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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:34 pm

Baoshing wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Modern construction equipment (the tools in question in this instance) requires electricity and involves friction which generates heat as they are being used, so yes.


Actually, no since I didn't ask a question.
And it could very well have been a cigarette, nevertheless. Or in fact, even been a combination of the both.

You....did ask a question...namely, if hot tools are required in construction, in this case of the Notre Dame cathedral, which I responded with yes as the modern tools required to do so run on electricity and generate friction. Your original point was that it couldn't be tools because they wouldn't use tools that are not around flammable materials, which is not true. It could have been a cigarette. But that was not the original point you were trying to make.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:43 pm

It's a sad fire. Though, at least the rose windows, great pieces of medieval srarchitecture, are still intact.
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Postby Hatterleigh » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:51 pm

That is one of the buildings I would have wanted to see if I ever went to Europe, one of the greatest pieces of architecture in all of Europe. Hopefully it is rebuilt well and in good time
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Postby Hatterleigh » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:55 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:But some gods are older than 13.8 billion years

Arent they retired by now? You would think a God could get a better deal.

God doesn't need to retire, he can do everything without an ounce of effort
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:56 pm

Hatterleigh wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Arent they retired by now? You would think a God could get a better deal.

God doesn't need to retire, he can do everything without an ounce of effort


So why did he need to rest on the 7th day? Things obviously weren't perfect.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:00 pm

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Hatterleigh wrote:God doesn't need to retire, he can do everything without an ounce of effort


So why did he need to rest on the 7th day? Things obviously weren't perfect.


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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:01 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
So why did he need to rest on the 7th day? Things obviously weren't perfect.


Paperwork pileup.


Fucking HR. They ruin everything. :(

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:03 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Paperwork pileup.


Fucking HR. They ruin everything. :(


I’d agree with you but I don’t want to get a call from HR. :/
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:05 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Fucking HR. They ruin everything. :(


I’d agree with you but I don’t want to get a call from HR. :/


Eh, just blame it on health and safety. :)

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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:34 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Fucking HR. They ruin everything. :(


I’d agree with you but I don’t want to get a call from HR. :/

You know the hr people are very nice, they baked me a sweet potato pie. I cant believe gods hr dept. Is worse.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:37 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I’d agree with you but I don’t want to get a call from HR. :/

You know the hr people are very nice, they baked me a sweet potato pie. I cant believe gods hr dept. Is worse.


They once killed everyone in a flood who hadn't followed their rules.....

Not sure a pie would make up for that.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:37 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:When your frame of reference is eternity, the total lifespan of human civilization is barely an eyeblink. Guess what, we don't have any 13.8 billion year old immortals telling us what is and isn't important for us to fix.

Depends if you believe in a God or not.

Allah SWT isn't immortal, He's eternal.
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And Muslims. Then again we don't dispute it among ourselves so ;)
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Postby Bombadil » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:10 pm

Some of the conspiracy theories going around..

Good ol' Alex Jones thinks it might be a terrorist attack but we'll never know because the liberal media will cover it up
Apparently Michelle Obama was in town a few days before and this is very fishy according to QAnon
A fake FOX tweet saying Omar tweeted 'they reap what they sow' as a response to the fire
A lot of stuff about Notre Dame being the symbol of Judeo-Christian civilisation and therefore it must be a terrorist attack

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Postby Trayvik » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:13 pm

This is a sad tragedy. I hope no major conspiracies will spawn from tragedy.
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Postby Talvezout » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:14 pm

Trayvik wrote:This is a sad tragedy. I hope no major conspiracies will spawn from tragedy.
Bombadil wrote:Some of the conspiracy theories going around..

Good ol' Alex Jones thinks it might be a terrorist attack but we'll never know because the liberal media will cover it up
Apparently Michelle Obama was in town a few days before and this is very fishy according to QAnon
A fake FOX tweet saying Omar tweeted 'they reap what they sow' as a response to the fire
A lot of stuff about Notre Dame being the symbol of Judeo-Christian civilisation and therefore it must be a terrorist attack

Ah internet..


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Postby Pope Joan » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:15 pm

Fires happen all too often during remodeling.

Many private homeowners can attest to this.

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Postby Bombadil » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:18 pm

Pope Joan wrote:Fires happen all too often during remodeling.

Many private homeowners can attest to this.

No conspiracy is required


Not required but certainly made..

One video of the flames, with 36,000 views, has had the audio edited to suggest that Islamic observers were crying “Allahu Akbar” (“God is great”), in celebration. Another zooms in on a figure apparently wearing a hi-vis vest and hard hat, captioning it as a “Muslim at Notre Dame”.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:19 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:Fires happen all too often during remodeling.

Many private homeowners can attest to this.

No conspiracy is required


Not required but certainly made..

One video of the flames, with 36,000 views, has had the audio edited to suggest that Islamic observers were crying “Allahu Akbar” (“God is great”), in celebration. Another zooms in on a figure apparently wearing a hi-vis vest and hard hat, captioning it as a “Muslim at Notre Dame”.

its really sad that many on the right believe this stuff like gospel

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Postby Kowani » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:19 pm

Bombadil wrote:Some of the conspiracy theories going around..

Good ol' Alex Jones thinks it might be a terrorist attack but we'll never know because the liberal media will cover it up
Apparently Michelle Obama was in town a few days before and this is very fishy according to QAnon
A fake FOX tweet saying Omar tweeted 'they reap what they sow' as a response to the fire
A lot of stuff about Notre Dame being the symbol of Judeo-Christian civilisation and therefore it must be a terrorist attack

Ah internet..

I’ll add another one to the list: Macron did it. Where from? Right here on NSG.
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Postby Andsed » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:21 pm

Kowani wrote:
Bombadil wrote:Some of the conspiracy theories going around..

Good ol' Alex Jones thinks it might be a terrorist attack but we'll never know because the liberal media will cover it up
Apparently Michelle Obama was in town a few days before and this is very fishy according to QAnon
A fake FOX tweet saying Omar tweeted 'they reap what they sow' as a response to the fire
A lot of stuff about Notre Dame being the symbol of Judeo-Christian civilisation and therefore it must be a terrorist attack

Ah internet..

I’ll add another one to the list: Macron did it. Where from? Right here on NSG.

Oh and another one also from NSG. The Catholic church did it.
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Postby Trayvik » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:26 pm

Andsed wrote:
Kowani wrote:I’ll add another one to the list: Macron did it. Where from? Right here on NSG.

Oh and another one also from NSG. The Catholic church did it.


What about Satanists?
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Postby Bombadil » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:26 pm

Interesting note..

Bertrand de Feydeau, from the preservation group Fondation du Patrimoine, said the wooden roof was built with beams from primal forests more than 800 years ago. “We don’t, at the moment, have trees on our territory of the size that were cut in the 13th century,” he said. So the roof may never be built exactly the same, it will always carry the mark of this era and will have to use modern technology.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:53 pm

It was obviously arson by the gypsies, Jews, Muslims, atheists, Cathars, Templars, Huguenots, Jacobins, Communards, Vichyists, Germans, and - the ringleader of the bunch - those damn English!

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On a serious note, from what I read it seems that the interior of the building didn't suffer too much damage and the rose windows survived, so that's fortunate.
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Postby Luminesa » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:14 pm

Bombadil wrote:Interesting note..

Bertrand de Feydeau, from the preservation group Fondation du Patrimoine, said the wooden roof was built with beams from primal forests more than 800 years ago. “We don’t, at the moment, have trees on our territory of the size that were cut in the 13th century,” he said. So the roof may never be built exactly the same, it will always carry the mark of this era and will have to use modern technology.

They’d have to import it from an ancient forest...if they could find those...and even then that wood might be very, very fragile.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:19 pm

Bombadil wrote:Interesting note..

Bertrand de Feydeau, from the preservation group Fondation du Patrimoine, said the wooden roof was built with beams from primal forests more than 800 years ago. “We don’t, at the moment, have trees on our territory of the size that were cut in the 13th century,” he said. So the roof may never be built exactly the same, it will always carry the mark of this era and will have to use modern technology.

Besides, finding this kind of old-growth forest AND cutting down those trees would be inconvenient.
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