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Postby Andsed » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:13 pm

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Bezkoshtovnya wrote:I have already outlined several other policies she advocates that people have grounds to disagree with. Stop being intentionally naive and obtuse.


What policies does she advocate that justify death threats?

....Are you serious right now? We have not been saying the death threats are justified. We are saying that people can Omar without being racist.
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:14 pm

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Bezkoshtovnya wrote:I have already outlined several other policies she advocates that people have grounds to disagree with. Stop being intentionally naive and obtuse.


What policies does she advocate that justify death threats?

This is getting old. No one on NSG has supported or endorsed the death threats. Why do you continue to try and make it appear otherwise?
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:18 pm

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Holy Tedalonia wrote:I don’t hate the lass, but in a attempt to appease both Muslim and American alike she has (by poor wording and a poorly thought out speech) marginalized the disaster of 9/11. That’s a feature that’s leaves a distasteful opinion of someone.


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Postby Vassenor » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:19 pm

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Druulis wrote:
What policies does she advocate that justify death threats?

....Are you serious right now? We have not been saying the death threats are justified. We are saying that people can Omar without being racist.


OK, let's rephrase the question. What proportion of the people hurling death threats at her do we know have been doing so because of her policy positions?
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:21 pm

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Andsed wrote:....Are you serious right now? We have not been saying the death threats are justified. We are saying that people can Omar without being racist.


OK, let's rephrase the question. What proportion of the people hurling death threats at her do we know have been doing so because of her policy positions?

"Working for the Muslim Brotherhood" is obviously a policy position.
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Postby Andsed » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:21 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Andsed wrote:....Are you serious right now? We have not been saying the death threats are justified. We are saying that people can Omar without being racist.


OK, let's rephrase the question. What proportion of the people hurling death threats at her do we know have been doing so because of her policy positions?

Okay Vass have you not been reading my posts? No one has said the death threats are justified or okay. Our argument against Druulis has only been that you can criticize Omar without being racist. Please cut the bullshit.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:22 pm

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OK, let's rephrase the question. What proportion of the people hurling death threats at her do we know have been doing so because of her policy positions?

Okay Vass have you not been reading my posts? No one has said the death threats are justified or okay. Are argument against Druulis has only been that you can criticize Omar without being racist.


Did you read mine? I'm not saying that it's the only possible reason. I'm asking what proportion have actually been doing it for other reasons.
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Postby Luna Amore » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:23 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Andsed wrote:Okay Vass have you not been reading my posts? No one has said the death threats are justified or okay. Are argument against Druulis has only been that you can criticize Omar without being racist.


Did you read mine? I'm not saying that it's the only possible reason. I'm asking what proportion have actually been doing it for other reasons.

Crazy people exist. What's your point?

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Postby Andsed » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:23 pm

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Andsed wrote:Okay Vass have you not been reading my posts? No one has said the death threats are justified or okay. Are argument against Druulis has only been that you can criticize Omar without being racist.


Did you read mine? I'm not saying that it's the only possible reason. I'm asking what proportion have actually been doing it for other reasons.

And that question has nothing to do with my argument.
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:27 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Andsed wrote:Okay Vass have you not been reading my posts? No one has said the death threats are justified or okay. Are argument against Druulis has only been that you can criticize Omar without being racist.


Did you read mine? I'm not saying that it's the only possible reason. I'm asking what proportion have actually been doing it for other reasons.

Yeah the people threatening to kill her probably are not wholly concerned with having a debate over her policies, and probably aren't influenced mostly by them in their horrid threats. What is your point?
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Postby Druulis » Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:24 am

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Did you read mine? I'm not saying that it's the only possible reason. I'm asking what proportion have actually been doing it for other reasons.

Yeah the people threatening to kill her probably are not wholly concerned with having a debate over her policies, and probably aren't influenced mostly by them in their horrid threats. What is your point?


Well you seem to be looking for excuses to attack a Muslim woman for spurious reasons. Also as all this feigned outage came about because Omar was critical of Israel I have reason to suspect that all this sudden concern over 'respecting 9/11 victims' is entirely in bad faith.

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Postby Andsed » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:59 am

Druulis wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Yeah the people threatening to kill her probably are not wholly concerned with having a debate over her policies, and probably aren't influenced mostly by them in their horrid threats. What is your point?


Well you seem to be looking for excuses to attack a Muslim woman for spurious reasons. Also as all this feigned outage came about because Omar was critical of Israel I have reason to suspect that all this sudden concern over 'respecting 9/11 victims' is entirely in bad faith.

I find it funny that your complaining people about feigning outrage but now your here feigning outrage as well and doing some serious mental gymnastics to try and find something to call us racist with.
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Postby Druulis » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:51 am

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Well you seem to be looking for excuses to attack a Muslim woman for spurious reasons. Also as all this feigned outage came about because Omar was critical of Israel I have reason to suspect that all this sudden concern over 'respecting 9/11 victims' is entirely in bad faith.

I find it funny that your complaining people about feigning outrage but now your here feigning outrage as well and doing some serious mental gymnastics to try and find something to call us racist with.


It doesn't take much when all you have is an out of context quote.'

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Postby Andsed » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:59 am

Druulis wrote:
Andsed wrote:I find it funny that your complaining people about feigning outrage but now your here feigning outrage as well and doing some serious mental gymnastics to try and find something to call us racist with.


It doesn't take much when all you have is an out of context quote.'

Well then it is a good thing that quote is not the only problem many of these so called racist have with Omar. I don't see why you seemly do not get that people can not like Omar and not be racist.
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Postby Estanglia » Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:41 am

Druulis wrote:
Andsed wrote:I find it funny that your complaining people about feigning outrage but now your here feigning outrage as well and doing some serious mental gymnastics to try and find something to call us racist with.


It doesn't take much when all you have is an out of context quote.'


So not knowing the full story makes you racist? Man, we all must be vicious, vicious racists.

Every time you overheard part of a conversation and made an assumption? Well, that was clearly racist.

Friend only told you part of the story? Wow, how racist!

Heard something out of context? Goddamn, you might as well go join your local racist group.

Unless there's somehow an exception when it comes to Omar. I wonder what it could be...
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:49 pm

Druulis wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Yeah the people threatening to kill her probably are not wholly concerned with having a debate over her policies, and probably aren't influenced mostly by them in their horrid threats. What is your point?


Well you seem to be looking for excuses to attack a Muslim woman for spurious reasons. Also as all this feigned outage came about because Omar was critical of Israel I have reason to suspect that all this sudden concern over 'respecting 9/11 victims' is entirely in bad faith.

I'm really not, actually. I am just being sensible, unlike you, and putting forward the shocking realization that people can disagree with Omar and not have anything to do with attacking her race or religion. Again, stop pathetically trying to frame everyone who has disagreements as nothing but racists and bigots, because this is clearly not the case.

Hell, I havent even said I disagree with her myself or anything. I literally have not said a single thing about Omar, and am only saying that there are reasons to disagree with Omar that have nothing to do with race, which you seem utterly unable to comprehend. It's like you are trying to say that the fact she is Muslim and female suddenly makes her immune to any sort of disagreement.
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:15 pm

Andsed wrote:
Druulis wrote:
What policies does she advocate that justify death threats?

....Are you serious right now? We have not been saying the death threats are justified. We are saying that people can Omar without being racist.

theoretically, sure. but almost nobody is actually doing that
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Postby Estanglia » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:20 pm

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Andsed wrote:....Are you serious right now? We have not been saying the death threats are justified. We are saying that people can Omar without being racist.

theoretically, sure. but almost nobody is actually doing that


Almost nobody is criticising Omar without being racist?
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Postby Gormwood » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:24 pm

Estanglia wrote:
Mettaton-EX wrote:theoretically, sure. but almost nobody is actually doing that


Almost nobody is criticising Omar without being racist?

"I Am Proof You Have Not Forgotten" is most certainly racist in nature.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:25 pm

Omar's foreign policy is the only rational thing about her. What an odd thing to criticize.
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:25 pm

Estanglia wrote:
Mettaton-EX wrote:theoretically, sure. but almost nobody is actually doing that


Almost nobody is criticising Omar without being racist?

exactly
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:26 pm

Mettaton-EX wrote:
Estanglia wrote:
Almost nobody is criticising Omar without being racist?

exactly

Please point out where people on here are being racist and attacking Omar solely for her race and religion.
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Postby Estanglia » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:30 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Estanglia wrote:
Almost nobody is criticising Omar without being racist?

"I Am Proof You Have Not Forgotten" is most certainly racist in nature.


Sure it is, but 'almost nobody is actually doing that' is a broad statement that requires backing. Unless almost everyone agrees with that, it isn't the backing needed.

Mettaton-EX wrote:
Estanglia wrote:
Almost nobody is criticising Omar without being racist?

exactly


That's an extremely general and broad statement you're making. Also sounds quite hyperbolic. Got any backing for it?
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:31 pm

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
Mettaton-EX wrote:exactly

Please point out where people on here are being racist and attacking Omar solely for her race and religion.

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Postby Estanglia » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:32 pm

Mettaton-EX wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Please point out where people on here are being racist and attacking Omar solely for her race and religion.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=462883



..the thread itself is proof?
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