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Postby Genivaria » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:07 am

I would be willing to put money towards restoring the cathedral.

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:07 am

Dresderstan wrote:Where are the fire brigades, why aren't they evacuating the area so the firefighters can do their job?

The entire Île de la Cité has been evacuated and you can't see the fire brigades because they won't let people with cameras in close enough, I suspect.
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Postby Scottish Socialists » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:08 am

Can’t believe that such an icon has collapsed, it’s like 9/11 all over again, minus the terrorism.
Shocking.
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:09 am

What has been built can be rebuilt given the money and will to do so.

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Postby Nea Byzantia » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:09 am

Scottish Socialists wrote:Can’t believe that such an icon has collapsed, it’s like 9/11 all over again, minus the terrorism.
Shocking.

Depends on whether or not the fire was intentional.

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:10 am

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Postby Scottish Socialists » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:10 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Scottish Socialists wrote:Can’t believe that such an icon has collapsed, it’s like 9/11 all over again, minus the terrorism.
Shocking.

Depends on whether or not the fire was intentional.

We’ll find out soon enough.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:10 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Scottish Socialists wrote:Can’t believe that such an icon has collapsed, it’s like 9/11 all over again, minus the terrorism.
Shocking.

Depends on whether or not the fire was intentional.

No point in jumping to conclusions, certainly not before the fire is out and an investigation can be conducted.
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Postby Greater Moldavi » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:10 am

I first visited Notre Dame in 1998. I've visited again several times over the years (most recently in 2016) and have always been awed by the rose windows (now gone), the spire (gone), and the flying buttresses (currently under threat).

I have always held mixed feelings on Viollet-le-Duc's restoration works but the draw of Notre Dame as a symbol for the city and the country is undeniable.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:10 am

Scottish Socialists wrote:Can’t believe that such an icon has collapsed, it’s like 9/11 all over again, minus the terrorism.
Shocking.


Could be terrorism. As you indicate, it is an excellent symbolic target.

But since they were renovating it my money is on sloppy builders.
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Postby Kannap » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:11 am

Heart-wrenching as I watch the news, hard to watch history burning like this.
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Postby Andsed » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:11 am

Genivaria wrote:I would be willing to put money towards restoring the cathedral.

Same but can it even be restored at this point?
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Postby Vallermoore » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:11 am

When I first heard of it on fire I assumed a jihadist had set the fire, something that is most likely unfair. A dropped cigarette is far more likely to be the cause.

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:12 am

Genivaria wrote:What has been built can be rebuilt given the money and will to do so.

Oh absolutely. I visited the Bauhaus a couple of years ago; it got bombed to shit during the war, but you can't even tell now, because the reconstruction work was so good. It's guaranteed that Notre Dame will rise again too.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:12 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:Depends on whether or not the fire was intentional.

No point in jumping to conclusions, certainly not before the fire is out and an investigation can be conducted.


The restoration was privately funded and privately contracted in a manner to ensure value for money.
Pretty much all the conclusion we need.

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Postby Genivaria » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:12 am

Andsed wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I would be willing to put money towards restoring the cathedral.

Same but can it even be restored at this point?

We'll only know when the fires are out.

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Postby Heloin » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:14 am

Andsed wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I would be willing to put money towards restoring the cathedral.

Same but can it even be restored at this point?

The building can be restored or even rebuilt no matter how bad it gets. What is housed inside can not.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:14 am

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So horrible to watch the massive fire at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris. Perhaps flying water tankers could be used to put it out. Must act quickly!


Yes. Dumping huge amounts of water on a structure like this. Awesome idea.
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Postby Dresderstan » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:15 am

Genivaria wrote:What has been built can be rebuilt given the money and will to do so.

Even if it could be rebuilt, all the artwork and the historic relics that have burned and I'd argue the similar French Gothic style cannot be replicated and replaced. Seeing a piece of history, one that gets millions of visitors per year is one of the most heartbreaking things to see.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:15 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Genivaria wrote:What has been built can be rebuilt given the money and will to do so.

Oh absolutely. I visited the Bauhaus a couple of years ago; it got bombed to shit during the war, but you can't even tell now, because the reconstruction work was so good. It's guaranteed that Notre Dame will rise again too.


I could be mistaken but the issue with Notre Dame is that there aren’t, iirc, masons who are capable to work in the styles the cathedral is made. I’m sure that can be taught but I don’t know.
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Postby Andsed » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:16 am

Genivaria wrote:
Andsed wrote:Same but can it even be restored at this point?

We'll only know when the fires are out.

True. Still it will probably cost hundreds of millions to restore.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:16 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Oh absolutely. I visited the Bauhaus a couple of years ago; it got bombed to shit during the war, but you can't even tell now, because the reconstruction work was so good. It's guaranteed that Notre Dame will rise again too.


I could be mistaken but the issue with Notre Dame is that there aren’t, iirc, masons who are capable to work in the styles the cathedral is made. I’m sure that can be taught but I don’t know.


It can be taught, or at least imitated. But it will cost a lot. They won't be free masons :(
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Postby Dresderstan » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:16 am

The irony is that this fire could not have happened at a worse time, just after Palm Sunday yesterday, and before Easter. :(

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:17 am

The Alma Mater wrote:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1117844987293487104

So horrible to watch the massive fire at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris. Perhaps flying water tankers could be used to put it out. Must act quickly!


Yes. Dumping huge amounts of water on a structure like this. Awesome idea.

I mean Trumps not a artist, but we do know a important political figure who was a artist, surely he knows what to do, Ill just go call his hometown in Germany and get his advice... wait...
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