A cheap shot that fails considering it's not Chicago trying Assange.
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by Gormwood » Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:26 pm
by Gormwood » Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:37 pm
Ifreann wrote:Valrifell wrote:
When you phrase it like that I'm starting to think maybe running into the embassy was a bad idea. I mean, if he was only hit with the sealed indictment back in 2012 he would be two years free.
Kind of funny in a bittersweet ironic way. He played himself.
If he'd just accepted extradition to Sweden he'd have been held in a prison there, conditions positively luxurious compared to what he's been enjoying the last seven years, and the odds of the Swedish authorities extraditing him to the US seem near zero.
by Ethel mermania » Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:19 pm
by Valrifell » Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:39 pm
Ethel mermania wrote:Gormwood wrote:A cheap shot that fails considering it's not Chicago trying Assange.
I thought the cheap shot worked pretty well. That it's not analogous works is fine as it wasn't directed at iffy or a point he 2as making. So it really wasn't an arguement in a debate.
And it sorta fits, as the US doesnt like assage and is itching to get after him. I am mildly approving of wikileaks. The Panama papers was a big positive. I am not crazy about the guy personally, but the message of this is to chill the press. And the Chicago DA is in smollet's favor.
Full disclosure: I do believe manning belongs in jail. She signed up to non disclose, assage never did.
by Ethel mermania » Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:47 pm
Valrifell wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:I thought the cheap shot worked pretty well. That it's not analogous works is fine as it wasn't directed at iffy or a point he 2as making. So it really wasn't an arguement in a debate.
And it sorta fits, as the US doesnt like assage and is itching to get after him. I am mildly approving of wikileaks. The Panama papers was a big positive. I am not crazy about the guy personally, but the message of this is to chill the press. And the Chicago DA is in smollet's favor.
Full disclosure: I do believe manning belongs in jail. She signed up to non disclose, assage never did.
Assange is being charged with the leaking, he's being charged with the hacking.
by Valrifell » Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:31 pm
Ethel mermania wrote:Valrifell wrote:
Assange is being charged with the leaking, he's being charged with the hacking.
According to the indictment He didnt hack anything, he encouraged manning to continue to look for documents.
This is payback for exposing the US goverment secrets, and the govt is sending a strong message, be a whistleblower, and we are coming after you.
by Ethel mermania » Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:56 pm
Valrifell wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:According to the indictment He didnt hack anything, he encouraged manning to continue to look for documents.
This is payback for exposing the US goverment secrets, and the govt is sending a strong message, be a whistleblower, and we are coming after you.
You're not wrong, but we don't even know if he'll get to the US.
by Gravlen » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:33 am
Ethel mermania wrote:Valrifell wrote:
You're not wrong, but we don't even know if he'll get to the US.
I dont know how extradition works in Europe. I am pretty sure He can fight extradition for years through the British court system, and after that I think he can appeal to one of the European high courts. It will be interesting.
by Elwher » Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:55 am
Ethel mermania wrote:Valrifell wrote:
You're not wrong, but we don't even know if he'll get to the US.
I dont know how extradition works in Europe. I am pretty sure He can fight extradition for years through the British court system, and after that I think he can appeal to one of the European high courts. It will be interesting.
by Elwher » Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:58 am
by Vassenor » Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:58 am
Elwher wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:I dont know how extradition works in Europe. I am pretty sure He can fight extradition for years through the British court system, and after that I think he can appeal to one of the European high courts. It will be interesting.
If Brexit goes through, can he still appeal to the European High Court?
by Ifreann » Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:58 am
Elwher wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:I dont know how extradition works in Europe. I am pretty sure He can fight extradition for years through the British court system, and after that I think he can appeal to one of the European high courts. It will be interesting.
If Brexit goes through, can he still appeal to the European High Court?
by Ethel mermania » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:30 am
by Vassenor » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:33 am
by Chan Island » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:51 am
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Bienenhalde » Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:17 am
Soviet-American Combine wrote:I don’t recall what he did, something about leaking secret US war crimes or something.
Probably a hero at any rate.
by Elwher » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:07 pm
by Gormwood » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:03 pm
by Pope Joan » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:09 pm
Gormwood wrote:Amazing how a narcissistic douchebag with an agenda can be hailed as a hero of freedom just because something he helped leak confirmed people's biases of the United States. This is the same guy whose organization outed numerous gay Saudis.
by Vassenor » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:09 pm
Pope Joan wrote:Telling the truth is clearly treason, in present day America.
Freedom of conscience is humanity's most basic right; without it, we have little hope.
by Gormwood » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:10 pm
by Vassenor » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:11 pm
by Gormwood » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:13 pm
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