Massive Fire at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris

[The Black Party]

Yes, that's why I don't want to speculate until the investigation is carried out. However, the blaze was caused by two fires.

Alright, so don't rethink the Paris Police's judgement on the case of arson.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Especially the destruction of countless objects and paintings inside.

As a history buff, this is a tragic loss. A great cathedral was destroyed, and many priceless works of art and relics have been completely obliterated along with it.

The core of the building including its interiors still stands, along with some of its glazed windows. There is a giant hole in the 13th century vault however...

[The Black Party]

Again, at the time the French gov't had ruled out arson for the time being. We can't say anything about what caused the fires because an investigation is pending.

We can't say anything about what did or did not cause the fires but we can rule out arson and therefore are saying something about what did or did not cause the fires. Good.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Yes, that's why I don't want to speculate until the investigation is carried out. However, the blaze was caused by two fires.

Alright, so don't rethink the Paris Police's judgement on the case of arson.

Until an investigation is carried out, speculation is useless. But now we know, at least, that the blaze was due to 2 fires: one that started at the roof top and one that started on the north bell tower.

[The Black Party]

Until an investigation is carried out, speculation is useless. But now we know, at least, that the blaze was due to 2 fires: one that started at the roof top and one that started on the north bell tower.

Both of which were accidental.

[Farnhamia]

The core of the building including its interiors still stands, along with some of its glazed windows. There is a giant hole in the 13th century vault however...

So many priceless artifacts...

Shouldn't that, theoretically, also cause a little bit of a dip in the economy due to their vast net worth?

No, why would you think that?

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

Again, at the time the French gov't had ruled out arson for the time being. We can't say anything about what caused the fires because an investigation is pending.

We can't say anything about what did or did not cause the fires but we can rule out arson and therefore are saying something about what did or did not cause the fires. Good.

If you have nothing to add, please take your drivel elsewhere.

[Neutraligon]

The core of the building including its interiors still stands, along with some of its glazed windows. There is a giant hole in the 13th century vault however...

So many priceless artifacts...

Shouldn't that, theoretically, also cause a little bit of a dip in the economy due to their vast net worth?

Many had already been removed, likely due to the reconstruction.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Until an investigation is carried out, speculation is useless. But now we know, at least, that the blaze was due to 2 fires: one that started at the roof top and one that started on the north bell tower.

Both of which were accidental.

That's quite possible. The cathedral was undergoing restoration and renovation work. But I don't know anything more than that. We should wait until an investigation is completed.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

The core of the building including its interiors still stands, along with some of its glazed windows. There is a giant hole in the 13th century vault however...

So many priceless artifacts...

Shouldn't that, theoretically, also cause a little bit of a dip in the economy due to their vast net worth?

I repeat the interiors were not significantly damaged. But the 13th century ceiling has acquired a hole in it due to a 750 ton spire falling on it.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

So many priceless artifacts...

Shouldn't that, theoretically, also cause a little bit of a dip in the economy due to their vast net worth?

I repeat the interiors were not significantly damaged. But the 13th century ceiling has acquired a hole in it due to a 750 ton spire falling on it.

And there were quite a few of the works of art that were not inside when the fire started. Like some statues which had been taken down to undergo cleaning.

[La Paz de Los Ricos]

It's not pedantry, the point is that this isn't the first time Notre Dame has been destroyed. It will recover.

It will never be the same, however

This is a thought I've had since I heard about it. It's like the Ship of Thesues problem, the one that goes "if you have one thing and over time change out all the components, is that thing still fundamentally the same thing, or is it new and something else?" (I know this analogy is pretty terrible at relating to the Notre Dame fire, but it's what you get shush)

My point is, all of the stuff destroyed in the fire will never come back, all the bricks and wood and materials that got burned will never be a part of Notre Dame again, and even if they do rebuild the cathedral, it'll just be recreations of the parts of Notre Dame that were lost.

So, is it still Notre Dame, or is it just sections of Notre Dame that survived the fire held together by recreations of what didn't survive?

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

So many priceless artifacts...

Shouldn't that, theoretically, also cause a little bit of a dip in the economy due to their vast net worth?

No, why would you think that?

Also, according to TET (and the places TET was sourcing) at least, most of the artifacts got out OK, including the Crown of Thorns.

[The Black Party]

If you have nothing to add, please take your drivel elsewhere.

Ironic.

That's quite possible. The cathedral was undergoing restoration and renovation work. But I don't know anything more than that. We should wait until an investigation is completed.

We can say with certainty that both fires were accidental.

So many priceless artifacts...

Shouldn't that, theoretically, also cause a little bit of a dip in the economy due to their vast net worth?

No, why would you think that?

Think they would've sold those artifacts anytime soon? Maybe to the Vatican?

[Senkaku]

I repeat the interiors were not significantly damaged. But the 13th century ceiling has acquired a hole in it due to a 750 ton spire falling on it.

And there were quite a few of the works of art that were not inside when the fire started. Like some statues which had been taken down to undergo cleaning.

They also evacuated a shitload of stuff once the fire started lol

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

If you have nothing to add, please take your drivel elsewhere.

Ironic.

That's quite possible. The cathedral was undergoing restoration and renovation work. But I don't know anything more than that. We should wait until an investigation is completed.

We can say with certainty that both fires were accidental.

No, why would you think that?

Think they would've sold those artifacts anytime soon? Maybe to the Vatican?

For the last time, we can't say anything until an investigation is carried and concluded. Am I not typing in English?

[Shrillland]

I repeat the interiors were not significantly damaged. But the 13th century ceiling has acquired a hole in it due to a 750 ton spire falling on it.

And there were quite a few of the works of art that were not inside when the fire started. Like some statues which had been taken down to undergo cleaning.

In fact, almost none of the artworks or relics were even inside, and just about all of them are accounted for. Culture and heritage survived by the stratacornea of the skin of their teeth thanks to the heroes of the Paris Fire Brigade.

[Athonuna]

So many priceless artifacts...

Shouldn't that, theoretically, also cause a little bit of a dip in the economy due to their vast net worth?

I repeat the interiors were not significantly damaged. But the 13th century ceiling has acquired a hole in it due to a 750 ton spire falling on it.

it sounds overall like many parts of the tower will make it through alright. Thankfully, the parts that were damaged seems like they can be replaced. It's still devastating to see something so beautiful and famous on fire, however.

[The Black Party]

For the last time, we can't say anything until an investigation is carried and concluded. Am I not typing in English?

The French Government ruled out arson. Arson is the act of deliberately setting fire to property. Therefore, any investigation result will conclude in accidental causes.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

And there were quite a few of the works of art that were not inside when the fire started. Like some statues which had been taken down to undergo cleaning.

In fact, almost none of the artworks or relics were even inside, and just about all of them are accounted for. Culture and heritage survived by the stratacornea of the skin of their teeth thanks to the heroes of the Paris Fire Brigade.

Indeed. The firefighter brigade are true heroes. They were scrambling in to rescue things and remove them out of the blaze.

[New haven america]

The core of the building including its interiors still stands, along with some of its glazed windows. There is a giant hole in the 13th century vault however...

So many priceless artifacts...

Shouldn't that, theoretically, also cause a little bit of a dip in the economy due to their vast net worth?

A. Pretty much all of them are intact and doing just fine
B. No. Unless France was planning to sell them, not really.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Looks like things got extremely lucky that the spire decided to fall forwards instead of backwards. Because backwards would've meant falling on the altar and destroying the sculptures surrounding it.

[Valrifell]

So many priceless artifacts...

Shouldn't that, theoretically, also cause a little bit of a dip in the economy due to their vast net worth?

A. Pretty much all of them are intact and doing just fine
B. No. Unless France was planning to sell them, not really.

Things that aren't on the market don't really have a value, which is why said things are referred to as "priceless"

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

For the last time, we can't say anything until an investigation is carried and concluded. Am I not typing in English?

The French Government ruled out arson. Arson is the act of deliberately setting fire to property. Therefore, any investigation result will conclude in accidental causes.

Can someone please explain to this person that the gov't has ruled out arson for the time being and that we don't know what happened until an investigation is carried out. Jesus H. Craig. I guess I'm typing in Sanskrit.

[The Black Party]

The French Government ruled out arson. Arson is the act of deliberately setting fire to property. Therefore, any investigation result will conclude in accidental causes.

Can someone please explain to this person that the gov't has ruled out arson for the time being and that we don't know what happened until an investigation is carried out. Jesus H. Craig. I guess I'm typing in Sanskrit.

How do you "rule out" something "for the time being". If it's "for the time being", it's inconclusive. That's just as good as saying "We're ruling out faulty electrical wiring for the time being". Something that is "ruled out" is definitive. Therefore, it is definitive that the fire was accidental and not caused by arson. We don't know what caused the fires, but we definitively know that both fires were accidental.