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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:05 am

Shanhwa wrote:Calling it and have been since yesterday, it was deliberate. Too many coincidences to be an accident.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:07 am

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You want to know what I'm finding sad? The reaction some people are having in social media. Criticizing those who are talking about this incident but don't talk about Syria or Native American art being lost. And as much as I empathize with Syrian refugees and Native American art that's been lost, I also empathize with Notre Dame burning. I've been there. I was raised Catholic, and even though I am not practicing it or identify as Catholic, ND's is a treasure to many people.

I wish, and I realize people have opinions and are entitled to them and can talk about them in their FB or Twitter or whatever, I wish that we didn't always resort to that when a tragedy happens. Then again, it's social media. Someone will always rain on someone else's parade.



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Interestingly r/atheism is upset that the building has been damaged due to it’s historical value
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:08 am

Shrillland wrote:
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can they rebuild the parts that are burnt/destroyed? does the knowledge still exist?


Indeed they can. We must remember that very little of what Notre Dame was was actually original save for the stone and the ceiling, even the spire only dates back to Napoleon III's reign. The biggest loss has been the rose windows, and even they can be reclaimed in time.

Apparently all three Rose Windows are safe according to French officials
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:17 am

Thermodolia wrote:
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Indeed they can. We must remember that very little of what Notre Dame was was actually original save for the stone and the ceiling, even the spire only dates back to Napoleon III's reign. The biggest loss has been the rose windows, and even they can be reclaimed in time.

Apparently all three Rose Windows are safe according to French officials


Which was all I was really concerned about tbh
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:21 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Who owns it - the French government or the Catholic Church?

The French government owns it
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:22 am

Greater Loegria wrote:
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Why don't you answer the question?

It is an active Roman Catholic Cathedral. So... I don't know who owns it... McDonalds maybe?

Surprisingly the RCC doesn’t own ND. The French Government does
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:24 am

Shanhwa wrote:Calling it and have been since yesterday, it was deliberate. Too many coincidences to be an accident.

French authorities have said they have no reason to believe it was a deliberate act. Speculation like yours is unwarranted and offensive

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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:25 am

Thermodolia wrote:Apparently all three Rose Windows are safe according to French officials

Photos appear to show that at least one of the cathedral's famed rose windows has survived, although there are concerns for some of the other stained-glass windows.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47943705
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:26 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Shanhwa wrote:Calling it and have been since yesterday, it was deliberate. Too many coincidences to be an accident.

:roll:

We're supposed to just believe that wood is """coincidentally"""" flammable? I don't think so, there's definitely something fishy here.

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An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:They managed to save the Tunic of St Louis, and the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.

The last thing you want being left in a fire is the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.

As long as you dont could to 3, it should be ok.
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Pledged donations are already in the hundreds of millions of Euros. I’m almost in tears again
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:32 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Apparently all three Rose Windows are safe according to French officials

Photos appear to show that at least one of the cathedral's famed rose windows has survived, although there are concerns for some of the other stained-glass windows.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47943705

The Rose windows are a trio of immense round stained-glass windows over the cathedral's three main portals that date back to the 13th century. The Archbishop of Paris said all three have been saved, reports CNN affiliate BFM TV.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/15/europe/n ... index.html

All three windows are safe
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:32 am

Tarsonis wrote:Pledged donations are already in the hundreds of millions of Euros. I’m almost in tears again

That’s amazing. Where can people donate?

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:33 am

Ifreann wrote:
The New California Republic wrote: :roll:

We're supposed to just believe that wood is """coincidentally"""" flammable? I don't think so, there's definitely something fishy here.


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Postby North German Realm » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:34 am

Tarsonis wrote:Pledged donations are already in the hundreds of millions of Euros. I’m almost in tears again

I was pretty surprised, and pleasantly so, when I read about the big donations today.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:36 am

Bombadil wrote:7. Some phenomenon on Japanese needed therapy when visiting Paris as it's so different from their expectations.


This sounds interesting, I can't really find it. Got a link?
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Postby Andsed » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:38 am

Tarsonis wrote:Pledged donations are already in the hundreds of millions of Euros. I’m almost in tears again

It is nice to know that people are so willing to help restore and preserve a place of such historical, cultural, and religious significance
I do be tired


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Bombadil wrote:7. Some phenomenon on Japanese needed therapy when visiting Paris as it's so different from their expectations.


This sounds interesting, I can't really find it. Got a link?


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Nice meme. You have anything actually useful to add to the thread?
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Serbia-Macedonia wrote:She survived the Black Plague
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Thank Christ we have people with more information than the French authorities investigating the incident. You're right, it is suspect that hundreds-year-old wood during major renovation might catch fire, how odd.
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Serbia-Macedonia wrote:She survived the Black Plague
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French law enforcement does not have any reason to believe this fire was deliberately set. What evidence do you have?
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Bombadil wrote:7. Some phenomenon on Japanese needed therapy when visiting Paris as it's so different from their expectations.


This sounds interesting, I can't really find it. Got a link?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6197921.stm

TL;DR: Paris is not as romantic as Japanese think. It's quite a dirty place.
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The blAAtschApen wrote:
The Holy Therns wrote:
This sounds interesting, I can't really find it. Got a link?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6197921.stm

TL;DR: Paris is not as romantic as Japanese think. It's quite a dirty place.

Huh that is fascinating. I mean of course Japanese and Western culture are quite different but I did not think it could cause that.
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