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by United Muscovite Nations » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:46 am
by San Lumen » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:47 am
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I don't like Al-Bashir, but it's very jarring to see someone in power for so long be forced out so quickly, and I worry about what this means.
by Kowani » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:48 am
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I don't like Al-Bashir, but it's very jarring to see someone in power for so long be forced out so quickly, and I worry about what this means.
by New Sukberia » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:50 am
Heloin wrote:San Lumen wrote:The keys?
Probably referencing CGP Grey's Rules for Rulers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs
by United Muscovite Nations » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:51 am
by Nerovia » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:01 pm
Heloin wrote:We're drifting away from the Coup in Sudan everyone, let's get back to that.
by Cerinda » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:15 pm
Nerovia wrote:Wow, I didn’t expect this to happen out of the blue. It reminded me of communist Romania’s Nicolae Ceausescu of how he was in power for years and just like that it’s all over.Heloin wrote:We're drifting away from the Coup in Sudan everyone, let's get back to that.
Speaking of Sudan, how are world leaders reacting to this coup and will it have any affect to the conflict in Darfur?
Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:As always, she and her inbred minions will be fine whilst the rest of us get our arseholes annexed by the might of the Tory thundercock.
by Cerinda » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:59 pm
Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:As always, she and her inbred minions will be fine whilst the rest of us get our arseholes annexed by the might of the Tory thundercock.
by Shofercia » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:29 pm
San Lumen wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-47891470
Longtime President of Sudan Omar al Bashir who has ruled since 1989 has been removed via a military coup according to the military. There have been protests for several months calling for his removal. Over the years Bashir has been become increasingly dictatorial and has been accused of outright fraud in national elections and suppressed opposition. His current location is unknown
Defense Minister Awad Ibn Ouf said a state of emergency has been put in place and says the military will oversee two year transition period followed by elections. He apologized for the dictatorial nature of the regime and released all political prisoners.
While it is good news he's been removed after what happened in Egypt I'm skeptical of Sudan becoming a free republic. Its rare for the military to fully relinquish power after a coup but we will have to wait and see.
Your thoughts on this NSG?
by US-SSR » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:14 pm
by Thermodolia » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:39 pm
San Lumen wrote:Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:"Trust me guys, we'll have elections eventually, just not right now" tends to be synonymous with "I'm never going to hold elections, but I'll tell you that I am so that you won't rebel". Military officers aren't elected, so it's not surprising that they aren't often comfortable with the idea of being voted out of office.
It does take time after a dictatorship to prepare for free and fair elections. Lets not be so cynical it only happened today. Sudan and Egypt are very different from each other.
by Badb Catha » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:44 pm
San Lumen wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-47891470
Longtime President of Sudan Omar al Bashir who has ruled since 1989 has been removed via a military coup according to the military. There have been protests for several months calling for his removal. Over the years Bashir has been become increasingly dictatorial and has been accused of outright fraud in national elections and suppressed opposition. His current location is unknown
Defense Minister Awad Ibn Ouf said a state of emergency has been put in place and says the military will oversee two year transition period followed by elections. He apologized for the dictatorial nature of the regime and released all political prisoners.
While it is good news he's been removed after what happened in Egypt I'm skeptical of Sudan becoming a free republic. Its rare for the military to fully relinquish power after a coup but we will have to wait and see.
Your thoughts on this NSG?
by Thermodolia » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:46 pm
by Novus America » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:17 pm
by Yanitza » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:30 pm
US-SSR wrote:
According to the Guardian the Sudanese demonstrators aren't buying it. There's a distinct possibility this is a "self-coup" designed to keep the regime, with or without Bashir, in power.
by San Lumen » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:30 pm
by San Lumen » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:49 pm
Heloin wrote:San Lumen wrote:He was chosen in a free and fair election and the people of Egypt could have voted Morsi out in the next election. The second coup has made the country even worse than it was under Mubarak
To be fair to the Egyptian military in 2013, Morsi had effectively just given himself unlimited presidential powers just before they through him out.
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by Heloin » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:05 pm
San Lumen wrote:Heloin wrote:To be fair to the Egyptian military in 2013, Morsi had effectively just given himself unlimited presidential powers just before they through him out.
and they could have voted him out in the next election. The new regime is even worse than Mubarak's. Hopefully Sudan doesnt go down the same dark path. They might not as they are different countries with different histories and demographics
by San Lumen » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:09 pm
Heloin wrote:San Lumen wrote:
and they could have voted him out in the next election. The new regime is even worse than Mubarak's. Hopefully Sudan doesnt go down the same dark path. They might not as they are different countries with different histories and demographics
They couldn't have, he was effectively making himself president for life. I'm not saying the coup against him was the best action for Egypt, but in that one case letting Morsi remain in power probably would have just ended in a Muslim Brotherhood lead dictatorship.
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