirt/blouse/blazer, sweater/skirt or sweater/slacks.

The are not treated or looked on as 'less professional.'

I always wore black slacks. a jewel toned blouse, and a cardigan when working on Avenue of the Americas in NYC and fit perfectly into corporate culture. So did my manage who always wore dresses and heels.

[Katganistan]

There should be a set uniform. The world encourages too much individualism and self-centredness as it is. Schools shouldn't make themselves part of the problem.

Screw that, I'm still going in next Monday in jeans, sandals, and a t-shirt.

[Earthbound Immortal Squad]

Yeah, that is idiotic, my school did the same.

That is really dumb. Why are schools so strict on dress codes?

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Many reasons firstly it teaches kids to have some level of formality rather than coming into school with pajamas or something silly. It also stops a sense of discrimination between children if they don't have the latest new shirt or whatever it makes them stand out and will probably lead to worse (we all know how kind children can be). I myself detested uniforms I remember nearly boiling alive in them during summer term but I understood why it was necessary.

[Scomagia]

No. The only problem I'd have with a dress code is if it required the girls to wear skirts, as some schools do. Otherwise, dress codes are generally fine. You're there to learn, not put on a fashion show.

[Scomagia]

One's youth should be a time to have fun. This mind-numbing capitalist world of ours will erase kids' individuality soon enough, no need to accelerate it.

Youth is not only about having fun. It is only partially about having fun.
And uniforms do not eliminate individuality at all, how you dress in school is not who you are nor how you think. What mass produced Chinese slave made crap you put on does not define you.

Plus they can where whatever they want the majority of the time, as the majority of the time they are not in school anyways.

Indeed. Uniforms have the added benefit of being at least somewhat formal, which is important because there are many situations as an adult in which you have to dress somewhat formally whether you like it or not. Better to impress that early on.

[Diopolis]

No. The only problem I'd have with a dress code is if it required the girls to wear skirts, as some schools do. Otherwise, dress codes are generally fine. You're there to learn, not put on a fashion show.

Uniforms require girls to wear skirts somewhat frequently. Dress codes rarely due, except at extremely religious schools.

[Scomagia]

No. The only problem I'd have with a dress code is if it required the girls to wear skirts, as some schools do. Otherwise, dress codes are generally fine. You're there to learn, not put on a fashion show.

Uniforms require girls to wear skirts somewhat frequently. Dress codes rarely due, except at extremely religious schools.

They shouldn't, though. Uniforms should require pants for all. No skirts. They're impractical and, frankly, unfair.

[Diopolis]

Uniforms require girls to wear skirts somewhat frequently. Dress codes rarely due, except at extremely religious schools.

They shouldn't, though. Uniforms should require pants for all. No skirts. They're impractical and, frankly, unfair.

Meh. They're uniforms.

[Scomagia]

They shouldn't, though. Uniforms should require pants for all. No skirts. They're impractical and, frankly, unfair.

Meh. They're uniforms.

I'm going to guess you're a male.

[Woods Is Back]

Honestly, they are to unrestrictive. Before I (unfairly) got kicked out of my old school, we had to wear full suits, and the girls had to wear dresses, and the like. I thought it was great because it took down those social barriers, and school was well, what it is for- learning, not social judgement.

In my opinion, if schools made all students with this dress code, I'd like it.

[Immoren]

Youth is not only about having fun. It is only partially about having fun.
And uniforms do not eliminate individuality at all, how you dress in school is not who you are nor how you think. What mass produced Chinese slave made crap you put on does not define you.

Plus they can where whatever they want the majority of the time, as the majority of the time they are not in school anyways.

Indeed. Uniforms have the added benefit of being at least somewhat formal, which is important because there are many situations as an adult in which you have to dress somewhat formally whether you like it or not. Better to impress that early on.

Strange that young here learn to wear formal clothes when appropriate even there's no uniforms and dress codes are lax.

No. The only problem I'd have with a dress code is if it required the girls to wear skirts, as some schools do. Otherwise, dress codes are generally fine. You're there to learn, not put on a fashion show.

Uniforms require girls to wear skirts somewhat frequently. Dress codes rarely due, except at extremely religious schools.

Skirts for all genders is obviously better if school uniform has to be reinforced.

[Scomagia]

Indeed. Uniforms have the added benefit of being at least somewhat formal, which is important because there are many situations as an adult in which you have to dress somewhat formally whether you like it or not. Better to impress that early on.

Strange that young here learn to wear formal clothes when appropriate even there's no uniforms and dress codes are lax.

Uniforms require girls to wear skirts somewhat frequently. Dress codes rarely due, except at extremely religious schools.

Skirts for all genders is obviously better if school uniform has to be reinforced.

Kind of a silly point to make, considering I didn't say they couldn't learn formal dress without uniforms. Uniforms help, though.

[Diopolis]

Meh. They're uniforms.

I'm going to guess you're a male.

Yes.