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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:06 pm
by Heloin
Cerinda wrote:AU is threatening of revoking Sudan's membership:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/16/afri ... index.html

The AU threatens revoke every other member states membership every couple of years. Nothing to be surprised about.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:08 pm
by Valrifell
Heloin wrote:
Cerinda wrote:AU is threatening of revoking Sudan's membership:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/16/afri ... index.html

The AU threatens revoke every other member states membership every couple of years. Nothing to be surprised about.


If it gets revoked, they'll be back in a few years.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:49 pm
by Novus America
Heloin wrote:
Cerinda wrote:AU is threatening of revoking Sudan's membership:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/16/afri ... index.html

The AU threatens revoke every other member states membership every couple of years. Nothing to be surprised about.


Also funny that the AU was okay with 30 years of military rule, and only now is complaining about military rule.

Not that the AU matters anyways.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:00 pm
by Heloin
Novus America wrote:
Heloin wrote:The AU threatens revoke every other member states membership every couple of years. Nothing to be surprised about.


Also funny that the AU was okay with 30 years of military rule, and only now is complaining about military rule.

Not that the AU matters anyways.

Military dictatorship?
"Cool!"
Genocide in Darfur?
"Right on!"
Stole millions from public funds?
"Who doesn't nowadays?"
New Military Dictatorship?
"Hold on a second, we don't do this sort of thing in the African Union."

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:29 pm
by Cerinda
Bashir has been moved to prison

I wonder if the new government will hand him over to the ICC?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:55 pm
by Khataiy
Cerinda wrote:Bashir has been moved to prison

I wonder if the new government will hand him over to the ICC?

The new government are the ones who did the things that would make him wanted by the ICC

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:57 pm
by Khataiy
Novus America wrote:
Heloin wrote:The AU threatens revoke every other member states membership every couple of years. Nothing to be surprised about.


Also funny that the AU was okay with 30 years of military rule, and only now is complaining about military rule.

Not that the AU matters anyways.

It's not that they supported it, it was more of a matter of keeping status quo.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:01 pm
by Yanitza
Khataiy wrote:
Cerinda wrote:Bashir has been moved to prison

I wonder if the new government will hand him over to the ICC?

The new government are the ones who did the things that would make him wanted by the ICC

Bashir played a pretty important role in the genocide, but yes a lot of the military establishment is also culpable and will probably try and save their own skin by offering Bashir up.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:40 pm
by Novus America
Khataiy wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Also funny that the AU was okay with 30 years of military rule, and only now is complaining about military rule.

Not that the AU matters anyways.

It's not that they supported it, it was more of a matter of keeping status quo.


When the status quo is a military dictatorship supporting the status quo is obviously supporting a military dictatorship.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:40 am
by Cerinda
Holy shit:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-47987962

I think it's likely now that Sudan is becoming a democracy.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:29 am
by Khataiy
Cerinda wrote:Holy shit:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-47987962

I think it's likely now that Sudan is becoming a democracy.

It's all for show

PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:31 am
by Cerinda
Khataiy wrote:
Cerinda wrote:Holy shit:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-47987962

I think it's likely now that Sudan is becoming a democracy.

It's all for show

How?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:19 pm
by Duhon
Khataiy wrote:
Cerinda wrote:Holy shit:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-47987962

I think it's likely now that Sudan is becoming a democracy.

It's all for show


Unless you think the protesters are mere matryoshka dolls hiding the coup plotters underneath, I have to unload all my doubt on this one.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:35 pm
by North German Realm
Duhon wrote:
Khataiy wrote:It's all for show


Unless you think the protesters are mere matryoshka dolls hiding the coup plotters underneath, I have to unload all my doubt on this one.

He's just mad that the Arab-inclined despot was replaced. Of course, I still doubt there'll be democracy in the immediate future of Sudan though (maybe, if nothing goes wrong and nobody invades anything, in the next 5-10 years they'll have a hybrid regime inching towards a functional flawed democracy, but they'll be the same authoritarian state for the next 5-10 years at least)

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 3:35 am
by Duhon
Well, it seems that after weeks of deadlock and wrangling over how best to transition to a transition (protest leaders want a predominantly civilian transition towards a secular democratic Sudan, the military wants preeminent control over any governing body that may be formed plus a decidedly Islamic cast to any future laws to be implemented), it seems that the military has invited the leaders of the Declaration of Freedom and Change Forces -- clunky name, but fuck it -- for what it and evidently Al-Jazeera calls "decisive talks" to finally ensure a smooth transition.

I dunno -- one part of me can't but reflect back to General Ackbar screeching, the other bady wishes for good, democratic news, for the people of Sudan, for me, and for the people of Sudan. This fucking around has got to stop. It has to.

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:26 pm
by Kowani
Duhon wrote:Well, it seems that after weeks of deadlock and wrangling over how best to transition to a transition (protest leaders want a predominantly civilian transition towards a secular democratic Sudan, the military wants preeminent control over any governing body that may be formed plus a decidedly Islamic cast to any future laws to be implemented), it seems that the military has invited the leaders of the Declaration of Freedom and Change Forces -- clunky name, but fuck it -- for what it and evidently Al-Jazeera calls "decisive talks" to finally ensure a smooth transition.

I dunno -- one part of me can't but reflect back to General Ackbar screeching, the other bady wishes for good, democratic news, for the people of Sudan, for me, and for the people of Sudan. This fucking around has got to stop. It has to.

Well, things don’t seem to be going terribly...yet.