Massive Fire at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Why don't you answer the question?

It is an active Roman Catholic Cathedral. So... I don't know who owns it... McDonalds maybe?

Incredible. All of that effort into belittling someone and calling them stupid and you are completely incorrect yourself.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

It is state-owned.

Thank you.

[Greater Loegria]

It is an active Roman Catholic Cathedral. So... I don't know who owns it... McDonalds maybe?

Incredible. All of that effort into belittling someone and calling them stupid and you are completely incorrect yourself.

I was aware of the arrangement between the Archdiocese and the French state thank you very much. And I didn't actually call them stupid either.. so, jog on mate.

[The Blaatschapen]

Why don't you answer the question?

It is an active Roman Catholic Cathedral. So... I don't know who owns it... McDonalds maybe?

They would have coloured the arches to gold.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Incredible. All of that effort into belittling someone and calling them stupid and you are completely incorrect yourself.

I was aware of the arrangement between the Archdiocese and the French state thank you very much. And I didn't actually call them stupid either.. so, jog on mate.

Of course you were, that's why you implied it is incredibly obviously owned solely by the church in your post.

And no of course you didnt, you just found all the possible ways to say it in a roundabout fashion towards someone who asked a very valid question. Whatever makes you feel better I suppose.

[Zyris]

I hope they fully restore it as it was and not add some modern monstrosity to this building, like have been done to other buildings.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

I hope they fully restore it as it was and not add some modern monstrosity to this building, like have been done to other buildings.

Nah, they should be able to fix it up pretty much exactly how it was. It will take a while I'm sure, but they're not going to redesign anything. If they can rebuild the Dresden Frauenkirche essentially from scratch after 50 some years, they can rectify fire damage to Notre Dame.

[Alvecia]

Heard about this last night.
Now that the fire has died down, the damage doesn’t seem to be as bad as some predicted fortunately.
The two towers and rose window were saved, as were all the artwork.

[New Sukberia]

I hope they fully restore it as it was and not add some modern monstrosity to this building, like have been done to other buildings.

Nah, they should be able to fix it up pretty much exactly how it was. It will take a while I'm sure, but they're not going to redesign anything. If they can rebuild the Dresden Frauenkirche essentially from scratch after 50 some years, they can rectify fire damage to Notre Dame.

Not just some fire damage. BFMTV has just said that most of the roof is gone, as well as several of the glass vitrols are gone too.

Besides, being rebuilt doesn't erase the fact that it was 856 years old, and survived all the Revolutions, and 2 World Wars.

[Vojelneit]

I hope they fully restore it as it was and not add some modern monstrosity to this building, like have been done to other buildings.

Nah, they should be able to fix it up pretty much exactly how it was. It will take a while I'm sure, but they're not going to redesign anything. If they can rebuild the Dresden Frauenkirche essentially from scratch after 50 some years, they can rectify fire damage to Notre Dame.

Might take a few decades, according to what I saw on the news.

[Alvecia]

Nah, they should be able to fix it up pretty much exactly how it was. It will take a while I'm sure, but they're not going to redesign anything. If they can rebuild the Dresden Frauenkirche essentially from scratch after 50 some years, they can rectify fire damage to Notre Dame.

Not just some fire damage. BFMTV has just said that most of the roof is gone, as well as several of the glass vitrols are gone too.

Besides, being rebuilt doesn't erase the fact that it was 856 years old, and survived all the Revolutions, and 2 World Wars.

It’s survived this fire as well.

[Neanderthaland]

I hope they fully restore it as it was and not add some modern monstrosity to this building, like have been done to other buildings.

Actually the spire that collapsed is a "modern monstrosity." It was constructed in the 19th Century.

[Bombadil]

I hope they fully restore it as it was and not add some modern monstrosity to this building, like have been done to other buildings.

Actually the spire that collapsed is a "modern monstrosity." It was constructed in the 19th Century.

Bloody neanderthals, always griping about modernity being anything from 40, 000 years ago.

[Neanderthaland]

Actually the spire that collapsed is a "modern monstrosity." It was constructed in the 19th Century.

Bloody neanderthals, always griping about modernity being anything from 40, 000 years ago.

Well considering the original spire was built at least 500 years earlier... it's pretty modern.

[Bombadil]

Bloody neanderthals, always griping about modernity being anything from 40, 000 years ago.

Well considering the original spire was built at least 500 years earlier... it's pretty modern.

The statue of St Thomas addition was essentially a statue of one of the architects.

The new spire was completed, taller and more strongly built to withstand the weather; it was decorated with statues of the apostles, and the face of Saint Thomas bore a noticeable resemblance to Viollet-le-Duc.

I'm a thorough NSG master of Notre Dame now, ie, acting as if one knew everything about a subject despite having only ever googled it for the first time less than 24hrs ago. I guess international incidents have their uses in educating people on things.

[Samudera Darussalam]

I'm a thorough NSG master of Notre Dame now, ie, acting as if one knew everything about a subject despite having only ever googled it for the first time less than 24hrs ago. I guess international incidents have their uses in educating people on things.

Can't agree more. Sometimes, our curiosity about things only rise when something like this happens. I wonder why.

[The Grims]

Incredible. All of that effort into belittling someone and calling them stupid and you are completely incorrect yourself.

I was aware of the arrangement between the Archdiocese and the French state thank you very much. And I didn't actually call them stupid either.. so, jog on mate.

They asked which of the two owned it - state or church.
A very reasonable question, albeit one that a 10 second google could have answered.

[The Blaatschapen]

Well considering the original spire was built at least 500 years earlier... it's pretty modern.

The statue of St Thomas addition was essentially a statue of one of the architects.

The new spire was completed, taller and more strongly built to withstand the weather; it was decorated with statues of the apostles, and the face of Saint Thomas bore a noticeable resemblance to Viollet-le-Duc.

I'm a thorough NSG master of Notre Dame now, ie, acting as if one knew everything about a subject despite having only ever googled it for the first time less than 24hrs ago. I guess international incidents have their uses in educating people on things.

To be fair, NSG master does not mean much

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Nah, they should be able to fix it up pretty much exactly how it was. It will take a while I'm sure, but they're not going to redesign anything. If they can rebuild the Dresden Frauenkirche essentially from scratch after 50 some years, they can rectify fire damage to Notre Dame.

Not just some fire damage. BFMTV has just said that most of the roof is gone, as well as several of the glass vitrols are gone too.

Besides, being rebuilt doesn't erase the fact that it was 856 years old, and survived all the Revolutions, and 2 World Wars.

Cologne cathedral was directly hit numerous times by bombs in world war 2 and is of comparable age, albeit a hundred or so years more recent. Point is, if that can be completely restored after what it went through, Notre Dame can be rebuilt from a fire, which is excellent news.

[Bombadil]

I'm a thorough NSG master of Notre Dame now, ie, acting as if one knew everything about a subject despite having only ever googled it for the first time less than 24hrs ago. I guess international incidents have their uses in educating people on things.

Can't agree more. Sometimes, our curiosity about things only rise when something like this happens. I wonder why.

An ex-girlfriend has a spare apartment just near Notre Dame at Le Marais and whenever I go to Europe I try to find a couple days either side to stay there, so I do know the area pretty well, just not to the level of detail I've discovered today.

I guess it's pretty obvious why we look these things up after incidents. Other things I've looked up related..

1. Wiki on Notre Dame obviously
2. Wiki on the architects
3. Wiki on the buddhist monuments destroyed by the Taliban in Afghanistan in relation to a comment about being emotionally affected by the destruction of something unrelated to your religion
4. The coronation of Henry VI
5. Why the fuck France went from 1789 to ordaining an Emperor some 20 years later
6. Some of the haunts I tend to walk around when in Paris - Place de la Bastille, Pompidou, Pere Lachaise cemetary
7. Some phenomenon on Japanese needed therapy when visiting Paris as it's so different from their expectations.

It's good I have lengthy downtime periods at work given I need await approvals on projects.

[Grenartia]

Can't agree more. Sometimes, our curiosity about things only rise when something like this happens. I wonder why.

An ex-girlfriend has a spare apartment just near Notre Dame at Le Marais and whenever I go to Europe I try to find a couple days either side to stay there, so I do know the area pretty well, just not to the level of detail I've discovered today.

I guess it's pretty obvious why we look these things up after incidents. Other things I've looked up related..

1. Wiki on Notre Dame obviously
2. Wiki on the architects
3. Wiki on the buddhist monuments destroyed by the Taliban in Afghanistan in relation to a comment about being emotionally affected by the destruction of something unrelated to your religion
4. The coronation of Henry VI
5. Why the fuck France went from 1789 to ordaining an Emperor some 20 years later
6. Some of the haunts I tend to walk around when in Paris - Place de la Bastille, Pompidou, Pere Lachaise cemetary
7. Some phenomenon on Japanese needed therapy when visiting Paris as it's so different from their expectations.

It's good I have lengthy downtime periods at work given I need await approvals on projects.

[Bombadil]

An ex-girlfriend has a spare apartment just near Notre Dame at Le Marais and whenever I go to Europe I try to find a couple days either side to stay there, so I do know the area pretty well, just not to the level of detail I've discovered today.

I guess it's pretty obvious why we look these things up after incidents. Other things I've looked up related..

1. Wiki on Notre Dame obviously
2. Wiki on the architects
3. Wiki on the buddhist monuments destroyed by the Taliban in Afghanistan in relation to a comment about being emotionally affected by the destruction of something unrelated to your religion
4. The coronation of Henry VI
5. Why the fuck France went from 1789 to ordaining an Emperor some 20 years later
6. Some of the haunts I tend to walk around when in Paris - Place de la Bastille, Pompidou, Pere Lachaise cemetary
7. Some phenomenon on Japanese needed therapy when visiting Paris as it's so different from their expectations.

It's good I have lengthy downtime periods at work given I need await approvals on projects.

Basically.

[New haven america]

An ex-girlfriend has a spare apartment just near Notre Dame at Le Marais and whenever I go to Europe I try to find a couple days either side to stay there, so I do know the area pretty well, just not to the level of detail I've discovered today.

I guess it's pretty obvious why we look these things up after incidents. Other things I've looked up related..

1. Wiki on Notre Dame obviously
2. Wiki on the architects
3. Wiki on the buddhist monuments destroyed by the Taliban in Afghanistan in relation to a comment about being emotionally affected by the destruction of something unrelated to your religion
4. The coronation of Henry VI
5. Why the fuck France went from 1789 to ordaining an Emperor some 20 years later
6. Some of the haunts I tend to walk around when in Paris - Place de la Bastille, Pompidou, Pere Lachaise cemetary
7. Some phenomenon on Japanese needed therapy when visiting Paris as it's so different from their expectations.

It's good I have lengthy downtime periods at work given I need await approvals on projects.

What is a spark plug anyway?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

So, status update.
Fire's out as of this morning. Vault's been penetrated in one place, there's some debris before the altar but everything's otherwise intact apparently, including all the windows beneath the coverage of the vault. The major problem for restoration that I can see as of now is the hole in the 13th century vault.

[Vassenor]

So, status update.
Fire's out as of this morning. Vault's been penetrated in one place, there's some debris before the altar but everything's otherwise intact apparently, including all the windows beneath the coverage of the vault. The major problem for restoration that I can see as of now is the hole in the 13th century vault.

So it's pretty much just a straight roof replacement?