Massive Fire at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris

[Farnhamia]

No, it hasn't.

So if the place has been so well taken care of and never broken, why did someone have to write an entire book to get the French government to fix it in the 1800's? Did the French Revolution's sacking of the place or the 1400's destruction of many prominent statues happen also not happen?

Hugo wrote the book to make a buck, not to spark a renovation of the cathedral. The renovation came about because the book was very successful and drew people's attention to the cathedral, which they found to be rundown. The 19th century renovation was essentially a massive cleaning job, with the addition of the spire. I don't see anything about the place being sacked during the Revolution, just that the mob mistook some statues of biblical kings for French kings and chopped off their heads. The Huguenots also damaged from statues back in the 16th century.

[Bombadil]

I really hope no terrorist(s) shoots up the Cathedral anytime soon.

Weird comment..

[The Alma Mater]

I'd imagine the contractors who were working at the time of the fire must be fearing for their lives. I would not be surprised if they are lynched.

Why lynch them and not the people who are now "oh so upset about the tragedy" but refused to produce their wallets when they were asked for money to renovate the cathedral before?

[The Black Party]

I really hope no terrorist(s) shoots up the Cathedral anytime soon.

Weird comment..

I sincerely hope that no individuals with foul intentions metaphorically add "fuel to the fire" by intiating another mass shooting in or around the Cathedral. I'm worried someone or some organization would use this moment to take advantage of a "weak target" by bringing more terror to Paris.

[Kubra]

Weird comment..

I sincerely hope that no individuals with foul intentions metaphorically add "fuel to the fire" by intiating another mass shooting in or around the Cathedral. I'm worried someone or some organization would use this moment to take advantage of a "weak target" by bringing more terror to Paris.

A building going up doesn't make a city easier to bomb, bud.

[Bear Stearns]

I'd imagine the contractors who were working at the time of the fire must be fearing for their lives. I would not be surprised if they are lynched.

Why lynch them and not the people who are now "oh so upset about the tragedy" but refused to produce their wallets when they were asked for money to renovate the cathedral before?

Because they are not a fault. If a specific contractor (or group of contractors) is named as the reason for the negligence that caused the fire, people will be out for blood.

[Heloin]

So if the place has been so well taken care of and never broken, why did someone have to write an entire book to get the French government to fix it in the 1800's? Did the French Revolution's sacking of the place or the 1400's destruction of many prominent statues happen also not happen?

Hugo wrote the book to make a buck, not to spark a renovation of the cathedral. The renovation came about because the book was very successful and drew people's attention to the cathedral, which they found to be rundown. The 19th century renovation was essentially a massive cleaning job, with the addition of the spire. I don't see anything about the place being sacked during the Revolution, just that the mob mistook some statues of biblical kings for French kings and chopped off their heads. The Huguenots also damaged from statues back in the 16th century.

A little from column A and a little from column B. Good old Hugo's primary reason for writing anything is always to get money but the reason for choosing Notre Dame as the setting and main theme for the book was also inspired by a want to save a major national landmark that looked like it was a decade or two from demolition.

[Saiwania]

The Amber room in Russia was completely dismantled and stolen by Nazi Germany and lost to history, yet a near perfect replica was made to replace it. I'd think that if there is enough information of this cathedral's exterior and interior, that it won't be too difficult to recreate it. These old buildings don't last forever anyways and need to be replaced periodically as wear and tear dictates.

[The Black Party]

I sincerely hope that no individuals with foul intentions metaphorically add "fuel to the fire" by intiating another mass shooting in or around the Cathedral. I'm worried someone or some organization would use this moment to take advantage of a "weak target" by bringing more terror to Paris.

A building going up doesn't make a city easier to bomb, bud.

ok

i never said it did

but thank you anyways

[The Alma Mater]

Why lynch them and not the people who are now "oh so upset about the tragedy" but refused to produce their wallets when they were asked for money to renovate the cathedral before?

Because they are not a fault. If a specific contractor (or group of contractors) is named as the reason for the negligence that caused the fire, people will be out for blood.

Oh please. Have a shoddy budget, get shoddy work. Pay peanuts, get monkeys.
It is not the fault of the monkeys.

[San Lumen]

The Amber room in Russia was completely dismantled and stolen by Nazi Germany and lost to history, yet a near perfect replica was made to replace it. I'd think that if there is enough information of this cathedral's exterior and interior, that it won't be too difficult to recreate it. These old buildings don't last forever anyways and need to be replaced periodically as wear and tear dictates.

No one was ever going to replace Notre Dame. its stood for 8 centuries and it will be rebuilt. Its a symbol of France and to Catholics worldwide

[Kubra]

A building going up doesn't make a city easier to bomb, bud.

ok

i never said it did

but thank you anyways

"I'm worried someone or some organization would use this moment to take advantage of a 'weak target' by bringing more terror to Paris."

[Aram]

The Amber room in Russia was completely dismantled and stolen by Nazi Germany and lost to history, yet a near perfect replica was made to replace it. I'd think that if there is enough information of this cathedral's exterior and interior, that it won't be too difficult to recreate it. These old buildings don't last forever anyways and need to be replaced periodically as wear and tear dictates.

No one was ever going to replace Notre Dame. its stood for 8 centuries and it will be rebuilt. Its a symbol of France and to Catholics worldwide

It’s not just a symbol of France and Catholicism, it’s a European and Christian cultural symbol. I hope it is rebuilt. Some history and culture cost more than money.

I also hope and pray that the rumours of deliberate fire starting are just that - rumours.

[San Lumen]

No one was ever going to replace Notre Dame. its stood for 8 centuries and it will be rebuilt. Its a symbol of France and to Catholics worldwide

It’s not just a symbol of France and Catholicism, it’s a European and Christian cultural symbol. I hope it is rebuilt. Some history and culture cost more than money.

I also hope and pray that the rumours of deliberate fire starting are just that - rumours.

It will be and there is no evidence of it being a deliberate act.

[Arlenton]

Hopefully as much as possible can be saved. That's a crazy amount of history being destroyed.

[Heloin]

It’s not just a symbol of France and Catholicism, it’s a European and Christian cultural symbol. I hope it is rebuilt. Some history and culture cost more than money.

I also hope and pray that the rumours of deliberate fire starting are just that - rumours.

It will be and there is no evidence of it being a deliberate act.

To me at least, everyone who keeps bringing up their hope that this wasn't deliberate reads as them really hoping this was.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

No one was ever going to replace Notre Dame. its stood for 8 centuries and it will be rebuilt. Its a symbol of France and to Catholics worldwide

It’s not just a symbol of France and Catholicism, it’s a European and Christian cultural symbol. I hope it is rebuilt. Some history and culture cost more than money.

I also hope and pray that the rumours of deliberate fire starting are just that - rumours.

I thought it was confirmed it was some sort of construction accident?

[San Lumen]

Hopefully as much as possible can be saved. That's a crazy amount of history being destroyed.

The interior appears to be largely intact at this point. There will have to be assessment of the structure but firefighters are saying the cathedral appears to be stable

[Skylus]

Hopefully as much as possible can be saved. That's a crazy amount of history being destroyed.

The interior appears to be largely intact at this point. There will have to be assessment of the structure but firefighters are saying the cathedral appears to be stable

Good.

[Hirota]

Imagine if the structure in Mecca were to burn down.

Yeah, I made that comparison myself in my head, I'd be pretty depressed from that. But no one outside of the Ummah would actually be terribly sad and "in tears" over that, just like almost no one outside of the Catholic community and French community would be terribly sad and "in tears" over this, unless they've been there. Maybe I'm being too narrow?

This I will say one thing: seeing the flames and the spire fall was pretty heavy.

As an atheist, I was sad at the loss of the Nohmul pyramid in Belize. I was sad at the bombing of the tomb of Jonah and Nimrud, at the loss of Sufi shrines in Timbuktu.

You don't have to be religious to appreciate the loss of history, so to answer your questions - no, people outside of the Ummah would be sad at the loss (although maybe not for the reasons you would be sad), and yes, you are too "narrow."

[Western Vale Confederacy]

I get how this can be a sad thing to see but I don't get it. I mean yes Notre Dame is an important historical site but....it's a building tho. Like, people are saying that - ok yeah I just saw it on the news...ok, just learned that it's a very important place of worship (which is obvious, it's a cathedral). Huh, I guess I can see why Catholic and French would be really saddened by this and "in tears". But why everyone else? I can understand sympathy but mourning like you were there or something? Idk, maybe I'm missing something.

Imagine if the structure in Mecca were to burn down.

I mean, the Kaaba HAS suffered many reverses in its long history, from fire to collapse to its Black Stone being stolen by the Qarmatians.

[New haven america]

I get how this can be a sad thing to see but I don't get it. I mean yes Notre Dame is an important historical site but....it's a building tho. Like, people are saying that - ok yeah I just saw it on the news...ok, just learned that it's a very important place of worship (which is obvious, it's a cathedral). Huh, I guess I can see why Catholic and French would be really saddened by this and "in tears". But why everyone else? I can understand sympathy but mourning like you were there or something? Idk, maybe I'm missing something.

Imagine if the structure in Mecca were to burn down.

Uh... Saudi Arabia's already destroying a lot of Mosques and ancient (Both of Muslim and non-Muslim) sights in Mecca in order to make way for parking lots, freeways, skyscrapers, and an infrastructure that can support the millions of visitors.

[Aram]

It will be and there is no evidence of it being a deliberate act.

To me at least, everyone who keeps bringing up their hope that this wasn't deliberate reads as them really hoping this was.

To me, it’s people hoping it wasn’t deliberate. Your answer makes me think you want it to be. It doesn’t actually, I just wanted to point of the vicious cycle of your ‘logic’.

I went to sleep last night reading/hearing rumours. I’m just stating I don’t want them to be true. I’m not saying I hope it was.

[Aram]

It’s not just a symbol of France and Catholicism, it’s a European and Christian cultural symbol. I hope it is rebuilt. Some history and culture cost more than money.

I also hope and pray that the rumours of deliberate fire starting are just that - rumours.

I thought it was confirmed it was some sort of construction accident?

I mean it’s not right for me to say “oh good” considering the size and scope of the fire, but at least it wasn’t just an accident. They’ll rebuild it. They have to.

[The Grims]

I thought it was confirmed it was some sort of construction accident?

I mean it’s not right for me to say “oh good” considering the size and scope of the fire, but at least it wasn’t just an accident. They’ll rebuild it. They have to.

And where money was short before it will now be pouring in.