Robot overlords and the inevitability of communism

by **The Black Party** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:31 pm

Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
The Black Party wrote:Who's boots am I supposed to lick if fourteen year olds abolish the armed forces?

You can lick my feet.

a preferable alternative- I'm AnCap so it's not pedophilia

by **Socialist Workers Combine** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:32 pm

The Black Party wrote:a preferable alternative- I'm AnCap so it's not pedophilia

I’m not a real fourteen year old unless we can clone me a new body.

by **Nanatsu no Tsuki** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:33 pm

Why isn’t there a third, joke option in that poll? I want, no, I demand a third option. Workers of the clown world unite!

by **Aclion** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:34 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Why isn’t there a third, joke option in that poll? I want, no, I demand a third option. Workers of the clown world unite!

*honk honk*

by **Socialist Workers Combine** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:34 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Why isn’t there a third, joke option in that poll? I want, no, I demand a third option. Workers of the clown world unite!

What did you have in mind

by **The Black Party** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:35 pm

Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
The Black Party wrote:a preferable alternative- I'm AnCap so it's not pedophilia

I’m not a real fourteen year old unless we can clone me a new body.

you cant sell me communism with that attitude

by **Lanorth** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:36 pm

What. The. Fuck?

by **Nanatsu no Tsuki** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:36 pm

Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Why isn’t there a third, joke option in that poll? I want, no, I demand a third option. Workers of the clown world unite!

What did you have in mind

A Mass Effect type of scenario. Or toothpaste.

by **Socialist Workers Combine** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:37 pm

The Black Party wrote:you cant sell me communism with that attitude

Fine, I’m fourteen and you’re an ancap.

by **Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:37 pm

Valentine Z wrote:Either way... there is one important thing I must say to the fellow AI advocators like me:

DO NOT GIVE AI THE RIGHTS TO THE MILITARY INSTALLATIONS. Shit, have you people see Skynet? That ain't the way to be.

In our defense, I must point out that, to date, in 100% of war crimes and other crimes against humanity, biological/natural intelligence is to blame.

I mean, this isn't to say that artificial intelligence will necessarily be better, but bio-intelligence is at least as worrisome, so worrying about Ai in particular seems strange.

by **Nanatsu no Tsuki** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:39 pm

Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:Either way... there is one important thing I must say to the fellow AI advocators like me:

DO NOT GIVE AI THE RIGHTS TO THE MILITARY INSTALLATIONS. Shit, have you people see Skynet? That ain't the way to be.

In our defense, I must point out that, to date, in 100% of war crimes and other crimes against humanity, biological/natural intelligence is to blame.

I mean, this isn't to say that artificial intelligence will necessarily be better, but bio-intelligence is at least as worrisome, so worrying about Ai in particular seems strange.

If a hypothetical AI were to survive and do so optimally, chances of it becoming hostile are high. It seems hostile creatures tend to fare better.

by **Costa Fierro** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:41 pm

Aw hell no, give me a UBI over work any day.

by **The Black Party** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:42 pm

Lanorth wrote:What. The. Fuck?

Which part is confusing, the robot overlords part or the inevitability of communism, the latter of which should not be confusing.

by **Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:43 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners wrote:
In our defense, I must point out that, to date, in 100% of war crimes and other crimes against humanity, biological/natural intelligence is to blame.

I mean, this isn't to say that artificial intelligence will necessarily be better, but bio-intelligence is at least as worrisome, so worrying about Ai in particular seems strange.

If a hypothetical AI were to survive and do so optimally, chances of it becoming hostile are high. It seems hostile creatures tend to fare better.

While AI are certainly influenced by their makers, they need not necessarily evolve under evolutionary/survival conditions. Survival at all costs need not be their prime directive.

I mean, for inferior primates, sure...

by **Socialist Workers Combine** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:43 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:If a hypothetical AI were to survive and do so optimally, chances of it becoming hostile are high. It seems hostile creatures tend to fare better.

This couldn’t happen under world socialism as there would be no armaments.

World socialism is your only way to prevent robopocalypse.

by **Nanatsu no Tsuki** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:44 pm

Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
If a hypothetical AI were to survive and do so optimally, chances of it becoming hostile are high. It seems hostile creatures tend to fare better.

While AI are certainly influenced by their makers, they need not necessarily evolve under evolutionary/survival conditions. Survival at all costs need not be their prime directive.

I mean, for inferior primates, sure...

If we’re all they have to learn from, hostility will probably the way to go.

by **Socialist Workers Combine** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:45 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:Aw hell no, give me a UBI over work any day.

UBI is a stealth benefits reduction plan.

by **The Black Party** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:45 pm

Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:If a hypothetical AI were to survive and do so optimally, chances of it becoming hostile are high. It seems hostile creatures tend to fare better.

This couldn’t happen under world socialism as there would be no armaments.

World socialism is your only way to prevent robopocalypse.

Have you considered anarcho-primitivism?

I think you'll love it

by **Socialist Workers Combine** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:48 pm

The Black Party wrote:Have you considered anarcho-primitivism?

I considered anarcho communism and rejected it because of the primitivism.

by **Nanatsu no Tsuki** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:48 pm

Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:If a hypothetical AI were to survive and do so optimally, chances of it becoming hostile are high. It seems hostile creatures tend to fare better.

This couldn’t happen under world socialism as there would be no armaments.

World socialism is your only way to prevent robopocalypse.

This is utopia and as nice as that sounds, I don’t credit any economic or political movement capable of giving that to us. If it’s manmade, it is not perfect and therefore, open to exploitation and abuses. And open to create resistance movements and instability. The perfect climate for anything to rise up.

by **The Black Party** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:48 pm

Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
The Black Party wrote:Have you considered anarcho-primitivism?

I considered anarcho communism and rejected it because of the primitivism.

You're missing out on the best life has to offer

by **Costa Fierro** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:50 pm

Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:Aw hell no, give me a UBI over work any day.

UBI is a stealth benefits reduction plan.

In addition to benefits.

by **Socialist Workers Combine** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:51 pm

The Black Party wrote:You're missing out on the best life has to offer

Can the primitivists clone me a younger body?

by **Socialist Workers Combine** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:52 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:This is utopia and as nice as that sounds, I don’t credit any economic or political movement capable of giving that to us. If it’s manmade, it is not perfect and therefore, open to exploitation and abuses. And open to create resistance movements and instability. The perfect climate for anything to rise up.

I don’t see why the armed workers would tolerate resistance movements.

by **The Black Party** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:53 pm

Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
The Black Party wrote:You're missing out on the best life has to offer

Can the primitivists clone me a younger body?

dont be silly, only Aesthetic Nazbolism can ever come close to outwitting the God of Time and reversing the affects of old age.

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