Assange wanted on new charges; Espionage (US) and rape (Swe)

[Gormwood]

Big ol' nuts to that. Time on the run shouldn't count as time served just because he chose to run into a small box and hide there for seven years.

They will not let him off that easy, afterall he is not smollett.

A cheap shot that fails considering it's not Chicago trying Assange.

[Gormwood]

When you phrase it like that I'm starting to think maybe running into the embassy was a bad idea. I mean, if he was only hit with the sealed indictment back in 2012 he would be two years free.

Kind of funny in a bittersweet ironic way. He played himself.

If he'd just accepted extradition to Sweden he'd have been held in a prison there, conditions positively luxurious compared to what he's been enjoying the last seven years, and the odds of the Swedish authorities extraditing him to the US seem near zero.

If he was paranoid about Sweden handing him over to the U.S. then he was unhinged way before his Pablo Picacasso phase.

[Ethel mermania]

They will not let him off that easy, afterall he is not smollett.

A cheap shot that fails considering it's not Chicago trying Assange.

I thought the cheap shot worked pretty well. That it's not analogous works is fine as it wasn't directed at iffy or a point he 2as making. So it really wasn't an arguement in a debate.

And it sorta fits, as the US doesnt like assage and is itching to get after him. I am mildly approving of wikileaks. The Panama papers was a big positive. I am not crazy about the guy personally, but the message of this is to chill the press. And the Chicago DA is in smollet's favor.

Full disclosure: I do believe manning belongs in jail. She signed up to non disclose, assage never did.

[Valrifell]

A cheap shot that fails considering it's not Chicago trying Assange.

I thought the cheap shot worked pretty well. That it's not analogous works is fine as it wasn't directed at iffy or a point he 2as making. So it really wasn't an arguement in a debate.

And it sorta fits, as the US doesnt like assage and is itching to get after him. I am mildly approving of wikileaks. The Panama papers was a big positive. I am not crazy about the guy personally, but the message of this is to chill the press. And the Chicago DA is in smollet's favor.

Full disclosure: I do believe manning belongs in jail. She signed up to non disclose, assage never did.

Assange is being charged with the leaking, he's being charged with the hacking.

[Ethel mermania]

I thought the cheap shot worked pretty well. That it's not analogous works is fine as it wasn't directed at iffy or a point he 2as making. So it really wasn't an arguement in a debate.

And it sorta fits, as the US doesnt like assage and is itching to get after him. I am mildly approving of wikileaks. The Panama papers was a big positive. I am not crazy about the guy personally, but the message of this is to chill the press. And the Chicago DA is in smollet's favor.

Full disclosure: I do believe manning belongs in jail. She signed up to non disclose, assage never did.

Assange is being charged with the leaking, he's being charged with the hacking.

According to the indictment He didnt hack anything, he encouraged manning to continue to look for documents.

This is payback for exposing the US goverment secrets, and the govt is sending a strong message, be a whistleblower, and we are coming after you.

[Valrifell]

Assange is being charged with the leaking, he's being charged with the hacking.

According to the indictment He didnt hack anything, he encouraged manning to continue to look for documents.

This is payback for exposing the US goverment secrets, and the govt is sending a strong message, be a whistleblower, and we are coming after you.

You're not wrong, but we don't even know if he'll get to the US.

[Ethel mermania]

According to the indictment He didnt hack anything, he encouraged manning to continue to look for documents.

This is payback for exposing the US goverment secrets, and the govt is sending a strong message, be a whistleblower, and we are coming after you.

You're not wrong, but we don't even know if he'll get to the US.

I dont know how extradition works in Europe. I am pretty sure He can fight extradition for years through the British court system, and after that I think he can appeal to one of the European high courts. It will be interesting.

[Gravlen]

You're not wrong, but we don't even know if he'll get to the US.

I dont know how extradition works in Europe. I am pretty sure He can fight extradition for years through the British court system, and after that I think he can appeal to one of the European high courts. It will be interesting.

His previous legal fight over extradition to Sweden took about 18 months, and there's been extradition cases which have lasted for years. So yeah, this can easily take a while.

If you refer to the possibility to complain to the ECtHR, it should be noted that it's not a given that he gets a stay of execution while they look into his complaint, if he should lodge one.

[Elwher]

You're not wrong, but we don't even know if he'll get to the US.

I dont know how extradition works in Europe. I am pretty sure He can fight extradition for years through the British court system, and after that I think he can appeal to one of the European high courts. It will be interesting.

If Brexit goes through, can he still appeal to the European High Court?

[Elwher]

If he had been charged with publishing the leaked material, that would be problematic given the Pentagon Papers case. However, all he is charged with is assisting and encouraging the hacking of a secure server. I have no problem with charging any hacker whose lack of competence leads to his being caught.

[Vassenor]

I dont know how extradition works in Europe. I am pretty sure He can fight extradition for years through the British court system, and after that I think he can appeal to one of the European high courts. It will be interesting.

If Brexit goes through, can he still appeal to the European High Court?

Given that the courts are an organ of the Council of Europe and not the EU? Yes.

[Ifreann]

I dont know how extradition works in Europe. I am pretty sure He can fight extradition for years through the British court system, and after that I think he can appeal to one of the European high courts. It will be interesting.

If Brexit goes through, can he still appeal to the European High Court?

It's the European Court of Human Rights(ECtHR) and it is not an EU institution.

[Ethel mermania]

If Brexit goes through, can he still appeal to the European High Court?

It's the European Court of Human Rights(ECtHR) and it is not an EU institution.

So the answer is "yes".

Are the national court systems bound to listen to the ecthr?

[Vassenor]

It's the European Court of Human Rights(ECtHR) and it is not an EU institution.

So the answer is "yes".

Are the national court systems bound to listen to the ecthr?

Yes, it's considered the highest and final court of appeal in the UK.

The fact it's binding for us is something the government really hates because it makes it hard to kick people they consider undesirable out of the country.

[Chan Island]

Can we spare a moment to mention just how much worse for wear the man looked in the footage of him being dragged out? That guy has clearly been lacking for sun light.

[Bienenhalde]

I don’t recall what he did, something about leaking secret US war crimes or something.

Probably a hero at any rate.

Assange is a Salafist terrorist collaborator. He is a terrible person and he deserves severe punishment for his crimes.

[The Grims]

I don’t recall what he did, something about leaking secret US war crimes or something.

Probably a hero at any rate.

Assange is a Salafist terrorist collaborator. He is a terrible person and he deserves severe punishment for his crimes.

Is he a worse person than the US soldiers in that helicopter ?

[Elwher]

Assange is a Salafist terrorist collaborator. He is a terrible person and he deserves severe punishment for his crimes.

Is he a worse person than the US soldiers in that helicopter ?

He is a hacker, and worse, an incompetent one. Good hackers are not caught, and those I have some respect for.

[Pope Joan]

Telling the truth is clearly treason, in present day America.

Freedom of conscience is humanity's most basic right; without it, we have little hope.

[Gormwood]

Amazing how a narcissistic douchebag with an agenda can be hailed as a hero of freedom just because something he helped leak confirmed people's biases of the United States. This is the same guy whose organization outed numerous gay Saudis.

[Pope Joan]

Amazing how a narcissistic douchebag with an agenda can be hailed as a hero of freedom just because something he helped leak confirmed people's biases of the United States. This is the same guy whose organization outed numerous gay Saudis.

ad hominem. Truth is truth

[Vassenor]

Telling the truth is clearly treason, in present day America.

Freedom of conscience is humanity's most basic right; without it, we have little hope.

Where did treason come up? It's not anywhere in the indictment.

[Gormwood]

Amazing how a narcissistic douchebag with an agenda can be hailed as a hero of freedom just because something he helped leak confirmed people's biases of the United States. This is the same guy whose organization outed numerous gay Saudis.

ad hominem. Truth is truth

No bigger truth than the publicized names of gay Saudis.

[Vassenor]

ad hominem. Truth is truth

No bigger truth than the publicized names of gay Saudis.

Or the intelligence assets he compromised.

[Gormwood]

No bigger truth than the publicized names of gay Saudis.

Or the intelligence assets he compromised.

But he thumbed Uncle Sam's eye one time so he's forevermore a hero unjustly persecuted.