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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:34 pm

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Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Please point out where people on here are being racist and attacking Omar solely for her race and religion.

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Please explain how just showing the thread itself is any sort of proof that people are attacking her race or religion?
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:35 pm

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:

Please explain how just showing the thread itself is any sort of proof that people are attacking her race or religion?

you could try reading it
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:36 pm

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Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Please explain how just showing the thread itself is any sort of proof that people are attacking her race or religion?

you could try reading it

You could try backing up your claims.
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Postby Estanglia » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:37 pm

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Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Please explain how just showing the thread itself is any sort of proof that people are attacking her race or religion?

you could try reading it


Can't see where all these racists are.

Mind pointing us to the posts/users?
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:41 pm

Estanglia wrote:
Mettaton-EX wrote:you could try reading it


Can't see where all these racists are.

Mind pointing us to the posts/users?

i did
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:42 pm

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Estanglia wrote:
Can't see where all these racists are.

Mind pointing us to the posts/users?

i did

Yeah no, sorry. Some smarmy point by posting the whole thread and not pointing to actual posts where people are only attacking her for her race isnt proof. You're welcome to try again
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Postby Estanglia » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:43 pm

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Estanglia wrote:
Can't see where all these racists are.

Mind pointing us to the posts/users?

i did


You posted the thread.

Last time I checked, the thread itself is not a user.

Unless you're pointing to Aeritai or saying everyone here is racist, which would require some explanation to get "I hate Muslims" from "Omar said something dumb"/"I dislike Omar".
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:45 pm

posting the thread is an adequate response considering that question is virtually never asked in good faith
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Mettaton-EX wrote:posting the thread is an adequate response considering that question is virtually never asked in good faith


Fuck me, asking for opinions on a controversy is never done in good faith?
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:46 pm

Mettaton-EX wrote:posting the thread is an adequate response considering that question is virtually never asked in good faith

So you're just casting a net over everyone who has posted in the thread and calling them racists, based on some baseless personal assumption?
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Postby Bear Stearns » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:47 pm

I dislike Omar and do not think she fit to be a Representative.

^Is this a racist sentence?
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:49 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:I dislike Omar and do not think she fit to be a Representative.

^Is this a racist sentence?

Clearly it is because she is a Somalian Muslim and that is her only aspects as a human being, therefore you must only dislike her based on these factors and nothing else.
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Postby Aeritai » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:49 pm

Just saying I been reading through this thread and I didn't see any racist comments made by the posters that were criticising her.
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Postby Estanglia » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:51 pm

Estanglia wrote:
Mettaton-EX wrote:posting the thread is an adequate response considering that question is virtually never asked in good faith


Fuck me, asking for opinions on a controversy is never done in good faith?


Or is it the act of asking this question about Omar is never done in good faith?

Because that is one hell of an assumption.
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Postby Andsed » Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:16 pm

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Estanglia wrote:
Almost nobody is criticising Omar without being racist?

"I Am Proof You Have Not Forgotten" is most certainly racist in nature.

Oh well it is a good thing that is not the main reason many of us so called racist are using. God give up this attempt to dismiss anyone who does not like Omar is a racist it is getting old fast:

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Almost nobody is criticising Omar without being racist?

exactly

Bullshit.
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Postby Nilrahrarfan » Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:19 pm

Ilhan Omar's policies kind of give me the creeps, because she doesn't belong in an American office. Or any office, for that matter. Not because of her race, but because of her recent behavior. In fact, she would be getting the DEAT if she was on Nationstates.
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Postby Andsed » Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:21 pm

Mettaton-EX wrote:
Estanglia wrote:
Can't see where all these racists are.

Mind pointing us to the posts/users?

i did

No you did not. You posted a link to this thread in an attempt to make it look like anyone in this thread who disagreed with Omar is a racist in a lazy way to try and dismiss their onpinons. So please link to the posters attacking Omar for racist reasons.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:13 pm

Nilrahrarfan wrote:Ilhan Omar's policies kind of give me the creeps, because she doesn't belong in an American office. Or any office, for that matter. Not because of her race, but because of her recent behavior. In fact, she would be getting the DEAT if she was on Nationstates.


And what behaviours would those be?

Considering how many times we've established that the whole "downplayed 9/11" thing was a lie.
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Nilrahrarfan wrote:Ilhan Omar's policies kind of give me the creeps, because she doesn't belong in an American office. Or any office, for that matter. Not because of her race, but because of her recent behavior. In fact, she would be getting the DEAT if she was on Nationstates.


And what behaviours would those be?

Considering how many times we've established that the whole "downplayed 9/11" thing was a lie.


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Postby Gormwood » Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:21 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Nilrahrarfan wrote:Ilhan Omar's policies kind of give me the creeps, because she doesn't belong in an American office. Or any office, for that matter. Not because of her race, but because of her recent behavior. In fact, she would be getting the DEAT if she was on Nationstates.


And what behaviours would those be?

Considering how many times we've established that the whole "downplayed 9/11" thing was a lie.

I think we've established that conservatives are outraged that Rep. Omar as a Muslim did not express sufficient remorse for 9/11 as if she was crashed all 4 planes herself even while addressing CAIR on how it put Muslim Americans in a similar situation as Japanese Americans right after Pearl Harbor.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:04 pm

Nilrahrarfan wrote:Ilhan Omar's policies kind of give me the creeps, because she doesn't belong in an American office. Or any office, for that matter. Not because of her race, but because of her recent behavior. In fact, she would be getting the DEAT if she was on Nationstates.

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Postby Zizou » Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:19 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And what behaviours would those be?

Considering how many times we've established that the whole "downplayed 9/11" thing was a lie.

I think we've established that conservatives are outraged that Rep. Omar as a Muslim did not express sufficient remorse for 9/11 as if she was crashed all 4 planes herself even while addressing CAIR on how it put Muslim Americans in a similar situation as Japanese Americans right after Pearl Harbor.

I mean, I think it's fairly disrespectful to insinuate that all those that don't like Omar do so because she's Muslim or Somali. There are people who dislike her for her stances on policy and things she says; just like any other politician.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:32 pm

Zizou wrote:
Gormwood wrote:I think we've established that conservatives are outraged that Rep. Omar as a Muslim did not express sufficient remorse for 9/11 as if she was crashed all 4 planes herself even while addressing CAIR on how it put Muslim Americans in a similar situation as Japanese Americans right after Pearl Harbor.

I mean, I think it's fairly disrespectful to insinuate that all those that don't like Omar do so because she's Muslim or Somali. There are people who dislike her for her stances on policy and things she says; just like any other politician.

Sure, but the people that don't like her just because she is Somali or a Muslim are the loudest and most vocal in their opinions while those who only stick to policy they don't agree with don't get much attention.
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Postby Zizou » Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:33 pm

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Zizou wrote:I mean, I think it's fairly disrespectful to insinuate that all those that don't like Omar do so because she's Muslim or Somali. There are people who dislike her for her stances on policy and things she says; just like any other politician.

Sure, but the people that don't like her just because she is Somali or a Muslim are the loudest and most vocal in their opinions while those who only stick to policy they don't agree with don't get much attention.

Sure, that could be true. However, it's a bit disingenuous to assume that all the conservatives that criticize her are doing so because of those 2 factors.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:35 pm

Zizou wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Sure, but the people that don't like her just because she is Somali or a Muslim are the loudest and most vocal in their opinions while those who only stick to policy they don't agree with don't get much attention.

Sure, that could be true. However, it's a bit disingenuous to assume that all the conservatives that criticize her are doing so because of those 2 factors.

The GOP certainly doesn't go the policy route and opts to call her a socialist and an anti-semite, all in an effort to denigrate her and to stir up their voter base.
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