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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:31 pm
by The Black Party
Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
The Black Party wrote:Who's boots am I supposed to lick if fourteen year olds abolish the armed forces?

You can lick my feet.

a preferable alternative- I'm AnCap so it's not pedophilia

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:32 pm
by Socialist Workers Combine
The Black Party wrote:a preferable alternative- I'm AnCap so it's not pedophilia

I’m not a real fourteen year old unless we can clone me a new body.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:33 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki
Why isn’t there a third, joke option in that poll? I want, no, I demand a third option. Workers of the clown world unite!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:34 pm
by Aclion
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Why isn’t there a third, joke option in that poll? I want, no, I demand a third option. Workers of the clown world unite!

*honk honk*

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:34 pm
by Socialist Workers Combine
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Why isn’t there a third, joke option in that poll? I want, no, I demand a third option. Workers of the clown world unite!

What did you have in mind

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:35 pm
by The Black Party
Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
The Black Party wrote:a preferable alternative- I'm AnCap so it's not pedophilia

I’m not a real fourteen year old unless we can clone me a new body.

you cant sell me communism with that attitude

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:36 pm
by Lanorth
What. The. Fuck?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:36 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki
Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Why isn’t there a third, joke option in that poll? I want, no, I demand a third option. Workers of the clown world unite!

What did you have in mind


A Mass Effect type of scenario. Or toothpaste.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:37 pm
by Socialist Workers Combine
The Black Party wrote:you cant sell me communism with that attitude

Fine, I’m fourteen and you’re an ancap.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:37 pm
by Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners
Valentine Z wrote:Either way... there is one important thing I must say to the fellow AI advocators like me:

DO NOT GIVE AI THE RIGHTS TO THE MILITARY INSTALLATIONS. Shit, have you people see Skynet? That ain't the way to be.


In our defense, I must point out that, to date, in 100% of war crimes and other crimes against humanity, biological/natural intelligence is to blame.

I mean, this isn't to say that artificial intelligence will necessarily be better, but bio-intelligence is at least as worrisome, so worrying about Ai in particular seems strange.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:39 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki
Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:Either way... there is one important thing I must say to the fellow AI advocators like me:

DO NOT GIVE AI THE RIGHTS TO THE MILITARY INSTALLATIONS. Shit, have you people see Skynet? That ain't the way to be.


In our defense, I must point out that, to date, in 100% of war crimes and other crimes against humanity, biological/natural intelligence is to blame.

I mean, this isn't to say that artificial intelligence will necessarily be better, but bio-intelligence is at least as worrisome, so worrying about Ai in particular seems strange.


If a hypothetical AI were to survive and do so optimally, chances of it becoming hostile are high. It seems hostile creatures tend to fare better.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:41 pm
by Costa Fierro
Aw hell no, give me a UBI over work any day.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:42 pm
by The Black Party
Lanorth wrote:What. The. Fuck?

Which part is confusing, the robot overlords part or the inevitability of communism, the latter of which should not be confusing.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:43 pm
by Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners wrote:
In our defense, I must point out that, to date, in 100% of war crimes and other crimes against humanity, biological/natural intelligence is to blame.

I mean, this isn't to say that artificial intelligence will necessarily be better, but bio-intelligence is at least as worrisome, so worrying about Ai in particular seems strange.


If a hypothetical AI were to survive and do so optimally, chances of it becoming hostile are high. It seems hostile creatures tend to fare better.


While AI are certainly influenced by their makers, they need not necessarily evolve under evolutionary/survival conditions. Survival at all costs need not be their prime directive.

I mean, for inferior primates, sure...

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:43 pm
by Socialist Workers Combine
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:If a hypothetical AI were to survive and do so optimally, chances of it becoming hostile are high. It seems hostile creatures tend to fare better.

This couldn’t happen under world socialism as there would be no armaments.

World socialism is your only way to prevent robopocalypse.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:44 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki
Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
If a hypothetical AI were to survive and do so optimally, chances of it becoming hostile are high. It seems hostile creatures tend to fare better.


While AI are certainly influenced by their makers, they need not necessarily evolve under evolutionary/survival conditions. Survival at all costs need not be their prime directive.

I mean, for inferior primates, sure...


If we’re all they have to learn from, hostility will probably the way to go.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:45 pm
by Socialist Workers Combine
Costa Fierro wrote:Aw hell no, give me a UBI over work any day.

UBI is a stealth benefits reduction plan.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:45 pm
by The Black Party
Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:If a hypothetical AI were to survive and do so optimally, chances of it becoming hostile are high. It seems hostile creatures tend to fare better.

This couldn’t happen under world socialism as there would be no armaments.

World socialism is your only way to prevent robopocalypse.

Have you considered anarcho-primitivism?

I think you'll love it

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:48 pm
by Socialist Workers Combine
The Black Party wrote:Have you considered anarcho-primitivism?

I considered anarcho communism and rejected it because of the primitivism.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:48 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki
Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:If a hypothetical AI were to survive and do so optimally, chances of it becoming hostile are high. It seems hostile creatures tend to fare better.

This couldn’t happen under world socialism as there would be no armaments.

World socialism is your only way to prevent robopocalypse.


This is utopia and as nice as that sounds, I don’t credit any economic or political movement capable of giving that to us. If it’s manmade, it is not perfect and therefore, open to exploitation and abuses. And open to create resistance movements and instability. The perfect climate for anything to rise up.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:48 pm
by The Black Party
Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
The Black Party wrote:Have you considered anarcho-primitivism?

I considered anarcho communism and rejected it because of the primitivism.

You're missing out on the best life has to offer

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:50 pm
by Costa Fierro
Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:Aw hell no, give me a UBI over work any day.

UBI is a stealth benefits reduction plan.


In addition to benefits.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:51 pm
by Socialist Workers Combine
The Black Party wrote:You're missing out on the best life has to offer

Can the primitivists clone me a younger body?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:52 pm
by Socialist Workers Combine
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:This is utopia and as nice as that sounds, I don’t credit any economic or political movement capable of giving that to us. If it’s manmade, it is not perfect and therefore, open to exploitation and abuses. And open to create resistance movements and instability. The perfect climate for anything to rise up.

I don’t see why the armed workers would tolerate resistance movements.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:53 pm
by The Black Party
Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
The Black Party wrote:You're missing out on the best life has to offer

Can the primitivists clone me a younger body?

dont be silly, only Aesthetic Nazbolism can ever come close to outwitting the God of Time and reversing the affects of old age.