Military Coup in Sudan topples President Omar Al-Bashir

[Rio Cana]

First Assange has been arrested now Bashir has been overthrown, today has been quite eventful in world politics.

The coup leaders could have picked a better date tbh, all everyone is going to be doing for the next few days is Assange and not that a dictator is overthrown. Reminds me of when there was a civil war in Gambia which occurred on the same day of Trump's inauguration.

Checked. There was no civil war. The outgoing Pres. did not want to leave after accepting defeat at the polls. So protests plus armed intervention by three African nations convinced him to leave.

[Dushan]

Let's see what they do with their newfound freedom;
Sources:

https://apnews.com/237fa4c447d74698804be210512c3ed1 < South Sudanese attacking Aid Workers
https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/09/06/di ... diplomats/ < South Sudanese Government Forces trying to kill US Ambassador

The so-called "international community" (aka the West) should never have been supported the creation of this entity. Thats how they say thanks.

South Sudan has fought 2 wars to achieve its independence so I really doubt it's going to let its former oppressor to roll in and take it away. If Sudan does invade the south then not only will both the rebels and government stop their fighting and unite together against the invading forces but the UN and especially the US will tolerate their ally being invaded and will most likely send troops to aid them. So a war will literally achieve nothing apart from more death and destruction.

Their "ally" tried to kill the US Ambassador and had US aid workers raped and killed.

The incident may have been never received much coverage due the elections but could easily have ended in a Benghazi 2.0

[Yanitza]

Let's see what they do with their newfound freedom;
Sources:

https://apnews.com/237fa4c447d74698804be210512c3ed1 < South Sudanese attacking Aid Workers
https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/09/06/di ... diplomats/ < South Sudanese Government Forces trying to kill US Ambassador

The so-called "international community" (aka the West) should never have been supported the creation of this entity. Thats how they say thanks.

If the new Sudanese government is any better than the shit Bashir put the poor people through, just let them take over "South Sudan". It has the three benefits of decreasing the number of soviereign states, pacifying South Sudan, and making Sudan stop being an Arab Majority Nation (and thus part of the Arab World)

South Sudan is much demograhically smaller than Sudan, so I fail to see how it would stop it being an Arab majority state, or affect Sudans standing in the Arab world.

Let's see what they do with their newfound freedom;
Sources:

https://apnews.com/237fa4c447d74698804be210512c3ed1 < South Sudanese attacking Aid Workers
https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/09/06/di ... diplomats/ < South Sudanese Government Forces trying to kill US Ambassador

The so-called "international community" (aka the West) should never have been supported the creation of this entity. Thats how they say thanks.

South Sudan has fought 2 wars to achieve its independence so I really doubt it's going to let its former oppressor to roll in and take it away. If Sudan does invade the south then not only will both the rebels and government stop their fighting and unite together against the invading forces but the UN and especially the US will tolerate their ally being invaded and will most likely send troops to aid them. So a war will literally achieve nothing apart from more death and destruction.

Independence only became a goal for South Sudan during the late 1990s when Riek Machar split from the SPLM to form his own group (that was ironically supported by the Sudanese government to split the rebel movement) most of the civil wars aims was for Southern autonomy and a secular Sudan. And I doubt they will unify, as no doubt the Sudanese government would pick southern leaders amendable to compromise to rule in the south on their behalf, essentially outsourcing the violence.

[Cetacea]

General Omar Zain al-Abideen Head of the Military Council has made a statement directed at appeasing the protests saying "You, the people, will provide the solutions for all economic and political issues. We have come with no ideology, we have come here to maintain order and security to provide the opportunity for the people of Sudan to achieve the change they aspire to. We have no ambition to hold the reins of power. We are here to provide an all-inclusive umbrella..."

They've promised to begin transition to Civilian elections and have asked political parties to name representatives for a meeting with coup leaders at a later date. They have stated that the Ministries of Defence and Ministry of Interior will be under direct military control and a 3 month state of emergency is in place.

So great to hear that words, lets hope the stick by the promise

[Yanitza]

General Omar Zain al-Abideen Head of the Military Council has made a statement directed at appeasing the protests saying "You, the people, will provide the solutions for all economic and political issues. We have come with no ideology, we have come here to maintain order and security to provide the opportunity for the people of Sudan to achieve the change they aspire to. We have no ambition to hold the reins of power. We are here to provide an all-inclusive umbrella..."

They've promised to begin transition to Civilian elections and have asked political parties to name representatives for a meeting with coup leaders at a later date. They have stated that the Ministries of Defence and Ministry of Interior will be under direct military control and a 3 month state of emergency is in place.

So great to hear that words, lets hope the stick by the promise

Very interesting, I remember reading an article last year I think about the prospects of the Sudanese regime in the future and the fact that it didn't really have a younger cohort to emerge and replace the old guard. I guess this is somewhat correct if the regime is so willing to let go of power for now. Still, I wonder what backroom deals are being made and what the ultimate outcome of this will be.

[US-SSR]

General Omar Zain al-Abideen Head of the Military Council has made a statement directed at appeasing the protests saying "You, the people, will provide the solutions for all economic and political issues. We have come with no ideology, we have come here to maintain order and security to provide the opportunity for the people of Sudan to achieve the change they aspire to. We have no ambition to hold the reins of power. We are here to provide an all-inclusive umbrella..."

They've promised to begin transition to Civilian elections and have asked political parties to name representatives for a meeting with coup leaders at a later date. They have stated that the Ministries of Defence and Ministry of Interior will be under direct military control and a 3 month state of emergency is in place.

So great to hear that words, lets hope the stick by the promise

Or...having realized that their first attempt to suborn the opposition was failing badly, the Military Council replaced its initial figurehead with someone slightly more acceptable and regrouped, proposed a delay and prepared to consolidate its power, starting with seizing the commanding heights (Defence and Interior).

Either that or this begins to look like Bolivia in the bad old days when Presidential terms were measured in days, if not hours...

Let's see what they do with their newfound freedom;
Sources:

https://apnews.com/237fa4c447d74698804be210512c3ed1 < South Sudanese attacking Aid Workers
https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/09/06/di ... diplomats/ < South Sudanese Government Forces trying to kill US Ambassador

The so-called "international community" (aka the West) should never have been supported the creation of this entity. Thats how they say thanks.

South Sudan has fought 2 wars to achieve its independence so I really doubt it's going to let its former oppressor to roll in and take it away. If Sudan does invade the south then not only will both the rebels and government stop their fighting and unite together against the invading forces but the UN and especially the US will tolerate their ally being invaded and will most likely send troops to aid them. So a war will literally achieve nothing apart from more death and destruction.

There is exactly zero chance of the US sending troops to Sudan to protect anyone. First, it has no troops to spare; second, the Colluder-in-Chief has no interest in African "s--thole countries." Sorry mate.

[Trollgaard]

General Omar Zain al-Abideen Head of the Military Council has made a statement directed at appeasing the protests saying "You, the people, will provide the solutions for all economic and political issues. We have come with no ideology, we have come here to maintain order and security to provide the opportunity for the people of Sudan to achieve the change they aspire to. We have no ambition to hold the reins of power. We are here to provide an all-inclusive umbrella..."

They've promised to begin transition to Civilian elections and have asked political parties to name representatives for a meeting with coup leaders at a later date. They have stated that the Ministries of Defence and Ministry of Interior will be under direct military control and a 3 month state of emergency is in place.

So great to hear that words, lets hope the stick by the promise

Very neat.

[San Lumen]

General Omar Zain al-Abideen Head of the Military Council has made a statement directed at appeasing the protests saying "You, the people, will provide the solutions for all economic and political issues. We have come with no ideology, we have come here to maintain order and security to provide the opportunity for the people of Sudan to achieve the change they aspire to. We have no ambition to hold the reins of power. We are here to provide an all-inclusive umbrella..."

They've promised to begin transition to Civilian elections and have asked political parties to name representatives for a meeting with coup leaders at a later date. They have stated that the Ministries of Defence and Ministry of Interior will be under direct military control and a 3 month state of emergency is in place.

So great to hear that words, lets hope the stick by the promise

Well this is very welcome news. Perhaps Sudan will not end up like Egypt. This is already showing much promise.

[Duhon]

General Omar Zain al-Abideen Head of the Military Council has made a statement directed at appeasing the protests saying "You, the people, will provide the solutions for all economic and political issues. We have come with no ideology, we have come here to maintain order and security to provide the opportunity for the people of Sudan to achieve the change they aspire to. We have no ambition to hold the reins of power. We are here to provide an all-inclusive umbrella..."

They've promised to begin transition to Civilian elections and have asked political parties to name representatives for a meeting with coup leaders at a later date. They have stated that the Ministries of Defence and Ministry of Interior will be under direct military control and a 3 month state of emergency is in place.

So great to hear that words, lets hope the stick by the promise

Color me skeptical on this, but we'll see.

[American Pere Housh]

Its about time this happened. He should have been deposed awhile back.

[Minoa]

It is important for Sudan to be a free democracy at the same standard as the west: a strong and stable democracy is an important goal to constructively resolve the causes of the migrant and refugee crisis, and demonstrate to them that there is a future in Africa.

[Cerinda]

Protesters are in talks with military leaders:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... ary-rulers

[San Lumen]

Protesters are in talks with military leaders:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... ary-rulers

This might very well end up with a democratic Sudan

[North German Realm]

Protesters are in talks with military leaders:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... ary-rulers

The Sudanese military just loves to go against the tropes, doesn't it?

[San Lumen]

Protesters are in talks with military leaders:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... ary-rulers

The Sudanese military just loves to go against the tropes, doesn't it?

Sudan is a very different country from Egypt

[Thermodolia]

The Sudanese military just loves to go against the tropes, doesn't it?

Sudan is a very different country from Egypt

Why do you continue to bring up Egypt what the fuck do you have against them?

[San Lumen]

Sudan is a very different country from Egypt

Why do you continue to bring up Egypt what the fuck do you have against them?

nothing whatsoever but its a great example of what often happens after a military coup

[Duhon]

Protesters are in talks with military leaders:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... ary-rulers

The Sudanese military just loves to go against the tropes, doesn't it?

Reversion to the mean, but --

[Far Easter Republic]

It is important for Sudan to be a free democracy at the same standard as the west: a strong and stable democracy is an important goal to constructively resolve the causes of the migrant and refugee crisis, and demonstrate to them that there is a future in Africa.

But it's probably going to become a military junta that will tell the protesters to pound salt.

[Far Easter Republic]

South Sudan has fought 2 wars to achieve its independence so I really doubt it's going to let its former oppressor to roll in and take it away. If Sudan does invade the south then not only will both the rebels and government stop their fighting and unite together against the invading forces but the UN and especially the US will tolerate their ally being invaded and will most likely send troops to aid them. So a war will literally achieve nothing apart from more death and destruction.

Their "ally" tried to kill the US Ambassador and had US aid workers raped and killed.

The incident may have been never received much coverage due the elections but could easily have ended in a Benghazi 2.0

And Trump does not want to send troops into a crap war right after he got out of Syria.

[Thermodolia]

Why do you continue to bring up Egypt what the fuck do you have against them?

nothing whatsoever but its a great example of what often happens after a military coup

No it’s not. The military has no control over Egypt anymore. Unlike Thailand.

Also in 2022 we’ll see if your prediction is correct or not. As that’s when Egypt has its first unopposed Presidential elections

[Duhon]

nothing whatsoever but its a great example of what often happens after a military coup

No it’s not. The military has no control over Egypt anymore. Unlike Thailand.

Grain of salt, there there.

[Thermodolia]

No it’s not. The military has no control over Egypt anymore. Unlike Thailand.

Grain of salt, there there.

You can keep your head in the sand as long as you like.

[Griemvarant]

There is exactly zero chance of the US sending troops to Sudan to protect anyone. First, it has no troops to spare; second, the Colluder-in-Chief has no interest in African "s--thole countries." Sorry mate.

Allow a fellow poster to clarify things:

Their "ally" tried to kill the US Ambassador and had US aid workers raped and killed.

The incident may have been never received much coverage due the elections but could easily have ended in a Benghazi 2.0

[Cerinda]

AU is threatening of revoking Sudan's membership:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/16/afri ... index.html