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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:39 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I don't know if anyone here knows this, probably some do, but the medieval roof that burned, was called ''the forest'' because it is said that it took a literal forest to build it.

And now trees all over France are nervous.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:40 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I don't know if anyone here knows this, probably some do, but the medieval roof that burned, was called ''the forest'' because it is said that it took a literal forest to build it.

And now trees all over France are nervous.


Call the Ents!

Sadly the timber in that roof was Medieval and I think part of the first iteration of the church. Better check that out.

Edit: At least 12th century oak.
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Postby Gordfield » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:40 pm

And there’s a significant bit of culture I now cant go see
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:43 pm

Gordfield wrote:And there’s a significant bit of culture I now cant go see
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The building is fine, they just have to rebuild the roof.
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Postby Yusseria » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:43 pm

The Black Party wrote:https://twitter.com/brookeawindsor/status/1117940714715930624

Oooh. That's sad.

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:43 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:At least one rose window is still in one piece. A bit ashen maybe but still intact.

That’s the main one. Thank god that’s still there
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:45 pm

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Gordfield wrote:And there’s a significant bit of culture I now cant go see
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The building is fine, they just have to rebuild the roof.

I think it's a bit more than that. The spire is gone, at least two of the big rose windows are gone and the other is damaged. Who knows what damage all that water did, too?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:45 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:At least one rose window is still in one piece. A bit ashen maybe but still intact.

That’s the main one. Thank god that’s still there


I hope this doesn't sound bad but I'd love to be part of the team that cleans and curates the window. Gods, that thing is beautiful.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:47 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:That’s the main one. Thank god that’s still there


I hope this doesn't sound bad but I'd love to be part of the team that cleans and curates the window. Gods, that thing is beautiful.

I'd like the same thing, but I'd be perpetually afraid of breaking something...

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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:47 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
The building is fine, they just have to rebuild the roof.

I think it's a bit more than that. The spire is gone, at least two of the big rose windows are gone and the other is damaged. Who knows what damage all that water did, too?

As far as I knew we had only heard about one of the windows. Mind sourcing for the other 2?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:47 pm

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I hope this doesn't sound bad but I'd love to be part of the team that cleans and curates the window. Gods, that thing is beautiful.

I'd like the same thing, but I'd be perpetually afraid of breaking something...


Then let us do that, help with the restoration in dreams. :p
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:53 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I think it's a bit more than that. The spire is gone, at least two of the big rose windows are gone and the other is damaged. Who knows what damage all that water did, too?

As far as I knew we had only heard about one of the windows. Mind sourcing for the other 2?

Well, I don't know. I had heard that earlier in the day, probably here. I'll happy if I'm wrong and only one window was lost.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:54 pm

Duhon wrote:So how much would a rebuild of the Notre Dame cost? Has anyone got a hold of the figures?

I think it’s a damn the cost moment
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:56 pm

Billionaire Francois Pinault pledged $113 million towards the reconstruction.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:56 pm

This is really terrible, and no doubt many invaluable pieces were lost. However, we should have no doubt that France can and will restore Notre Dame. This is not the first cathedral to have caught fire, and many of those have been restored. This one will be too.

We should all be thankful that no one died.
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Postby Valentine Z » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:58 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
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Ah-ha! Someone else has read about the SoT problem as well! :P

Yeah, I thought the same way. Though if the history has been an indicator of the problem, I say that at this point, we probably don't even have the original Notre Dame? I mean, before this fire, it has been damaged and restored for a few times in the past such as WW1 and WW2, so at this point, can we say the originals more or less don't exist anymore?

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On another topic, I'm glad that most of the artifacts survived, and that at the very least, it can be rebuilt and salvageable. I still want to visit the Notre Dame during my lifetime. ^^

Over time, some of the decorations and art were damaged. The fabric of the cathedral was given a restoration between the 1840s and 1860s because it had become very worn because of the passage of time. It suffered no damage in World War 1 and only very minor damage in World War 2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dam ... the_church


Ahh, I see! I stand corrected, then! :blush:

Seems like either something is holding Notre Dame to NOT fall, or that both the Frenchmen and the world agreed that Notre Dame should be saved no matter what. Either way, I'm glad that there are going to be reparation efforts. ^^ I hope it all goes well!
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Postby Stormwrath » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:59 pm

I was shocked waking up to news of this. This is very tragic.

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Postby The Black Party » Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:00 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:This is really terrible, and no doubt many invaluable pieces were lost. However, we should have no doubt that France can and will restore Notre Dame. This is not the first cathedral to have caught fire, and many of those have been restored. This one will be too.

We should all be thankful that no one died.

There was only one casualty today, and that was the Pride of the French.

and that firefigher. God With Him.
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:01 pm

Valentine Z wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Over time, some of the decorations and art were damaged. The fabric of the cathedral was given a restoration between the 1840s and 1860s because it had become very worn because of the passage of time. It suffered no damage in World War 1 and only very minor damage in World War 2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dam ... the_church


Ahh, I see! I stand corrected, then! :blush:

Seems like either something is holding Notre Dame to NOT fall, or that both the Frenchmen and the world agreed that Notre Dame should be saved no matter what. Either way, I'm glad that there are going to be reparation efforts. ^^ I hope it all goes well!

Amazing that at one point it was close to being demolished.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:02 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:
Ahh, I see! I stand corrected, then! :blush:

Seems like either something is holding Notre Dame to NOT fall, or that both the Frenchmen and the world agreed that Notre Dame should be saved no matter what. Either way, I'm glad that there are going to be reparation efforts. ^^ I hope it all goes well!

Amazing that at one point it was close to being demolished.

I'm sorry but WHAT
Why would the French demolish an architectural masterpiece like that?

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Postby Neanderthaland » Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:02 pm

The Black Party wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:This is really terrible, and no doubt many invaluable pieces were lost. However, we should have no doubt that France can and will restore Notre Dame. This is not the first cathedral to have caught fire, and many of those have been restored. This one will be too.

We should all be thankful that no one died.

There was only one casualty today, and that was the Pride of the French.

and that firefigher. God With Him.

Did one of the firefighters die? I stand corrected. My condolences to them and theirs.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:03 pm

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Amazing that at one point it was close to being demolished.

I'm sorry but WHAT
Why would the French demolish an architectural masterpiece like that?

I think it was during the Revolution IIRC
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:03 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
The Black Party wrote:There was only one casualty today, and that was the Pride of the French.

and that firefigher. God With Him.

Did one of the firefighters die? I stand corrected. My condolences to them and theirs.

He’s in critical condition in the hospital
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:03 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
The Black Party wrote:There was only one casualty today, and that was the Pride of the French.

and that firefigher. God With Him.

Did one of the firefighters die? I stand corrected. My condolences to them and theirs.


No, not dead but he's in critical condition.
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