Are School Dress Codes too Restrictive?

[Des-Bal]

This is simply misogyny.

It really can't be because, again, you've spelled out that the rules are the same for everybody.

[Farnhamia]

Why?

Because females wearing sexy clothing is really just females being females.

You should call these "females" what they are: minor children. You're not in school to make fashion statements, you're there to learn. I'm all for comfort in what children where to school but I'm against extending the sexualization of kids to what should be a place of learning.

[Socialist Workers Combine]

Are females who don't wear sexy clothing not being females?

I believe they have grown tired of sexy clothing in this instance and wish to wear something else.
You must not try to interfere.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I will second guess whoever I want, and I don't care if that person is a minority or not. People will use their race and gender as a political tool, and I won't overlook that.

Men need to shut up about the female body and we need to help them do it.
Men have no purview over the female body. Or others bodies period.

I ain't shutting up, and no amount of far-left propaganda from you is going to make me change that.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Because females wearing sexy clothing is really just females being females.

You should call these "females" what they are: minor children. You're not in school to make fashion statements, you're there to learn. I'm all for comfort in what children where to school but I'm against extending the sexualization of kids to what should be a place of learning.

This ^^

[Kragholm Free States]

I will second guess whoever I want, and I don't care if that person is a minority or not. People will use their race and gender as a political tool, and I won't overlook that.

Men need to shut up about the female body and we need to help them do it.
Men have no purview over the female body. Or others bodies period.

This thread is about dress codes in schools, all of which apply equally to girls and boys. Don't try and make this about men's purview over the female body, it has nothing to do with that. I'm sure in many schools the dress codes are set by women - does that mean they shouldn't be allowed to set a dress code for boys?

[Socialist Workers Combine]

You're not in school to make fashion statements, you're there to learn.

“Sex and marriage is for the purpose of reproduction and people must not fornicate or gays marry.”

[Kragholm Free States]

Are females who don't wear sexy clothing not being females?

I believe they have grown tired of sexy clothing in this instance and wish to wear something else.
You must not try to interfere.

"Grown tired of"? Do you believe that the default state of women is to wear sexy clothing? Even as children?

[Farnhamia]

You're not in school to make fashion statements, you're there to learn.

“Sex and marriage is for the purpose of reproduction and people must not fornicate or gays marry.”

Not the same thing.

It is extremely rude to quote only a small part of someone's post. Just hit the "Quote" button and don't change anything.

[Socialist Workers Combine]

I'm sure in many schools the dress codes are set by women - does that mean they shouldn't be allowed to set a dress code for boys?

I wasn’t the one trying to set dress codes, I simply consider anti-gang reasonable as addressing violent criminal elements.

[Socialist Workers Combine]

"Grown tired of"? Do you believe that the default state of women is to wear sexy clothing? Even as children?

No, just some of the time. I believe the term you are looking for is teenagers or youth.

[Kragholm Free States]

I'm sure in many schools the dress codes are set by women - does that mean they shouldn't be allowed to set a dress code for boys?

I wasn’t the one trying to set dress codes, I simply consider anti-gang reasonable as addressing violent criminal elements.

Not my point at all. You are trying to imply that dress codes are exclusively an effort by men to exert control over girls. I am pointing out that many schools have female headteachers and senior staff - should those women not be allowed to set dress codes for boys?

[Kragholm Free States]

"Grown tired of"? Do you believe that the default state of women is to wear sexy clothing? Even as children?

No, just some of the time. I believe the term you are looking for is teenagers or youth.

Don't play semantics with me. The term I am looking for is children, that is why I said children. Why do you want children to wear clothing you consider "sexy"?

[Socialist Workers Combine]

It is extremely rude to quote only a small part of someone's post. Just hit the "Quote" button and don't change anything.

You should call these "females" what they are: minor children. You're not in school to make fashion statements, you're there to learn. I'm all for comfort in what children where to school but I'm against extending the sexualization of kids to what should be a place of learning.

Very well, I will address your other point. Youth already have sex - or at least sexuality. Therefore one is not “extending” anything. One simply wishes to oppress what exists already as “not attaining to our totalizing purpose”.

Of course, actual sex and teen pregnancy is lower is non-conservative states.

[Socialist Workers Combine]

Don't play semantics with me. The term I am looking for is children, that is why I said children. Why do you want children to wear clothing you consider "sexy"?

They do - it doesn’t effect me, except peripherals as one who is restricted in clothing.
I sleep with men, not female teens.

[Kragholm Free States]

It is extremely rude to quote only a small part of someone's post. Just hit the "Quote" button and don't change anything.

Very well, I will address your other point. Youth already have sex. Therefore one is not “extending” anything. One simply wishes to oppress what exists already as “not attaining to our totalizing purpose”.

A handful of children may already have sex, but they fucking well shouldn't and that's absolutely no fucking reason to deliberately sexualise them. There are age of consent laws for a reason - children do not have the mental maturity to give informed consent. If you're going to argue that they do, I expect you to provide an extremely extensive selection of psychological studies to back your argument up.

[Socialist Workers Combine]

I am pointing out that many schools have female headteachers and senior staff - should those women not be allowed to set dress codes for boys?

Not really, we should grow out of professional dress as a culture. If you want to say wear a belt I understand that.

[Farnhamia]

It is extremely rude to quote only a small part of someone's post. Just hit the "Quote" button and don't change anything.

Very well, I will address your other point. Youth already have sex. Therefore one is not “extending” anything. One simply wishes to oppress what exists already as “not attaining to our totalizing purpose”.

See, you did it again. I replied to your post, "Sex and marriage is for the purpose of reproduction and people must not fornicate or gays marry" by saying that is not the same as my saying schools are for learning, not for fashion statements.

Yes, kids do have sex. Is that a good thing? Probably not in a lot of cases. The reason they have sex early now is because we have a great deal of sexualization in our society and it has affected even children. Who's to blame? I like blaming you but that's just me being facetious. If society is sexualized, wouldn't it be a good thing to provide a place where that sexualization doesn't extend? Again, I'm not against kids being comfortable in school and I'm not against them looking good. I am against sexual displays, which you seem to favor.

[The British American Colonies]

OP is a perv

[Farnhamia]

OP is a perv

Let's not be calling people names.

[Socialist Workers Combine]

Sorry, my connection timed out.

Anyway, if young people are being sexualized in magazines and you think that inclined them to want to wear such clothing, I don’t approve of that.

But we should be realistic (I do not mean prey on them).

States that have sex Ed for instance have lower instances of pregnancy.

So why not include clothing in education.

I say if someone really wants to wear something let them wear it.
But Young people educated in sex are less likely to do it.
Repressing something, like gay porn for instance, makes it more desirable.
Gay porn is very high in Pakistan.

If you repress the sexy clothing you may actually contribute to them having sex.
But when I say do not repress I do not mean we should put them in sexy clothing in magazines.

[Socialist Workers Combine]

When I was a teen, I was told not to wear jewelry.
This was not good for my development as an LGBT person.
But Nothing influenced me to want to wear jewelry, other than having witnessed it at some point.
And not in any excessive way.

Clothing is part of self expression, and I think it should be developed.
Contrary to what one might think it is part of learning.
If I had really explored it, it may have contributed to my self development.

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Most adults will end up in jobs where they are bound to some dress code or another. One's youth should be a time to have fun, to experiment with self-expression. I can't think of a single good reason why a kid or teenager shouldn't be able to take advantage of the fact that they're young and not subject to the compromises one must make when they're in the job market. I honestly regret not having more fun with clothes when I was a teen.

[Steph88]

Most adults will end up in jobs where they are bound to some dress code or another. One's youth should be a time to have fun, to experiment with self-expression. I can't think of a single good reason why a kid or teenager shouldn't be able to take advantage of the fact that they're young and not subject to the compromises one must make when they're in the job market. I honestly regret not having more fun with clothes when I was a teen.

I agree with you 100%, but if snobs and dictators make decisions at school, freedom dies without being born. My sister went to school where the dress code was taken to the extreme. The girls were not allowed to dye their hair and makeup. Have you ever seen false eyelashes? (look here if you don't remember) This is just a game of dolls in my opinion. After the two teachers (women) forced the girls to take it off during the lesson and wash off the makeup, my mother decided to take the sister out of this madhouse. In my opinion, the extreme degree of the dress code is North Korea. I would not wish my child to live in such a dystopia.

[New haven america]

Because females wearing sexy clothing is really just females being females.

You should call these "females" what they are: minor children. You're not in school to make fashion statements, you're there to learn. I'm all for comfort in what children where to school but I'm against extending the sexualization of kids to what should be a place of learning.

>Implying adults at those schools aren't already responsible for that kind of stuff, even in areas with mandatory dress codes