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Postby The Black Party » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:34 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Ok... so... the French gov't is now saying that two different fires broke out in two different parts of the cathedral... Two accidental fires?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/europe/not ... es-n994646

The trustworthy French Government ruled out Arson before the fire was even contained so I don't see why you're hesistent to believe that two accidental fires was not the case here.
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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Ok... so... the French gov't is now saying that two different fires broke out in two different parts of the cathedral... Two accidental fires?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/europe/not ... es-n994646

Okay... now can we speculate? The odds of two different fires starting at the same time in the same building seems quite remote.
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Postby New haven america » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:35 pm

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New haven america wrote:It's original form got destroyed in the 1300's...

The Semi-Original form

That got broken down in the 1800's...
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Postby Athonuna » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:35 pm

This is terribly saddening. The beautiful architecture of Renaissance Europe and countless works of art could have been lost. It almost seems strange that these things can happen to famous landmarks. I hope for minimal damage.
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Postby The Black Party » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:36 pm

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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Ok... so... the French gov't is now saying that two different fires broke out in two different parts of the cathedral... Two accidental fires?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/europe/not ... es-n994646

Okay... now can we speculate? The odds of two different fires starting at the same time in the same building seems quite remote.

No, speculation is bad. The French Government ruled out Arson. The fire was accidental, the Paris Police said so.
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Marxist Germany wrote:The Semi-Original form

That got broken down in the 1800's...

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Postby Martune » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:36 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Ok... so... the French gov't is now saying that two different fires broke out in two different parts of the cathedral... Two accidental fires?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/europe/not ... es-n994646

Okay... now can we speculate? The odds of two different fires starting at the same time in the same building seems quite remote.

Oh nooo. Speculation isn't permitted.

But yeah, the two fires thing seems unlikely unless they were both caused by the same catalyst.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:37 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Ok... so... the French gov't is now saying that two different fires broke out in two different parts of the cathedral... Two accidental fires?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/europe/not ... es-n994646

Okay... now can we speculate? The odds of two different fires starting at the same time in the same building seems quite remote.


I don't know what to think, to be frank. One fire started near the roof top while a second fire started in the north bell tower. From the link:

Michel Picaud, from the Friends of Notre Dame organization responsible for the renovation efforts at the cathedral, told NBC News that, to his knowledge, the church's organ and stained glass windows were not damaged.

"The entire roof is fully destroyed," Picaud said. "The fire started up near the roof top while another fire started in the north bell tower."


For those worried about the pipe organ, it seems to be ok.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:37 pm

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New haven america wrote:That got broken down in the 1800's...

Stop this pedantry immediately

It's not pedantry, the point is that this isn't the first time Notre Dame has been destroyed. It will recover.

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Postby Yusseria » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:37 pm

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Yusseria wrote:Okay... now can we speculate? The odds of two different fires starting at the same time in the same building seems quite remote.

No, speculation is bad. The French Government ruled out Arson. The fire was accidental, the Paris Police said so.

They ruled out arson before it was even contained.

Is this sarcasm?
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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:38 pm

Athonuna wrote:This is terribly saddening. The beautiful architecture of Renaissance Europe and countless works of art could have been lost. It almost seems strange that these things can happen to famous landmarks. I hope for minimal damage.

The spire collapsed and countless works of art and other pieces are damaged beyond repair, but the cathedral should be able to be fixed structurally after the mess is cleaned up. It's a huge loss nonetheless...
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:38 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Ok... so... the French gov't is now saying that two different fires broke out in two different parts of the cathedral... Two accidental fires?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/europe/not ... es-n994646

Okay... now can we speculate? The odds of two different fires starting at the same time in the same building seems quite remote.

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Postby Marxist Germany » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:38 pm

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EA Corporations wrote:Stop this pedantry immediately

It's not pedantry, the point is that this isn't the first time Notre Dame has been destroyed. It will recover.

It will never be the same, however
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Postby The Black Party » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:39 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I don't know what to think, to be frank. One fire started near the roof top while a second fire started in the north bell tower.

It's pretty damn easy to know what to think. The French Government said there was no foul play before the fire was even contained, so I don't see why you're re-thinking your earlier decision. It was obviously two accidental fires or two electrical bursts.
Martune wrote:Oh nooo. Speculation isn't permitted.

But yeah, the two fires thing seems unlikely unless they were both caused by the same catalyst.

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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:39 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Ok... so... the French gov't is now saying that two different fires broke out in two different parts of the cathedral... Two accidental fires?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/europe/not ... es-n994646

Okay... now can we speculate? The odds of two different fires starting at the same time in the same building seems quite remote.

I would think that during reconstruction and preservation is the time when the building is most likely to catch fire since that is when hot tools, like welding equipment is used.
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Postby The Black Party » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:40 pm

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The Black Party wrote:No, speculation is bad. The French Government ruled out Arson. The fire was accidental, the Paris Police said so.

They ruled out arson before it was even contained.

Is this sarcasm?

Are you saying you don't trust the French Government? It sounds like you want this to be arson to push your own political agenda.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:40 pm

Yusseria wrote:
The Black Party wrote:No, speculation is bad. The French Government ruled out Arson. The fire was accidental, the Paris Police said so.

They ruled out arson before it was even contained.

Is this sarcasm?


No. The French gov't had ruled out arson before for the time being. I don't want to speculate as the investigation hasn't started but we're talking about two fires in two different parts of the church. I mean, it's possible that it was accidental but I really don't know what to think.
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Postby Athonuna » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:41 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Okay... now can we speculate? The odds of two different fires starting at the same time in the same building seems quite remote.


I don't know what to think, to be frank. One fire started near the roof top while a second fire started in the north bell tower. From the link:

Michel Picaud, from the Friends of Notre Dame organization responsible for the renovation efforts at the cathedral, told NBC News that, to his knowledge, the church's organ and stained glass windows were not damaged.

"The entire roof is fully destroyed," Picaud said. "The fire started up near the roof top while another fire started in the north bell tower."


For those worried about the pipe organ, it seems to be ok.

Quite honestly, a closer look should be done once the literal and metaphorical smoke clears, but I do believe the fire was an accident.
About the pipe organ, however, I'm very happy to hear it's most likely alright. There's so much history in that cathedral that can't be replaced by simple replicas...
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Postby The Black Party » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:41 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:No. The French gov't had ruled out arson before for the time being. I don't want to speculate as the investigation hasn't started but we're talking about two fires in two different parts of the church. I mean, it's possible that it was accidental but I really don't know what to think.

No, ma'am, It was accidental and/or an electrical problem because the French Government completely ruled out arson before the fire was even contained, and therefore any suggestion otherwise would be speculation and that's illegal.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:41 pm

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Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:It's not pedantry, the point is that this isn't the first time Notre Dame has been destroyed. It will recover.

It will never be the same, however

Especially the destruction of countless objects and paintings inside.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:42 pm

Athonuna wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I don't know what to think, to be frank. One fire started near the roof top while a second fire started in the north bell tower. From the link:



For those worried about the pipe organ, it seems to be ok.

Quite honestly, a closer look should be done once the literal and metaphorical smoke clears, but I do believe the fire was an accident.
About the pipe organ, however, I'm very happy to hear it's most likely alright. There's so much history in that cathedral that can't be replaced by simple replicas...


Yes, that's why I don't want to speculate until the investigation is carried out. However, the blaze was caused by two fires.
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Postby New haven america » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:43 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:The spire collapsed and countless works of art and other pieces are damaged beyond repair, but the cathedral should be able to be fixed structurally after the mess is cleaned up. It's a huge loss nonetheless...

Can't we just have like... one good day?

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Athonuna wrote:This is terribly saddening. The beautiful architecture of Renaissance Europe and countless works of art could have been lost. It almost seems strange that these things can happen to famous landmarks. I hope for minimal damage.

The spire collapsed and countless works of art and other pieces are damaged beyond repair, but the cathedral should be able to be fixed structurally after the mess is cleaned up. It's a huge loss nonetheless...

Spire collapsed onto the vault which... made a hole in the 13th century structure... :/
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Postby Athonuna » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:44 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Marxist Germany wrote:It will never be the same, however

Especially the destruction of countless objects and paintings inside.

As a history buff, this is a tragic loss. A great cathedral was destroyed, and many priceless works of art and relics have been completely obliterated along with it.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:44 pm

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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:No. The French gov't had ruled out arson before for the time being. I don't want to speculate as the investigation hasn't started but we're talking about two fires in two different parts of the church. I mean, it's possible that it was accidental but I really don't know what to think.

No, ma'am, It was accidental and/or an electrical problem because the French Government completely ruled out arson before the fire was even contained, and therefore any suggestion otherwise would be speculation and that's illegal.


Again, at the time the French gov't had ruled out arson for the time being. We can't say anything about what caused the fires because an investigation is pending.
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