Eternal Lotharia wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
It's just going to be the Iraq war but as hard as the Afghanistan war.
Yay. More money and blood spend on not uniteing earth's governments via the UNPA and colonizing space.
Honestly Iraq could have gone well. We just f*cked it up badly.
But yeah, I may be staunchly Anti-Iran and Pro-Israel, but that war would be hell and a disaster.
WW3 would just be the tip of the iceberg of potential disastrous implications, even without WW3 it would be a horrible idea.
Keep in mind I want Iran to have a revolution. This just...no...this is a horrible idea....
The idea the Iraq war ended miserably is more of a myth than fact. When I ask people, by what metric did it get worse, most people can't tell you, it's just a general idea-of-an-idea that it got "bad" or "destabilized". I wrote up a thing on this a while ago, but the gist of it was, that Iraq was destabilizing, and then we invaded. Under Saddam's rule, Iraq was dominated by a highly oppressive and violent regime, who is believed to be responsible for the deaths of at least 500,000 people, and with the continued discoveries of mass graves possibly up to a million. Nearly 4.5 million refugees were created and millions more were left without food and water as the Iraq military deliberately shut off their water and electricity, and isolated Kurdish areas.
The U.S. invaded Iraq on March 20th, 2003, long after most of the horrific problems of Iraq had occurred. In 2002, Saddam had released virtually all the prisoners of the country, letting rapists, murderers, violent criminals and even terrorists roam the streets of his country. [1][2] The country's electricity had dropped from a 9300 megawatt capacity in 1990 to 3300 by early 2003 before the U.S. invasion, nearly a third, and rose to a 13,000 megawatt capacity as of 2016, after the U.S. intervention. [3][4] Saddam selectively cut off power to groups he was attempting to murder, such as the Kurds, and left them without food, water and electricity in a barren desert that was almost impossible to survive in without. Access to clean water had been reduced dramatically, and in 2004 only approximately 45% of rural areas had access to clean water and 96% in urban areas, compared to 77% in rural areas and 98% in urban areas in 2012, with a dramatic improvement in the quality of the water as well, particularly in regards to salt content, as well. [5][6] The country's GDP dropped abysmally from around 180 billion dollars a year in 1990 to almost zero by 2001, a full two years before the U.S. lead global invasion, and has since risen to between 180 and 230 billion per year as of 2010 and 2018, a nearly 1000% increase from the preceding years. [7][8] The country was destabilizing, and Iraq was encouraging it, by releasing prisoners, turning off the power, and generally murdering thousands of innocent civilians. Without an outside force to stabilize the region, it would have collapsed, necessitating an intervention and an other-throw of the existing Saddam government at the time. This was before any invasion had occurred, and after the invasion, by virtually every metric, the country improved dramatically, particularly in regards to stabilization.
