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Postby Yusseria » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:20 pm

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Yusseria wrote:Am I?

Yes. Since nearly the start of this thread you've been pretending that people are defending Omar's statements and trying to prevent criticism of her. But you don't seem willing to actually commit to actually caring if people do that, probably since that would really not line up with how you've claimed not to care about criminal death threats made against members of Congress.

You're just trying to pick fights and trigger someone.

Caring if people do... what? Criticize her?

You're making some fascinating leaps of logic.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:21 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Yes. Since nearly the start of this thread you've been pretending that people are defending Omar's statements and trying to prevent criticism of her. But you don't seem willing to actually commit to actually caring if people do that, probably since that would really not line up with how you've claimed not to care about criminal death threats made against members of Congress.

You're just trying to pick fights and trigger someone.

Caring if people do... what? Criticize her?

You're making some fascinating leaps of logic.

I thought you were leaving the thread.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:28 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Yes. Since nearly the start of this thread you've been pretending that people are defending Omar's statements and trying to prevent criticism of her. But you don't seem willing to actually commit to actually caring if people do that, probably since that would really not line up with how you've claimed not to care about criminal death threats made against members of Congress.

You're just trying to pick fights and trigger someone.

Caring if people do... what? Criticize her?

Defend her statements or dismiss criticism of them as invalid.

You're making some fascinating leaps of logic.

You're trying very hard to pretend you can't follow perfectly straightforward sentences.
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Postby Gormwood » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:37 pm

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Gormwood wrote:If you had bothered to track the discussion you would have seen I was referring to Luna dismissing the significance of the "I Am Proof You Have Not Forgotten" poster at the West Virginia GOP event.

You haven't shown how one poster at a table in West Virginia is nationally significant to the claim that Trump and/or Republican representatives are calling for or inciting violence.

If you're unable or unwilling to grasp the concept of stochastic terrorism then it's your problem. Or you're in denial about the Republicans' general antipathy towards Muslims and specifically towards Rep. Omar.

Is the Sanders supporter who shot up that baseball game evidence that Bernie's or the Democrats are inciting violence?

Have you seen posts in this forum that unironically equate the baseball shooting to just about every right-wing violence?
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Postby Yusseria » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:38 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Caring if people do... what? Criticize her?

Defend her statements or dismiss criticism of them as invalid.

Yes, again, this a debate thread. People do that.

You're making some fascinating leaps of logic.

You're trying very hard to pretend you can't follow perfectly straightforward sentences.

Because your sentences aren't very straightforward and you're oftentimes unclear as to what your actual point is.
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Postby Gormwood » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:40 pm

Yusseria wrote:Since all you have is childish silliness, I think I'll bow out. Not much I can do to help those who refuse it. I'll just leave you with this so that one day you might correct your errors.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/whataboutism

Yusseria wrote:What about referring to the Armenian genocide as "something that some people did"? Or the Holocaust (forgive me, Godwin) as "something that some people did"? Or, hey, perhaps Charlottesville as "something that some person did?"

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Postby Gormwood » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:41 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Defend her statements or dismiss criticism of them as invalid.

Yes, again, this a debate thread. People do that.

You're trying very hard to pretend you can't follow perfectly straightforward sentences.

Because your sentences aren't very straightforward and you're oftentimes unclear as to what your actual point is.

Um...

I thought you were leaving the thread.
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Postby Yusseria » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:41 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Since all you have is childish silliness, I think I'll bow out. Not much I can do to help those who refuse it. I'll just leave you with this so that one day you might correct your errors.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/whataboutism

Yusseria wrote:What about referring to the Armenian genocide as "something that some people did"? Or the Holocaust (forgive me, Godwin) as "something that some people did"? Or, hey, perhaps Charlottesville as "something that some person did?"

Physician, Heal Thyself.

It was theoretical. I wasn't referring to actual incidences.

You still seem rather angry that you couldn't refute my points.
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Postby Yusseria » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:42 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Yes, again, this a debate thread. People do that.


Because your sentences aren't very straightforward and you're oftentimes unclear as to what your actual point is.

Um...

I thought you were leaving the thread.

Still unable to refute the points I made. Pity.
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Postby Gormwood » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:44 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Um...


Still unable to refute the points I made. Pity.

The real pity is your inability to keep your own words due to a need to win arguments and score points.
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Postby Yusseria » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:46 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Still unable to refute the points I made. Pity.

The real pity is your inability to keep your own words due to a need to win arguments and score points.

Why are you lot so damned eager to make me the topic of the thread? Am I really that appealing? I don't think so.

But it's what one does when they're unable to address the points others made. You should get back to defending your cult leader.
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Postby Badb Catha » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:46 pm

It was a poorly worded and poorly phrased sentence but this seems to be an overreaction all the same.
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Postby Gormwood » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:48 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Gormwood wrote:The real pity is your inability to keep your own words due to a need to win arguments and score points.

Why are you lot so damned eager to make me the topic of the thread? Am I really that appealing? I don't think so.

But it's what one does when they're unable to address the points others made. You should get back to defending your cult leader.

"Defend your cult leader," says the Trump supporter.
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Postby Gormwood » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:49 pm

Badb Catha wrote:It was a poorly worded and poorly phrased sentence but this seems to be an overreaction all the same.

The Republicans act like they want her to apologize for committing 9/11.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:49 pm

Badb Catha wrote:It was a poorly worded and poorly phrased sentence but this seems to be an overreaction all the same.


How the fuck did we get to the point where the neo-fascist in the room has a more nuanced opinion than most of the thread?
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:50 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Defend her statements or dismiss criticism of them as invalid.

Yes, again, this a debate thread. People do that.

Not in the way that you're pretending they are.

You're trying very hard to pretend you can't follow perfectly straightforward sentences.

Because your sentences aren't very straightforward and you're oftentimes unclear as to what your actual point is.

You're pretending you couldn't follow what was being referenced from one sentence to the next. That's not me being unclear with my point, that's you pretending you can't read.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:51 pm

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Badb Catha wrote:It was a poorly worded and poorly phrased sentence but this seems to be an overreaction all the same.


How the fuck did we get to the point where the neo-fascist in the room has a more nuanced opinion than most of the thread?

Maybe because none of you can let anyone else have the last word? Just a thought.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:51 pm

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Valrifell wrote:
How the fuck did we get to the point where the neo-fascist in the room has a more nuanced opinion than most of the thread?

Maybe because none of you can let anyone else have the last word? Just a thought.


Now that's not tru-

Hm. You left me in a no-win situation here.
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Postby Badb Catha » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:55 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Badb Catha wrote:It was a poorly worded and poorly phrased sentence but this seems to be an overreaction all the same.

The Republicans act like they want her to apologize for committing 9/11.


It is a simple smear campaign that is typical of the political divide in US politics. Everything the other side does is always wrong.

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Badb Catha wrote:It was a poorly worded and poorly phrased sentence but this seems to be an overreaction all the same.


How the fuck did we get to the point where the neo-fascist in the room has a more nuanced opinion than most of the thread?


Why do you assume that my political stance refutes any possibility of me holding a perfectly rational opinion? That's quite presumptuous.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:56 pm

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Valrifell wrote:
How the fuck did we get to the point where the neo-fascist in the room has a more nuanced opinion than most of the thread?


Why do you assume that my political stance refutes any possibility of me holding a perfectly rational opinion? That's quite presumptuous.


You are quite correct.
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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:58 pm

“Rep. Omar faces backlash from Republicans. In other news, Trump faces backlash from Democrats”
why is this worthy of its own thread when both parties mudsling at each other’s prominent members all the time?
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Postby Gormwood » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:59 pm

Aureumterra wrote:“Rep. Omar faces backlash from Republicans. In other news, Trump faces backlash from Democrats”
why is this worthy of its own thread when both parties mudsling at each other’s prominent members all the time?

Rep. Omar doesn't have the Secret Service to protect her from death threats and to charge rent to.
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Postby New haven america » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:00 pm

Aureumterra wrote:“Rep. Omar faces backlash from Republicans. In other news, Trump faces backlash from Democrats”
why is this worthy of its own thread when both parties mudsling at each other’s prominent members all the time?

Because she disrespected 9/11, which made Republican party members mad (Despite the fact that the party supports removing benefits and support from 9/11 first responders).
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Postby Badb Catha » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:01 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Badb Catha wrote:
Why do you assume that my political stance refutes any possibility of me holding a perfectly rational opinion? That's quite presumptuous.


You are quite correct.


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Postby Valrifell » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:05 pm

New haven america wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:“Rep. Omar faces backlash from Republicans. In other news, Trump faces backlash from Democrats”
why is this worthy of its own thread when both parties mudsling at each other’s prominent members all the time?

Because she disrespected 9/11, which made Republican party members mad (Despite the fact that the party supports removing benefits and support from 9/11 first responders).


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