Islamic Discussion Thread ٥: Free Tajweed, Absolutely Halaal

[Arvenia]

Jews, Romani, Balts and Slavs.

You forgot a bunch of groups. The disabled, homosexuals, political opponents, etc.

As well as Catholics.

[Ansarullah]

It's also pretty disingenuous of you to go "I don't want to offend LGBT people" right after implying you agree with the Nazis killing homosexuals and then say you don't want to talk about your Holocaust denialism because a Jewish person showed up and you "don't want" to offend them.

Disingenuous how? Because I don't want to start anything else? Like I said, you all are the ones continuing this. I stated an opinion and defended it. You resorted to personal attacks on me as a person. I have done nothing.

[Celritannia]

everything else, I'm not invidually quoting them

I denied a genocide, I did not advocate for it.

Denying the genocide happened is just as bad as wanting it to happen.

Denying it means you want people to forget the victims, their families, how it affected the world.
It's disgusting and repugnant.

[Tarsonis]

English must not be your first language. The reference to Christianity and Judaism are comparisons, I said it's debated in Islam as well, which it is.

It's not. It's very clear cut.

That's your opinion, but the fact remains that Homosexuality is a widely debated topic with viewpoints that very not only at different times of history, but region, denomination, legal school, etc. You can pound your head into the sand and say "nu uh only real muslims think like i do." but that's just willful ignorance on your part.

Then, leave

I'll leave if I want to, you can't force me to. I've done nothing wrong here other than state an opinion. You are the one continuing this. You stop posting, I stop posting, we both go on with our day.

No. You don't get to decide where the conversation goes. You post an opinion, you're gonna be held to account for it. You don't get to cravenly say "i don't wanna go there" after advocating the death of people. If you don't have the fortitude to stand by your beliefs, then leave.

[Salus Maior]

There's no point to wasting time here.

[Immortan Khan]

It's also pretty disingenuous of you to go "I don't want to offend LGBT people" right after implying you agree with the Nazis killing homosexuals and then say you don't want to talk about your Holocaust denialism because a Jewish person showed up and you "don't want" to offend them.

Disingenuous how? Because I don't want to start anything else? Like I said, you all are the ones continuing this. I stated an opinion and defended it. You resorted to personal attacks on me as a person. I have done nothing.

All you're showing is cowardice at this point. You could have some respect earned if you at least owned your views and didn't try to scurry the convo away when people confronted them.

[Ansarullah]

Denying the genocide happened is just as bad as wanting it to happen.

Denying it means you want people to forget the victims, their families, how it affected the world.
It's disgusting and repugnant.

You want to continue this in your own echo chamber, feel free. I'm done repeating myself. TL:DR I'm sorry for anyone who's offended by what I said.
I've got better things to do than listen to this.

[Diarcesia]

Again, we have drifted enough from the topic. Better leave the dumpster fire to extinguish itself.

[Ansarullah]

No. You don't get to decide where the conversation goes. You post an opinion, you're gonna be held to account for it. You don't get to cravenly say "i don't wanna go there" after advocating the death of people. If you don't have the fortitude to stand by your beliefs, then leave.

I already discussed the opinion in as light a way as I could. It's not so much me not standing by my beliefs as it is me not wanting to start any more drama than I already have.

All you're showing is cowardice at this point. You could have some respect earned if you at least owned your views and didn't try to scurry the convo away when people confronted them.

I attempted to have a calm discussion about it. Then I realized that wasn't going to happen.

[Tarsonis]

Denying the genocide happened is just as bad as wanting it to happen.

Denying it means you want people to forget the victims, their families, how it affected the world.
It's disgusting and repugnant.

You want to continue this in your own echo chamber, feel free. I'm done repeating myself. TL:DR I'm sorry for anyone who's offended by what I said.
I've got better things to do than listen to this.

You're not sorry. Being sorry requires acknowledging you've done something wrong. You've been quite clear on your refusal to do so.

[Jolthig]

There's no point to wasting time here.

This.

Not everyone posts in good faith and that is why they post this nonsense in the first place.

[Ansarullah]

Again, we have drifted enough from the topic. Better leave the dumpster fire to extinguish itself.

Why I'm leaving for about an hour. I'll see if it's calmed down when I'm back.

[Arvenia]

Again, we have drifted enough from the topic. Better leave the dumpster fire to extinguish itself.

Yeah, this thread has been ruined.

[Ansarullah]

You're not sorry. Being sorry requires acknowledging you've done something wrong. You've been quite clear on your refusal to do so.

I'm sorry for the way I said it. I am not sorry for holding an opinion. You've done nothing to prove my opinion wrong other than insult it. I'd be willing to take you all seriously if you hadn't done so.

[Tarsonis]

No. You don't get to decide where the conversation goes. You post an opinion, you're gonna be held to account for it. You don't get to cravenly say "i don't wanna go there" after advocating the death of people. If you don't have the fortitude to stand by your beliefs, then leave.

I already discussed the opinion in as light a way as I could. It's not so much me not standing by my beliefs as it is me not wanting to start any more drama than I already have.

All you're showing is cowardice at this point. You could have some respect earned if you at least owned your views and didn't try to scurry the convo away when people confronted them.

I attempted to have a calm discussion about it. Then I realized that wasn't going to happen.

Oh I'm entirely calm. But I'm not gonna pull my punches anymore than you are.

[Ansarullah]

Yeah, this thread has been ruined.

There was an entire dumpster fire over El advocating for raping slaves, I think it'll be fine

[Arvenia]

Yeah, this thread has been ruined.

There was an entire dumpster fire over El advocating for raping slaves, I think it'll be fine

Who the hell is El?

[Ansarullah]

Oh I'm entirely calm. But I'm not gonna pull my punches anymore than you are.

No. You aren't. You called my religion repungant. You called Muslims a people who should be ostracized. I have not insulted anyone.

[Celritannia]

You're not sorry. Being sorry requires acknowledging you've done something wrong. You've been quite clear on your refusal to do so.

I'm sorry for the way I said it. I am not sorry for holding an opinion. You've done nothing to prove my opinion wrong other than insult it. I'd be willing to take you all seriously if you hadn't done so.

We've provided plenty of evidence that the holocaust happened and was real.

You continue to deny it for idiotic reasons. It's a wretched thought.

[Ansarullah]

There was an entire dumpster fire over El advocating for raping slaves, I think it'll be fine

Who the hell is El?

El Amin. Guy who made the thread. Basically a (N)ISIS supporter. Go to like page 3 iirc

[Diarcesia]

There was an entire dumpster fire over El advocating for raping slaves, I think it'll be fine

Who the hell is El?

OP of this thread. You can see his posts in this thread. And I'm not in the mood to discuss it either.

[Ansarullah]

We've provided plenty of evidence that the holocaust happened and was real.

You continue to deny it for idiotic reasons. It's a wretched thought.

You gave me Wikipedia. The same site that claims Muslims did 9/11, something I can prove false right now. The same site that claims (N)ISIS is Muslim, something I can prove false right now. I can keep going, that's not a good source nor are any of the Jewish-owned sources at the bottom of that page.

[Immortan Khan]

Who the hell is El?

El Amin. Guy who made the thread. Basically a (N)ISIS supporter. Go to like page 3 iirc

I mean you're on the pipeline to becoming like that, I don't think you have much ground to criticize him.

[Ansarullah]

Concubinage in Al-Islam. Just something I found in discord, a really great article to read about how to have Halaal sex with one's slave.

See here.

[Diarcesia]

We've provided plenty of evidence that the holocaust happened and was real.

You continue to deny it for idiotic reasons. It's a wretched thought.

You gave me Wikipedia. The same site that claims Muslims did 9/11, something I can prove false right now. The same site that claims (N)ISIS is Muslim, something I can prove false right now. I can keep going, that's not a good source nor are any of the Jewish-owned sources at the bottom of that page.

The entity people call as ISIS claims they're Muslim, of course non-Muslims will think they're Muslim. It's a convenient label that fits their mental checkboxes of what the "Islamic religion" is about i.e. they profess the Shahada, the pillars, etc.