Wawakanatote wrote:Imagine a socialist society where there are no religious people or rightists! Yeah, that sounds like a utopia to me!
bro you unironically support Deng and Xi Jinping I seriously doubt you want a socialist society
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by Technocratic Uganda » Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:58 pm
Wawakanatote wrote:Imagine a socialist society where there are no religious people or rightists! Yeah, that sounds like a utopia to me!
by Wawakanatote » Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:06 pm
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by Multiversal Venn-Copard » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:13 pm
Ghost Land wrote:Slotted Floppies wrote:
A universe where this doesn’t exist or I get to blow it up every day.
Honestly, I'd like to blow up a society like that too. As a technophobe, that would basically be one of my fears realised.
Also, to me, utopia implies constant progress toward a better society for future generations, not stagnation at some hypothetical "perfect" point. The latter would become extremely boring fast without anything to discuss or overcome; a bit of realism (some may say adversity, but it doesn't have to be negative) adds character and variety to day-to-day life, hence why in my utopia, people still work 40-hour weeks (though not 60-100 hour weeks), among other examples. Utopia is more about "always improving" rather than "stuck at a set point".
by Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:16 pm
Multiversal Venn-Copard wrote:Humanity's dismantled the solar system and built a Matrioshka Brain around the Sun. Most of the population has voluntarily uploaded themselves into an endless, perfect series of virtual worlds, where scarcity and conflict are absent unless all involved consent. People can retreat to their own private sanctums if they wish, or communicate at trillions of times faster than real time with every human who's ever been uploaded. Animals have been uplifted to sentience and invited to join the great simulated realm, too, because why the hell not.
Meanwhile, the superintelligent AIs running the Brain are using its excess computational power to crack the entropy problem and ensure the survival, happiness, and prosperity of an infinite number of minds for the rest of eternity. They're sending probes out to other stars, and humans who aren't uploaded will augment themselves for radiation resistance and immortality, then tag along to see what new planets they can find. These other stars are being harvested for additional energy, used as power sources for additional brains... and the cycle continues, because one brain might not be enough to figure out real paradise and we need every single chance we can get.
by Hatterleigh » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:28 pm
National News Network: William Botrum entering last days in office - President-elect Rood preparing or term
Overview of Hatterleigh | William Botrum, Hatterleigh's President | Hatterlese Embassy Program | I don't use NS stats.by Hatterleigh » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:35 pm
Slotted Floppies wrote:Multiversal Venn-Copard wrote:Humanity's dismantled the solar system and built a Matrioshka Brain around the Sun. Most of the population has voluntarily uploaded themselves into an endless, perfect series of virtual worlds, where scarcity and conflict are absent unless all involved consent. People can retreat to their own private sanctums if they wish, or communicate at trillions of times faster than real time with every human who's ever been uploaded. Animals have been uplifted to sentience and invited to join the great simulated realm, too, because why the hell not.
Meanwhile, the superintelligent AIs running the Brain are using its excess computational power to crack the entropy problem and ensure the survival, happiness, and prosperity of an infinite number of minds for the rest of eternity. They're sending probes out to other stars, and humans who aren't uploaded will augment themselves for radiation resistance and immortality, then tag along to see what new planets they can find. These other stars are being harvested for additional energy, used as power sources for additional brains... and the cycle continues, because one brain might not be enough to figure out real paradise and we need every single chance we can get.
A universe where this doesn’t exist or I get to blow it up every day.
National News Network: William Botrum entering last days in office - President-elect Rood preparing or term
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by Hanafuridake » Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:02 am
Suriyanakhon's alt, finally found my old account's password李贽 wrote:There is nothing difficult about becoming a sage, and nothing false about transcending the world of appearances.
by Xmara » Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:05 am
Hatterleigh wrote:Being a cave man or nomad on a beautiful open plain. Chasing hunt through the shallows with my tribesmen while the sun rises, sitting by the fire when it sets, and looking at the cosmos when the moon rises
by Saiwania » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:07 am
by Neanderthaland » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:12 am
Hatterleigh wrote:Being a cave man or nomad on a beautiful open plain. Chasing hunt through the shallows with my tribesmen while the sun rises, sitting by the fire when it sets, and looking at the cosmos when the moon rises
by Ghost Land » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:24 pm
Multiversal Venn-Copard wrote:Ghost Land wrote:
Honestly, I'd like to blow up a society like that too. As a technophobe, that would basically be one of my fears realised.
Also, to me, utopia implies constant progress toward a better society for future generations, not stagnation at some hypothetical "perfect" point. The latter would become extremely boring fast without anything to discuss or overcome; a bit of realism (some may say adversity, but it doesn't have to be negative) adds character and variety to day-to-day life, hence why in my utopia, people still work 40-hour weeks (though not 60-100 hour weeks), among other examples. Utopia is more about "always improving" rather than "stuck at a set point".
Which is why computational capacity needs to keep improving and new minds need to keep getting brought onboard to share ideas and help figure things out. And who's to say that the worlds of your choice can't involve a bit of challenge? If you wish to boot up a sim where technology hasn't advanced past 20th century levels and you have to work a job and get sick and grow old and die, that'll be your prerogative. The entire point of my response to a prompt about a utopia is that nobody should have to. I do not think any world in which bad things happen despite people not wanting them to could possibly count as a utopia; the exact details of what does happen is up to those involved.
(Also, advocating the destruction of a world of people who want to be happy without harming others is really, really horrifying.)
But hey, what do I know about utopias, I'm some idiot utilitarian or something.
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:OP's utopia is ok. But I don't like any kind of dictator. Power should come from the people, allways.
I'd rather have an idiot leader with checks and balances in place so that idiot can't fuck up too much with the ability to vote them out then a good benevolent dictator that I can't vote out.
by Xmara » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:33 pm
Saiwania wrote:The 21st century version of Nazi Germany, the 4th Reich. Nazism with better technology equals a more fearsome Wehrmacht with potentially even more amazing super weapons. If the Allied powers have an even more difficult time fighting the Axis, that is the kind of war I want to be seeing.
by Xmara » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:34 pm
Neutraligon wrote:No diseases, no poverty, no hunger, no death due to natural disasters, no lack of resources, no wars, no discrimination, no corruption, easy access to education for all, equality of opportunity, no unwanted pregnancy, instead of dying, people jut go to sleep when they no longer want to interact with the world, no pollution.
by LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:38 pm
Saiwania wrote:The 21st century version of Nazi Germany, the 4th Reich. Nazism with better technology equals a more fearsome Wehrmacht with potentially even more amazing super weapons. If the Allied powers have an even more difficult time fighting the Axis, that is the kind of war I want to be seeing.
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