NYC declares public health emergency thanks to anti vaxxers

[Alvecia]

Do you just not agree with any medicine in general then?

Never said that.

That's why I asked

[Valrifell]

Why not?

While I am not anti vaccination disease is a form of population control in a way.

What's next mandatory blood donation?

These same arguments were used against the Agricultural Revolutions and feeding the hungry.

That is to say, your arguments are bad.

[Kowani]

eradication of all disease should not be a goal. Nor should medical decisions be mandatory

Why not?

While I am not anti vaccination disease is a form of population control in a way.[/quote]
Malthus, whose ideas have been discredited for centuries. Next.

What's next mandatory blood donation?

I wouldn’t be opposed, no.

[Marg bob]

Vaccines should be mandatory if you want your kid to go school or get Social Security or anything like that. No exceptions.

Some states do that

[Galloism]

What's next mandatory blood donation?

I wouldn’t be opposed, no.

Literally taking your blood in the service of the state.

Stay classy.

[Andsed]

Anyways I think the best way to fight anti vaxxers is not only deplatforming them but also if their kids gets a serious illness they could have been vaccinated against we fine the parents and require they take some sort of class that help explains the facts about vaccines and how they are not harmful. Also having schools require kids be vaccinated would also not be an awful idea.

[Xmara]

Good. Maybe this will be a wake up call and more states will start making vaccinations mandatory.

Vaccines should be mandatory if you want your kid to go school or get Social Security or anything like that. No exceptions.

Some states do that

It’s not that many states: West Virginia, Mississippi, and California are the only ones who do not accept personal or religious beliefs as reason for vaccine exemption.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/health/sch ... -laws.aspx

[San Lumen]

Anyways I think the best way to fight anti vaxxers is not only deplatforming them but also if their kids gets an illness they could have been vaccinated against we fine the parents and require they take some sort of class that help explains the facts about vaccines and how they are not harmful. Also having schools require kids be vaccinated would also not be an awful idea.

classes won't convince these people. Its like talking to a a flat earther

[Kowani]

I wouldn’t be opposed, no.

Literally taking your blood in the service of the state.

Stay classy.

Come on, you know me!

[Marg bob]

Good. Maybe this will be a wake up call and more states will start making vaccinations mandatory.

Some states do that

It’s not that many states: West Virginia, Mississippi, and California are the only ones who do not accept personal or religious beliefs as reason for vaccine exemption.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/health/sch ... -laws.aspx

Like I said some

[Senkaku]

Why not?

While I am not anti vaccination disease is a form of population control in a way.

So is shooting old people. That doesn't make that a good idea.

What's next mandatory blood donation?

"WHAT'S NEXT, [UNRELATED THING]?!", he shrieked hysterically

When vaccines where first introduced they where mandatory. I see no reason why they shouldn’t be mandatory again until we have fully eradicated said diseases.

eradication of all disease should not be a goal.

Why the flying fuck not

Nor should medical decisions be mandatory

"yeah, you know, we can give your baby these antibiotics so it doesn't drown in its own fluids, or like, not, it's really just up to you man, do what you feel"

I wouldn’t be opposed, no.

Literally taking your blood in the service of the state.

Stay classy.

In service of society- it's not really that bad an idea, it just seems a little like overkill.

[Valrifell]

You'll never take my freedom fluids, meatbags!

[Xmara]

Anyways I think the best way to fight anti vaxxers is not only deplatforming them but also if their kids gets an illness they could have been vaccinated against we fine the parents and require they take some sort of class that help explains the facts about vaccines and how they are not harmful. Also having schools require kids be vaccinated would also not be an awful idea.

classes won't convince these people. Its like talking to a a flat earther

It really is. I’ve been stupid enough to get into arguments with them in the YouTube comments section.

Usually they give up about 10 comments in, which is weird because most conspiracy types I’ve encountered are relentless and I’m usually the one quitting the argument.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Ah nothing like sheer human stupidity killing people

[Thermodolia]

Vaccination should be mandatory for children to go to School unless the child has actual legitimate medical reasons to not get some vaccinations.

This is absolutely mental, a load of anti science based shite.

Of course, that would just lead to more homeschooling.

I'm not sure that's what the world needs: more religious-based anti-scientific homeschooling...

I do think that certain vaccines should be mandatory (TB, measles, polio -- anything that could cause severe and life-limiting effects) -- allowing for medical exemptions -- but I'm not sure that homeschooling should be a get-out clause.

Ban homeschooling then. It tends to be a breeding ground for abuse and radicalization

[Gormwood]

Of course, that would just lead to more homeschooling.

I'm not sure that's what the world needs: more religious-based anti-scientific homeschooling...

I do think that certain vaccines should be mandatory (TB, measles, polio -- anything that could cause severe and life-limiting effects) -- allowing for medical exemptions -- but I'm not sure that homeschooling should be a get-out clause.

Ban homeschooling then. It tends to be a breeding ground for abuse and radicalization

At the very least impose standards and a license requirement.

[Thermodolia]

Why not?

While I am not anti vaccination disease is a form of population control in a way.

What's next mandatory blood donation?

Not mandatory but like organ donations it should be opt out

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Crack down on them if what they have are hookey reasons for not vaccinating their kids. (Some children have medical reasons for not getting vaccinated- rare medical exceptions) They put their kids and other children at risk.

[Gormwood]

While I am not anti vaccination disease is a form of population control in a way.

What's next mandatory blood donation?

Not mandatory but like organ donations it should be opt out

Opting out of blood donation doesn't cause resurgence of near-eradicated diseases either.

[Galloism]

Literally taking your blood in the service of the state.

Stay classy.

In service of society- it's not really that bad an idea, it just seems a little like overkill.

Really? Using someone's body against their will is "not really that bad an idea"?

[Badb Catha]

Why does the Federal Government continue to tolerate the blatant national health crisis that is the Anti-Vax Movement? It is a biological fifth column born out of ignorance and misinformation and it must be stopped before more innocent lives are lost to perfectly preventable diseases.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

When vaccines where first introduced they where mandatory. I see no reason why they shouldn’t be mandatory again until we have fully eradicated said diseases.

eradication of all disease should not be a goal. Nor should medical decisions be mandatory

Yes it should.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

My moms parents didn't get her vaccinated for german measles. She has a whole part of her brain that is dead tissue.

Her and her Autism from her birth made me get Aspergers. That Aspergers lead me to getting OCD.


Oh and both my mom and her fucking shitty parents were abusive.

Anti vaxxers are shitty stupid human beings.

Sounds like there's more than simply not vaccinating that makes them shitty. So, thanks for illustrating my point, chief.

At best it makes it a symptom of being a shitty human being.

[Jakker]

I've seen some namecalling being thrown around and calling a group of people "idiots", "stupid", and "delusional" is getting in the realm of actionable trolling. Feel free to express your opinions, but be mindful of following forum rules.

[Katganistan]

Okay after thinking of it mandatory vaccines may be taking things to far. I think a much better solution would have to be simply trying to fight the misinformation that vaccines are harmful. You knowing deplatofrming them and all that jazz.

Yeah, it's not working.
Which is why NYC apparently is not forcing people to vaccinate in the outbreak areas, but if they live, work or go to school there and are exposed to the virus, they will be fined $1k for each exposure until they are vaccinated.

With a family with multiple kids, that could get VERY costly, very quickly.