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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:51 pm
by Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores
Cedoria wrote:
Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores wrote:How about an international embargo against Cuba by the western style democratic nations similar to one on South Africa under apartheid, how about international support for a western style democratic Cuba like in Venezuela, which is supporting Maduro for obvious reasons, first Venezuela then Cuba, add Nicaragua under Daniel Ortega too. Discuss you all.


Yeah, let's put sanctions similar to the ones on Apartheid South Africa on the country that played by far one of the biggest roles in ending the fascist Apartheid government, far more then the United States ever did.


Are you completely for real?

I am very serious and should their be another Cuban Balsero refugee crisis, on boats, rafts and anything that floats across shark infested waters, it will be considered an act of war by President Trump, with a naval blockade of Cuba, nothing goes in, nothing goes out until the Cuban regime falls from power from within and without.

Cubans are beginning to leave Cuba on boats, rafts, and anything that floats again, their are thousands of Cubans immigrants all over Central America, Mexico and some in South America who emigrate through third nations, it is being called the Cuban Caravan.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:54 pm
by Kowani
Novus America wrote:
Cedoria wrote:
Yeah, let's put sanctions similar to the ones on Apartheid South Africa on the country that played by far one of the biggest roles in ending the fascist Apartheid government, far more then the United States ever did.


Are you completely for real?


Just because they opposed the Apartheid government does not make them good. Bad people can occasionally do good things for bad reasons.

Case in point, Hitler’s anti-smoking ideas.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:49 am
by Cedoria
Novus America wrote:
Cedoria wrote:
Yeah, let's put sanctions similar to the ones on Apartheid South Africa on the country that played by far one of the biggest roles in ending the fascist Apartheid government, far more then the United States ever did.


Are you completely for real?


Just because they opposed the Apartheid government does not make them good. Bad people can occasionally do good things for bad reasons.



I never said they couldn't, only that the comparison was odious and foolish in the extreme, the two are nothing alike.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:51 am
by Cedoria
Kowani wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Just because they opposed the Apartheid government does not make them good. Bad people can occasionally do good things for bad reasons.

Case in point, Hitler’s anti-smoking ideas.


Indeed, and it would be moronic in the extreme to equate modern democratic systems with Hitler's Germany on the basis of them sharing that commonality.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:16 pm
by Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba
Cubans are beginning to leave Cuba on boats, rafts, and anything that floats again, their are thousands of Cubans immigrants all over Central America, Mexico and some in South America who emigrate through third nations, it is being called the Cuban Caravan.

Mexico has just deported 204 illegal Honduran immigrants, lol, Mexico has just deported 194 illegal Cuban immigrants in the last 3 weeks, under an illegal immigration agreement with Cuba, lol, the nation than complains about US deportations of illegal Mexicans, lol.

Sorry the link is in Spanish.
El Instituto Nacional de Migración (INM) informa que este día se realizó el retorno de 204 personas extranjeras a su país de origen; la mayoría eran familias que viajaban con menores de edad. Las más de 200 personas de nacionalidad hondureña tenían una condición de estancia irregular en México. El traslado vía aérea se realizó de Minatitlán, Veracruz, a San Pedro Sula, Honduras, en acuerdo con las autoridades del gobierno hondureño, cumpliendo con las normas y procedimientos migratorios vigentes.

Mexico deports 194 illegal Cubans in the last 3 weeks, sorry the link is in Spanish.
https://www.cuballama.com/blog/mexico-d ... 7-cubanos/

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:27 pm
by Liriena
I wanna congratulate the US for corroborating Maduro's claims of "economic warfare". Nice way of proving that he wasn't just being paranoid and peddling conspiracy theories.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:36 pm
by Slotted Floppies
Embargo and sanctions on attempted socialist states isn’t really that big a deal. It’s no different than taking antibiotics for an infection.

Its correcting a failure in human politics.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:48 pm
by Liriena
Slotted Floppies wrote:Its correcting a failure in human politics.

We're talking about neoconservatism/neoliberalism?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:54 pm
by Tokora
Yusseria wrote:Sounds justified. Venezuela honestly needs a military coup.

CIA, work your magic. Pinochet Part 2.

How does replacing a dictator with an even worse dictator help in any possible way?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:55 pm
by Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba
Liriena wrote:I wanna congratulate the US for corroborating Maduro's claims of "economic warfare". Nice way of proving that he wasn't just being paranoid and peddling conspiracy theories.

Interesting.

Personal Public Note: My commie nation wants to establish close friendly diplomatic relations with Liriena or one of your nations, we have the perfect Lady Ambassador reserved for your nation, send me a friendy TG to work out the details. GMS

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:56 pm
by Liriena
Yusseria wrote:Sounds justified. Venezuela honestly needs a military coup.

CIA, work your magic. Pinochet Part 2.

Here we have Yusseria advocating for an illegal military takeover to overthrow a (definitely flawed) democratically elected government to install a tyrannical regime similar to the one that raped women with dogs.

Very normal.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:14 pm
by Yusseria
Liriena wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Sounds justified. Venezuela honestly needs a military coup.

CIA, work your magic. Pinochet Part 2.

Here we have Yusseria advocating for an illegal military takeover to overthrow a (definitely flawed) democratically elected government to install a tyrannical regime similar to the one that raped women with dogs.

Very normal.

>democratically elected

Lmao nice alternative facts. Maduro was handpicked by Chavez to succeed him. The only democratically elected part of the Venezuelan government left is their legislature which Maduro stripped of all power.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:15 pm
by Yusseria
Tokora wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Sounds justified. Venezuela honestly needs a military coup.

CIA, work your magic. Pinochet Part 2.

How does replacing a dictator with an even worse dictator help in any possible way?

>even worse

Press X to doubt.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:16 pm
by Yusseria
Liriena wrote:I wanna congratulate the US for corroborating Maduro's claims of "economic warfare". Nice way of proving that he wasn't just being paranoid and peddling conspiracy theories.

Too bad it was purely Maduro's retarded policies that led to Venezuela's economy taking a shit.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:17 pm
by Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores
Yusseria wrote:
Tokora wrote:How does replacing a dictator with an even worse dictator help in any possible way?

>even worse

Press X to doubt.

'How does replacing a dictator with an even worse dictator help in any possible way?'
ahw, like Cuba from Batista too Fidel, Raúl and Diaz-Canel, lol.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:18 pm
by Gormwood
Yusseria wrote:
Liriena wrote:Here we have Yusseria advocating for an illegal military takeover to overthrow a (definitely flawed) democratically elected government to install a tyrannical regime similar to the one that raped women with dogs.

Very normal.

>democratically elected

Lmao nice alternative facts. Maduro was handpicked by Chavez to succeed him. The only democratically elected part of the Venezuelan government left is their legislature which Maduro stripped of all power.

Which totally justifies rape dogs and helicopter rides apparently.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:19 pm
by Yusseria
Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores wrote:
Yusseria wrote:>even worse

Press X to doubt.

'How does replacing a dictator with an even worse dictator help in any possible way?'
ahw, like Cuba from Batista too Fidel, Raúl and Diaz-Canel, lol.

Sort of, but without the communism.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:20 pm
by Yusseria
Gormwood wrote:
Yusseria wrote:>democratically elected

Lmao nice alternative facts. Maduro was handpicked by Chavez to succeed him. The only democratically elected part of the Venezuelan government left is their legislature which Maduro stripped of all power.

Which totally justifies rape dogs and helicopter rides apparently.

For the Chavistas who've plundered their own country and destroyed the lives of their people? Perhaps. Only after a military tribunal, of course.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:21 pm
by Liriena
Yusseria wrote:
Liriena wrote:Here we have Yusseria advocating for an illegal military takeover to overthrow a (definitely flawed) democratically elected government to install a tyrannical regime similar to the one that raped women with dogs.

Very normal.

>democratically elected

Lmao nice alternative facts. Maduro was handpicked by Chavez to succeed him. The only democratically elected part of the Venezuelan government left is their legislature which Maduro stripped of all power.

Maduro won the presidency through democratic elections twice. Nice lying by omission.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:22 pm
by Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores
Gormwood wrote:
Yusseria wrote:>democratically elected

Lmao nice alternative facts. Maduro was handpicked by Chavez to succeed him. The only democratically elected part of the Venezuelan government left is their legislature which Maduro stripped of all power.

Which totally justifies rape dogs and helicopter rides apparently.

I don't know what all this government rape dogs is all about.

Maduro was handpicked by Chavez to succeed him, Raúl was handpicked by Fidel to succeed him, Diaz-Canel was handpicked by Raúl to succeed him, and Raúl still rules.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:24 pm
by Yusseria
Liriena wrote:
Yusseria wrote:>democratically elected

Lmao nice alternative facts. Maduro was handpicked by Chavez to succeed him. The only democratically elected part of the Venezuelan government left is their legislature which Maduro stripped of all power.

Maduro won the presidency through democratic elections twice. Nice lying by omission.

Hm...
The electoral conduct has been described as being fraudulent,[100] with the call for an election by the pro-government Constituent National Assembly being declared unconstitutional in the first place, especially when the body moved the election date ahead from December to April.[101] The National Electoral Council (CNE), which is charged with overseeing elections in Venezuela, is also controlled by Maduro sympathizers.[101] The Bolivarian government has also been accused of excluding opposition candidates, handpicking candidates, voter intimidation, vote buying, and offering food to those who vote for President Maduro.[100][101] No recognized electoral observers were reported to be present for the elections.[101]

Why do you like authoritarian states so much? Why are you such an intellectual hypocrite?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:25 pm
by Gormwood
Yusseria wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Which totally justifies rape dogs and helicopter rides apparently.

For the Chavistas who've plundered their own country and destroyed the lives of their people? Perhaps. Only after a military tribunal, of course.

You didn't rule out rape dogs and helicopter rides. How classy.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:29 pm
by Yusseria
Gormwood wrote:
Yusseria wrote:For the Chavistas who've plundered their own country and destroyed the lives of their people? Perhaps. Only after a military tribunal, of course.

You didn't rule out rape dogs and helicopter rides. How classy.

I don't even know what rape dogs are, fam. As for helicopter rides, I'd say execution following military tribunal would be a justifiable punishment for their crimes.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:57 pm
by US-SSR
The new sanctions on Cuba will do nothing to change its behavior toward the Maduro regime or the situation in Venezuela. Cuba has withstood US sanctions for nearly 60 years and the government is still completely in power. This latest move seems to be "any stick to beat a dog" wrt the Maduro regime and Havana. If it provides one more applause line at the next Trump rally it will have fulfulled its purpose as far as the Colluder-in-Chief is concerned.

Meanwhile back in Caracas the sanctions so far in place are doing little to convince the security forces to defect from the Maduro side whilst impoverishing the Venezuelan people. If this administration has nothing more than fighting Maduro to the last Venezuelan baby then its impotence is about to be made plain with disastrous effects on US prestige and influence in its own backyard. As noted elsewhere all this is a result of going off half-cocked with no Plan B or regard for the real damage a narcissistic buffoon can do and is doing to the nation's interests overseas as well as domestically.

And Kim just shot off another missile. Are we sick of all the winning yet?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:05 pm
by Chernoslavia
Yusseria wrote:
Liriena wrote:Maduro won the presidency through democratic elections twice. Nice lying by omission.

Hm...
The electoral conduct has been described as being fraudulent,[100] with the call for an election by the pro-government Constituent National Assembly being declared unconstitutional in the first place, especially when the body moved the election date ahead from December to April.[101] The National Electoral Council (CNE), which is charged with overseeing elections in Venezuela, is also controlled by Maduro sympathizers.[101] The Bolivarian government has also been accused of excluding opposition candidates, handpicking candidates, voter intimidation, vote buying, and offering food to those who vote for President Maduro.[100][101] No recognized electoral observers were reported to be present for the elections.[101]

Why do you like authoritarian states so much? Why are you such an intellectual hypocrite?


I ask myself that every time I see his posts relating to such matters.