NYC declares public health emergency thanks to anti vaxxers

[Lowercasist]

Sources: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/10/nyregion/newyorktoday/nyc-news-measles-outbreak-brooklyn.html

https://youtu.be/tV1S5mKN_b8?t=352


So in Rockland county located in New York a public health emergency was declared due to measles outbreak thanks to anti vaxxers. Well now New York City has followed suit due to measles outbreak as well. The cause is sadly obvious. Anti vaxxers. There are around 285 confirmed cases there compared to only 2 in New York city.

I am not surprised about this. Anti Vaxxers have proven time and time again that they are a threat and this just helps show that. This crackdown includes mandating people in four different zip codes get vaccinated or be fined among other things.

I am personally happy to see crackdowns beginning on anti vaxxers. Their ignorance does harm others and they are a threat. Personally I would hope for more crackdowns in the future.

But to my fellow inhabitants of NSG what do you think about this?

I lived in rockland at one point, parents have a brain at least, rockland has the majority of the cases there's not even 500 at last check/hearing about it

[Lowercasist]

Anti-vaxxers are why we need mandatory vaccinations. “If it’s a good idea (in this case vaccination), then it doesn’t need force” is refuted by anti-vaxxers and other deluded individuals. Good on NYC for cracking down on them.

Spoiling a issue for ya, there's an issue about anti-vaxers and an option makes vaccines mandatory

[Xmara]

Anti-vaxxers are why we need mandatory vaccinations. “If it’s a good idea (in this case vaccination), then it doesn’t need force” is refuted by anti-vaxxers and other deluded individuals. Good on NYC for cracking down on them.

Spoiling a issue for ya, there's an issue about anti-vaxers and an option makes vaccines mandatory

General is OOC

[Greater Medwedia]

The government is covering up the sh*t they put into their vaccines. Doctor Broadstreet proved the link between vaccines and autism just to “commit suicide” mysteriously.

http://vaxxedthemovie.com/
http://www.thrivemovement.com/who-killi ... rs-and-why

[New Sukberia]

The government is covering up the sh*t they put into their vaccines. Doctor Broadstreet proved the link between vaccines and autism just to “commit suicide” mysteriously.

http://vaxxedthemovie.com/
http://www.thrivemovement.com/who-killi ... rs-and-why

Sure.

[Estanglia]

The government is covering up the sh*t they put into their vaccines. Doctor Broadstreet proved the link between vaccines and autism just to “commit suicide” mysteriously.

http://vaxxedthemovie.com/
http://www.thrivemovement.com/who-killi ... rs-and-why

Your first link is hearsay.

Second is a damn conspiracy.

Yeah, no. They don't cause autism.

Because it seems strange that 91.5% of American children aged 19-35 months have the MMR vaccine, and there are about 20 million under 5s in the US, making up about 16% of the American population, yet only 3.5 million Americans are autistic, or 0.01%. And that is of all age groups, not just 19-35-month-old children or under 5s.

Assuming that the 16-month group that were examined were 6 million people, and that the amount of autistic people is spread evenly across the categories between under 5s and 45-49 (so there would be 350,000 people per age group and about 70,000 people per year, meaning there would be 105,000 people in our 6 million earlier), the percentage of people with autism in our 6 million would be... 1.75%. The vaccinated population in this group is 5,490,000, so the percentage of autistic people in this group (assuming a) no unvaccinated kid had autism and b) that vaccines cause autism) would be... 1.9%. Even if we assume that triple the number of autistic people guessed above existed in this group, that only increases the percentage to 5.7%. Assuming vaccines cause autism, they do it with such a small percentage of people.

And you're gonna hit me with the "but the number of autism diagnoses has been increasing!". Yeah, from 1999. Considering the MMR vaccine was developed in 1971, the rise should have come a lot earlier.

Unfortunately, I couldn't find a study breaking down how many people in each age group are autistic, hence the assumptions. I also put this much effort into this post because I hate it when people peddle this lie that vaccines cause autism. It treats death from something like measles as more desirable than being autistic, which is disgusting.

Edit to fix my URLs

[Petrolheadia]

The government is covering up the sh*t they put into their vaccines. Doctor Broadstreet proved the link between vaccines and autism just to “commit suicide” mysteriously.

http://vaxxedthemovie.com/
http://www.thrivemovement.com/who-killi ... rs-and-why

Your first link is hearsay.

Second is a damn conspiracy.

Yeah, no. They don't cause autism.

Because it seems strange that 91.5% of American children aged 19-35 months have the MMR vaccine, and there are about 20 million under 5s in the US, making up about 16% of the American population, yet only 3.5 million Americans are autistic, or 0.01%. And that is of all age groups, not just 19-35-month-old children or under 5s.

Assuming that the 16-month group that were examined were 6 million people, and that the amount of autistic people is spread evenly across the categories between under 5s and 45-49 (so there would be 350,000 people per age group and about 70,000 people per year, meaning there would be 105,000 people in our 6 million earlier), the percentage of people with autism in our 6 million would be... 1.75%. The vaccinated population in this group is 5,490,000, so the percentage of autistic people in this group (assuming a) no unvaccinated kid had autism and b) that vaccines cause autism) would be... 1.9%. Even if we assume that triple the number of autistic people guessed above existed in this group, that only increases the percentage to 5.7%. Assuming vaccines cause autism, they do it with such a small percentage of people.

And you're gonna hit me with the "but the number of autism diagnoses has been increasing!". Yeah, from 1999. Considering the MMR vaccine was developed in 1971, the rise should have come a lot earlier.

Unfortunately, I couldn't find a study breaking down how many people in each age group are autistic, hence the assumptions. I also put this much effort into this post because I hate it when people peddle this lie that vaccines cause autism. It treats death from something like measles as more desirable than being autistic, which is disgusting.

Edit to fix my URLs

What makes it even less trustworthy is how, instead of suggesting how vaccines could be changed, they push their own "medicine".

Given that, it's as trustworthy as a seven-dollar bill.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

The government is covering up the sh*t they put into their vaccines. Doctor Broadstreet proved the link between vaccines and autism just to “commit suicide” mysteriously.

http://vaxxedthemovie.com/
http://www.thrivemovement.com/who-killi ... rs-and-why

No he didn't beacuse they dont. At all.

They never will.

Not only do I have aspergers beacuse my moms parents didnt get vaccinated for the german measles, the idea that haveing measles is better then being autistic is insulting.

[Hammer Britannia]

I would like to point out the fact that, even if Vaccines cause Autism (which they logically don't, because Autism develops while in the womb and can't be caused by an outside force once they are born) it's still better to vaccinate your kids because of... well...

This.

Also, Polio.

[Gormwood]

The government is covering up the sh*t they put into their vaccines. Doctor Broadstreet proved the link between vaccines and autism just to “commit suicide” mysteriously.

http://vaxxedthemovie.com/
http://www.thrivemovement.com/who-killi ... rs-and-why

Rather convenient that an account created yesterday is spewing antivaccination propaganda.

[Gormwood]

Your first link is hearsay.

Second is a damn conspiracy.

Yeah, no. They don't cause autism.

Because it seems strange that 91.5% of American children aged 19-35 months have the MMR vaccine, and there are about 20 million under 5s in the US, making up about 16% of the American population, yet only 3.5 million Americans are autistic, or 0.01%. And that is of all age groups, not just 19-35-month-old children or under 5s.

Assuming that the 16-month group that were examined were 6 million people, and that the amount of autistic people is spread evenly across the categories between under 5s and 45-49 (so there would be 350,000 people per age group and about 70,000 people per year, meaning there would be 105,000 people in our 6 million earlier), the percentage of people with autism in our 6 million would be... 1.75%. The vaccinated population in this group is 5,490,000, so the percentage of autistic people in this group (assuming a) no unvaccinated kid had autism and b) that vaccines cause autism) would be... 1.9%. Even if we assume that triple the number of autistic people guessed above existed in this group, that only increases the percentage to 5.7%. Assuming vaccines cause autism, they do it with such a small percentage of people.

And you're gonna hit me with the "but the number of autism diagnoses has been increasing!". Yeah, from 1999. Considering the MMR vaccine was developed in 1971, the rise should have come a lot earlier.

Unfortunately, I couldn't find a study breaking down how many people in each age group are autistic, hence the assumptions. I also put this much effort into this post because I hate it when people peddle this lie that vaccines cause autism. It treats death from something like measles as more desirable than being autistic, which is disgusting.

Edit to fix my URLs

What makes it even less trustworthy is how, instead of suggesting how vaccines could be changed, they push their own "medicine".

Given that, it's as trustworthy as a seven-dollar bill.

I heard Andrew Wakefield published the discredited "study" with the agenda of selling his own brand of vaccines.

[Novus America]

I would like to point out the fact that, even if Vaccines cause Autism (which they logically don't, because Autism develops while in the womb and can't be caused by an outside force once they are born) it's still better to vaccinate your kids because of... well...

This.

Also, Polio.

Also I would like to note while autism rates have been raising (probably due to new diagnostic criteria combined with the lack of a bright line test) vaccination rates have been FALLING while AUTISM rates rise!
Not only do that anti-Vaxxers not have causation, they actually have INVERSE causation!

More autism correlates (again no causation) with decreased vaccination!

Sure correlations is not causation (it is not here either, fewer vaccines are not causing autism rates to rise) but if you have inverse correlation that does generally indicate a lack of causation.

[Thermodolia]

I say go ahead with no vaccines. I know that vaccines save lives and prevent disease, but I also know that overpopulation is a problem.

Actually overpopulation isn’t as big as a problem as you might think. The actual problem is lack of resources due to with unsustainable practices or corrupt leaders.

If we needed to we could technically fit the entire world population in Africa with tons of room to spare

[Flawless Walruses]

I say go ahead with no vaccines. I know that vaccines save lives and prevent disease, but I also know that overpopulation is a problem.

Actually overpopulation isn’t as big as a problem as you might think. The actual problem is lack of resources due to with unsustainable practices or corrupt leaders.

If we needed to we could technically fit the entire world population in Africa with tons of room to spare

Since every human society documented has had unsustainable practices and corrupt leaders, overpopulation is a problem. Maybe the problem, since it makes everything else harder to solve.

Unless you have the political equivalent of a perpetual motion machine...

[Xmara]

The government is covering up the sh*t they put into their vaccines. Doctor Broadstreet proved the link between vaccines and autism just to “commit suicide” mysteriously.

http://vaxxedthemovie.com/
http://www.thrivemovement.com/who-killi ... rs-and-why

Your first link is hearsay.

Second is a damn conspiracy.

Yeah, no. They don't cause autism.

Because it seems strange that 91.5% of American children aged 19-35 months have the MMR vaccine, and there are about 20 million under 5s in the US, making up about 16% of the American population, yet only 3.5 million Americans are autistic, or 0.01%. And that is of all age groups, not just 19-35-month-old children or under 5s.

Assuming that the 16-month group that were examined were 6 million people, and that the amount of autistic people is spread evenly across the categories between under 5s and 45-49 (so there would be 350,000 people per age group and about 70,000 people per year, meaning there would be 105,000 people in our 6 million earlier), the percentage of people with autism in our 6 million would be... 1.75%. The vaccinated population in this group is 5,490,000, so the percentage of autistic people in this group (assuming a) no unvaccinated kid had autism and b) that vaccines cause autism) would be... 1.9%. Even if we assume that triple the number of autistic people guessed above existed in this group, that only increases the percentage to 5.7%. Assuming vaccines cause autism, they do it with such a small percentage of people.

And you're gonna hit me with the "but the number of autism diagnoses has been increasing!". Yeah, from 1999. Considering the MMR vaccine was developed in 1971, the rise should have come a lot earlier.

Unfortunately, I couldn't find a study breaking down how many people in each age group are autistic, hence the assumptions. I also put this much effort into this post because I hate it when people peddle this lie that vaccines cause autism. It treats death from something like measles as more desirable than being autistic, which is disgusting.

Edit to fix my URLs

Also, check out these massive studies on autism and the MMR vaccine.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30831578
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/f ... le/2275444

[Petrolheadia]

What makes it even less trustworthy is how, instead of suggesting how vaccines could be changed, they push their own "medicine".

Given that, it's as trustworthy as a seven-dollar bill.

I heard Andrew Wakefield published the discredited "study" with the agenda of selling his own brand of vaccines.

Asking Wakefield about vaccines is like going to your local Mercedes dealer and asking him what he thinks about Audi's current range in terms of consumer advice.

[Thermodolia]

Actually overpopulation isn’t as big as a problem as you might think. The actual problem is lack of resources due to with unsustainable practices or corrupt leaders.

If we needed to we could technically fit the entire world population in Africa with tons of room to spare

Since every human society documented has had unsustainable practices and corrupt leaders, overpopulation is a problem. Maybe the problem, since it makes everything else harder to solve.

Unless you have the political equivalent of a perpetual motion machine...

Overpopulation is not the problem, hell its not even a problem. It’s the corrupt and greedy leadership and unsustainable practices that cause issues. Not the amount of people.

Even if we had less people in the world we’d still have the same problems we have now just with less people. So it stands to reason that we should go after the corrupt and greedy leadership and the unsustainable practices that greedy corporations use.

Those are the root of the problem. Overpopulation is a fucking myth

[Senkaku]

I say go ahead with no vaccines. I know that vaccines save lives and prevent disease, but I also know that overpopulation is a problem.

It's not, and if it were, there'd be better ways to deal with it than bioterrorism lmfao jesus christ

The Chinese did some fucked up shit for the One Child Policy but at least they didn't go "lol let's do a native reboot of Unit 731!!"

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I say go ahead with no vaccines. I know that vaccines save lives and prevent disease, but I also know that overpopulation is a problem.

It's not, and if it were, there'd be better ways to deal with it than bioterrorism lmfao jesus christ

The Chinese did some fucked up shit for the One Child Policy but at least they didn't go "lol let's do a native reboot of Unit 731!!"

Even if overpopulation were a thing, eliminating vaccines just to curb your population by letting them catch some pretty awful diseases seems rather fucked.

[Senkaku]

It's not, and if it were, there'd be better ways to deal with it than bioterrorism lmfao jesus christ

The Chinese did some fucked up shit for the One Child Policy but at least they didn't go "lol let's do a native reboot of Unit 731!!"

Even if overpopulation were a thing, eliminating vaccines just to curb your population by letting them catch some pretty awful diseases seems rather fucked.

If you're gonna actively cull the population to solve overpopulation there's def more humane ways to do it yah

i can't believe i just put those words together

"IF YOU'RE GONNA ACTIVELY CULL THE POPULATION TO SOLVE OVERPOPULATION" jesus fucking christ on a popsicle stick what the fucking fuckity fuck

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Even if overpopulation were a thing, eliminating vaccines just to curb your population by letting them catch some pretty awful diseases seems rather fucked.

If you're gonna actively cull the population to solve overpopulation there's def more humane ways to do it yah

i can't believe i just put those words together

"IF YOU'RE GONNA ACTIVELY CULL THE POPULATION TO SOLVE OVERPOPULATION" jesus fucking christ on a popsicle stick what the fucking fuckity fuck

Instaharsh!- But no worries, I understood the spirit of your post.