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Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:39 pm**

Ansarullah wrote:
Nobody said anything about moderates or sugarcoating. You're professing a morally repugnant and indefensible ideology, and while proliferating demonstrably false lies in the process. You're advocating genocide, and with the most idiotic of justifications to boot.

When did I advocate for genocide?

When you threw in with Nazis.

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:39 pm**

Tarsonis wrote:
Ansarullah wrote:I'm not sugarcoating anything. If you want a "moderate" Muslim, go to Dowaesk.

Nobody said anything about moderates. You're professing a morally repugnant and indefensible ideology, and while proliferating demonstrably false lies in the process. You're advocating genocide, and with the most idiotic of justifications to boot.

You're not taking a stand for Islam, you're just proving the Islamophobes right.

Which makes it more difficult for those who actually defend Islam rather than ruling up people, defend Islam with more difficulty.

I am appalled by the performance of some of these so called new users which is why I put them on my ignore list.

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:40 pm**

Ansarullah wrote:
Nobody said anything about moderates or sugarcoating. You're professing a morally repugnant and indefensible ideology, and while proliferating demonstrably false lies in the process. You're advocating genocide, and with the most idiotic of justifications to boot.

When did I advocate for genocide?
I denied a genocide. I never said Jews should be killed nor did I say I hated them. I denied they were killed on purpose.

You implied that you wanted homosexuals dead, for one...

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:40 pm**

When you threw in with Nazis.

?

You implied that you wanted homosexuals dead, for one...

The opinion of all Islamic scholars and the Prophet (sallahu alaihi wasallam). Like I said, I'm not going to sugarcoat Islam.

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:41 pm**

Ansarullah wrote:
When you threw in with Nazis.

?
You implied that you wanted homosexuals dead, for one...

The opinion of all Islamic scholars and the Prophet (sallahu alaihi wasallam). Like I said, I'm not going to sugarcoat Islam.

Then quit denying you advocated genocide. You obviously support those views.

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:42 pm**

Then quit denying you advocated genocide. You obviously support those views.

A sexuality is not an ethnicity or race or even a group.
Plus I don't want all homosexuals dead by themselves, only those who commit sodomy, but I really do not want to go there.

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:44 pm**

Ansarullah wrote:
Nobody said anything about moderates or sugarcoating. You're professing a morally repugnant and indefensible ideology, and while proliferating demonstrably false lies in the process. You're advocating genocide, and with the most idiotic of justifications to boot.

When did I advocate for genocide?
I denied a genocide. I never said Jews should be killed nor did I say I hated them. I denied they were killed on purpose.

They were. I studied this for a whole semester last year lol, you have no idea what you're talking about.

You're attaching yourself to an incredibly stupid conspiracy theory for no reason.

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:44 pm**

Ansarullah wrote:
Then quit denying you advocated genocide. You obviously support those views.

A sexuality is not an ethnicity or race or even a group.
Plus I don't want all homosexuals dead by themselves, only those who commit sodomy, but I really do not want to go there.

Tell that to the LGBTQ+ community who have been ostracised throughout history and only recently in more democratic countries are they allowed to be themselves.

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:44 pm**

Ansarullah wrote:
Then quit denying you advocated genocide. You obviously support those views.

A sexuality is not an ethnicity or race or even a group.
Plus I don't want all homosexuals dead by themselves, only those who commit sodomy, but I really do not want to go there.

Killing off an entire group of people for their sexuality is still genocide. Don't get into pointless semantics here. We all know what you said here and it's disgusting.

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:44 pm**

Ansarullah wrote:
When you threw in with Nazis.

?

Genocide is a goal of Nazism. If you align Islam's goals to theirs, you are advocating genocide as an Islamic goal.

You implied that you wanted homosexuals dead, for one...

The opinion of all Islamic scholars and the Prophet (sallahu alaihi wasallam). Like I said, I'm not going to sugarcoat Islam.

That's not really accurate. As in Christianity and Judaism, Homosexuality remains a hotly debated topic.

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:45 pm**

Ansarullah wrote:
Then quit denying you advocated genocide. You obviously support those views.

A sexuality is not an ethnicity or race or even a group.
Plus I don't want all homosexuals dead by themselves, only those who commit sodomy, but I really do not want to go there.

Of course you don't want to go there. You don't want to be held account for your abhorrent beliefs.

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:46 pm**

Ansarullah wrote:
Then quit denying you advocated genocide. You obviously support those views.

A sexuality is not an ethnicity or race or even a group.
Plus I don't want all homosexuals dead by themselves, only those who commit sodomy, but I really do not want to go there.

Just leave this thread. It has already become a shitshow, yet you made it even more worse.

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:46 pm**

Genocide is a goal of Nazism. If you align Islam's goals to theirs, you are advocating genocide as an Islamic goal.

Genocide against whom?

That's not really accurate. As in Christianity and Judaism, Homosexuality remains a hotly debated topic.

Am I a Jew or Christian?

Killing off an entire group of people for their sexuality is still genocide. Don't get into pointless semantics here. We all know what you said here and it's disgusting.

It's not just my opinion.

Tell that to the LGBTQ+ community who have been ostracised throughout history and only recently in more democratic countries are they allowed to be themselves.

See the "I don't want to go there" part.

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:47 pm**

Just leave this thread. It has already become a shitshow, yet you made it even more worse.

I've done nothing. I stated an opinion, you all are the ones attacking me for it.

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:48 pm**

Ansarullah wrote:
Just leave this thread. It has already become a shitshow, yet you made it even more worse.

I've done nothing. I stated an opinion, you all are the ones attacking me for it.

I didn't attack you. Also, you might get into trouble soon.

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:49 pm**

Ansarullah wrote:
Genocide is a goal of Nazism. If you align Islam's goals to theirs, you are advocating genocide as an Islamic goal.

Genocide against whom?
That's not really accurate. As in Christianity and Judaism, Homosexuality remains a hotly debated topic.

Am I a Jew or Christian?
Killing off an entire group of people for their sexuality is still genocide. Don't get into pointless semantics here. We all know what you said here and it's disgusting.

It's not just my opinion.
Tell that to the LGBTQ+ community who have been ostracised throughout history and only recently in more democratic countries are they allowed to be themselves.

See the "I don't want to go there" part.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims

That's your choice. Society advances, but it's your choice if you want to continue believing that homosexuals should be killed. Just because your holy book says yes doesn't;t mean you should have to. Otherwise you will never learn and adapt but maintain a dogmatic view.

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:49 pm**

I didn't attack you. Also, you might get into trouble soon.

See here.
And I'm referring to everyone else, not you in particular.

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:49 pm**

That's your choice. Society advances, but it's your choice if you want to continue believing that homosexuals should be killed. Just because your holy book says yes doesn't;t mean you should have to. Otherwise you will never learn and adapt but maintain a dogmatic view.

I'll continue believing it, thank you.

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:50 pm**

Ansarullah wrote:
Genocide is a goal of Nazism. If you align Islam's goals to theirs, you are advocating genocide as an Islamic goal.

Genocide against whom?

Jews, primarily. As well as any other "undesirable" cast. If you say Jews weren't killed on purpose, you're just straight up lying.

That's not really accurate. As in Christianity and Judaism, Homosexuality remains a hotly debated topic.

Am I a Jew or Christian?

English must not be your first language. The reference to Christianity and Judaism are comparisons, I said it's debated in Islam as well, which it is.

Killing off an entire group of people for their sexuality is still genocide. Don't get into pointless semantics here. We all know what you said here and it's disgusting.

It's not just my opinion.

irrelevant.

Tell that to the LGBTQ+ community who have been ostracised throughout history and only recently in more democratic countries are they allowed to be themselves.

See the "I don't want to go there" part.

Then, leave

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:50 pm**

Ansarullah wrote:
Genocide is a goal of Nazism. If you align Islam's goals to theirs, you are advocating genocide as an Islamic goal.

Genocide against whom?

Jews, Romani, Balts and Slavs.

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:51 pm**

Immortan Khan wrote:
Ansarullah wrote:Genocide against whom?

Jews, Romani, Balts and Slavs.

5 to 7 million Soviet Civilians.

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:51 pm**

English must not be your first language. The reference to Christianity and Judaism are comparisons, I said it's debated in Islam as well, which it is.

It's not. It's very clear cut.

Then, leave

I'll leave if I want to, you can't force me to. I've done nothing wrong here other than state an opinion. You are the one continuing this. You stop posting, I stop posting, we both go on with our day.

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:51 pm**

Immortan Khan wrote:
Ansarullah wrote:Genocide against whom?

Jews, Romani, Balts and Slavs.

You forgot a bunch of groups. The disabled, homosexuals, political opponents, etc.

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:52 pm**

It's also pretty disingenuous of you to go "I don't want to offend LGBT people" right after implying you agree with the Nazis killing homosexuals and then say you don't want to talk about your Holocaust denialism because a Jewish person showed up and you "don't want" to offend them.

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:52 pm**

everything else, I'm not invidually quoting them

I denied a genocide, I did not advocate for it.

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