Iran's attempted terrorist attacks on the U.S. and Europe

[North German Realm]

The guy who's hated so much by the regime they've tried to hide everything about it, you mean. And yes. An Anti-religious militarist nationalist dictator may be necessary for Iran to survive the hell the new Qajars have thrown it into. Hell, even the Qajars didn't fuck up this much in their 200 years. It shames me to admit that democracy, at this stage, will only harm Iran but it is -sadly- the truth. We -the Iranians- need Pahlavis again. We specifically need a Reza Shah. Or else Iran will die in this very generation, either victim of secession and balkanization or as a concept.

A shit cycle, then, where any attempt at a democracy that will truly serve the Iranian people rather than imprison them is cockblocked, by monarch, by mullah, by Iranians and nationals alike --

If you say so. Iran needs reform and national rejuvenation (in the form of deislamification and education) before democracy can be implemented in a way that'll benefit us.

[United Muscovite Nations]

As Iranian I find this very offensive, I have family members who were tortured and killed by the Shah's regime, we don't want to be ruled by western puppets.

As an Iranian, I find your assumption that "We" don't want to be ruled by a monarchy even more offensive. You either don't live in Iran or live in a very small bubble.

That's awfully presumptuous.

[Kowani]

As an Iranian, I find your assumption that "We" don't want to be ruled by a monarchy even more offensive. You either don't live in Iran or live in a very small bubble.

That's awfully presumptuous.

It’s NSG.

[Kubra]

As Iranian I find this very offensive, I have family members who were tortured and killed by the Shah's regime, we don't want to be ruled by western puppets.

As an Iranian, I find your assumption that "We" don't want to be ruled by a monarchy even more offensive. You either don't live in Iran or live in a very small bubble.

As a canadian, I would spit on any who would say that canada *doesn't* want me as emperor of whole of world.

[North German Realm]

As an Iranian, I find your assumption that "We" don't want to be ruled by a monarchy even more offensive. You either don't live in Iran or live in a very small bubble.

That's awfully presumptuous.

Given there's literally no possible way of knowing otherwise (since, you know, you can't really trust the state-mandated polls and nobody has done any form of legitimate statistics-work over it here), you're either gonna take my word or leave it. Meanwhile, as an Iranian -and more importantly, someone from Gilan-, I very much believe the individual I responded to to be that isolated, given the only thing I know of him is that he waves the flag of the most hated break-away state in Gilan -maybe the third worst state in our history after the IRI and the Qajars- itself :/

[Fjordbjorg]

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[Josip-Broz]

Trump is an Isreali lobist. Iran is designated as a terrorist state becuase they are enemies of Israel. There is no single terrorist attack in Europe or Amerika linked to shia islam or iran.

[The Wiganese Islands]

F***ing hell.

Please don't swear in Forum 7.

[Arlenton]

For every terrorist attack they are a part of, lob a few ballistic missiles at Iran.

If you don't want to do an immediate invasion anyway.

[Bear Stearns]

The plan has always been Iran. Since '79 we've lost total control of the Straits of Hormuz.

The original plans for the War on Terror in the early 2000s included an invasion of Iran alongside the invasion of the Iraq. It is America's biggest imperial lure.

[Holy auxmite empire]

>iran
>"attempt"

>israel
> stealing tech selling to china
> taking our tax dollars to fund a failed space program and there shitty army
> hating europeans and arabs
> history of lying

who is the good guy

[Kowani]

>iran
>"attempt"

>israel
> stealing tech selling to china
> taking our tax dollars to fund a failed space program and there shitty army
> hating europeans and arabs
> history of lying

who is the good guy

In what world does Israel have a “shitty army.”

[Christian Confederation]

For every terrorist attack they are a part of, lob a few ballistic missiles at Iran.

If you don't want to do an immediate invasion anyway.

I second that

[North German Realm]

For every terrorist attack they are a part of, lob a few ballistic missiles at Iran.

If you don't want to do an immediate invasion anyway.

The thing about that is, Iran was -still is, if you think about it- so deep in the Russian Sphere of Influence that nobody actually knew who was calling the shots (until the disagreements about Syria started to pop up). Now that Israel's been fucking around with Iran's bases and manpower in Iraq and Syria for a year and they know Russia's not likely to actually come to Iran's defense, it is very likely for an invasion to happen in the near future.

[Nea Byzantia]

The plan has always been Iran. Since '79 we've lost total control of the Straits of Hormuz.

The original plans for the War on Terror in the early 2000s included an invasion of Iran alongside the invasion of the Iraq. It is America's biggest imperial lure.

Very true.

[Ther Sul Citzpacia]

Also The Taliban isn't part of Pakistan's military.

I think there is reliable proof that the taliban has infiltrated or has support in the pakistani military.

as far as iran is concerned - I believe a far bigger culprit is Saudi and that it's a bigger threat to the west.

Because they tried to spread their Shiite revolution in the 1980's to Iraq.

Although portrayed otherwise at the time, years later it was shown that Iraq was the one who started it.

[Outer Sparta]

The plan has always been Iran. Since '79 we've lost total control of the Straits of Hormuz.

The original plans for the War on Terror in the early 2000s included an invasion of Iran alongside the invasion of the Iraq. It is America's biggest imperial lure.

Iran has always been on the top of America's biggest targets, starting in 1954.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Also The Taliban isn't part of Pakistan's military.

I think there is reliable proof that the taliban has infiltrated or has support in the pakistani military.

as far as iran is concerned - I believe a far bigger culprit is Saudi and that it's a bigger threat to the west.

Because they tried to spread their Shiite revolution in the 1980's to Iraq.

Although portrayed otherwise at the time, years later it was shown that Iraq was the one who started it.

No it wasn't, Iran was shelling Iraqi border posts and had seized many, as well as violating Iraqi airspace over 200 times in the leadup to the war. Just because Iraq took the first major action of the war doesn't mean they started it. Iranian Revolutionary Guards also attempted to assassinate Deputy Prime Minister Tareq Aziz.

[Nea Byzantia]

I think there is reliable proof that the taliban has infiltrated or has support in the pakistani military.

as far as iran is concerned - I believe a far bigger culprit is Saudi and that it's a bigger threat to the west.



Although portrayed otherwise at the time, years later it was shown that Iraq was the one who started it.

No it wasn't, Iran was shelling Iraqi border posts and had seized many, as well as violating Iraqi airspace over 200 times in the leadup to the war. Just because Iraq took the first major action of the war doesn't mean they started it. Iranian Revolutionary Guards also attempted to assassinate Deputy Prime Minister Tareq Aziz.

But wasn't the United States edging Saddam into war with Iran in the first place? How did that whole war start anyways?

[North German Realm]

No it wasn't, Iran was shelling Iraqi border posts and had seized many, as well as violating Iraqi airspace over 200 times in the leadup to the war. Just because Iraq took the first major action of the war doesn't mean they started it. Iranian Revolutionary Guards also attempted to assassinate Deputy Prime Minister Tareq Aziz.

But wasn't the United States edging Saddam into war with Iran in the first place? How did that whole war start anyways?

On one hand, Saddam wanted to annex land (as per usual) but had been humiliated like the bitch he was by the Shah a few years prior, on the other hand post-Revolutionary Iran had tried to export revolution -by agitating the Shia, primarily- and then the whole assassination thing, and then there was the situation with an Iranian fighter breaching the border into Iraqi Air. The idea that "The US told Iraq to attack" is hilariously out of tone. If anyone could "Tell" a country oriented towards the USSR what to do, it would have to be the Soviets themselves.

[Technocratic Uganda]

Do you want total war? If necessary, do you want a war more total and radical than anything that we can even yet imagine? For peace and democracy in the Middle East, of course.

[Outer Sparta]

Do you want total war? If necessary, do you want a war more total and radical than anything that we can even yet imagine? For peace and democracy in the Middle East, of course.

Has the US ever promoted peace and democracy while intervening? Of course not. But to them, bombing Iran means liberation.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Are we at a war with Iran yet or is it just another "NSG thinks X thing will start war with Y"

[Outer Sparta]

Are we at a war with Iran yet or is it just another "NSG thinks X thing will start war with Y"

Perhaps both. America is itching to provoke Iran into a fight while NSG does NSG speculation shit.

[North German Realm]

Are we at a war with Iran yet or is it just another "NSG thinks X thing will start war with Y"

Kinda both. While NSG has jumped the gun with this one, the US has been moving troops around the country in a more rapid manner this last few months.