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What denomination of Islam are you part of?

Sunni
250
44%
Salafi
17
3%
Shi'a
48
8%
Qur'ani
13
2%
Ahmadi
9
2%
IbaaDi
10
2%
Sufi (either Sunni or Shi'a)
30
5%
Non-Denominational
87
15%
Other
102
18%
 
Total votes : 566

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Postby Dowaesk » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:20 am

Samudera Darussalam wrote:
Dowaesk wrote:Image from Pew Research Forum. Found it just a minute ago.


In the case of Sri Lanka, I would like to include that Sri Lanka is a very racist country towards Non-Buddhists. Pew Research would have been off fine with writing Muslims, since they make up 15% of the population. I been to Sri Lanka (I went once during the civil war and once after) and although I was too small to understand back then, 10 years later, I look back (to the time we went after the civil war) and understand why they stopped my mother on the streets and ravaged through our stuff. (They took away my mother's deodorant spray). The only reason they went easy on us was because we are Maldivians. I saw it in their faces. When they saw my mother as a Muslim, they were like ready to pound on her, but when my mother told them that she was Maldivian. Their whole behaviour and expressions changed. Suddenly they were friendly, acted as if nothing happened and that it was all good. And they knew they'd get in trouble if they hurt or offended a Maldivian. If it had been anyone else, I cant say what would have taken place.

Sri Lanka's the only country I had a personal encounter like that. Although, that happened. Sri Lanka was very nice and had good time. Except for the fact that I was very sick.
I personally cant say for any other countries, since I've never been there (exception to India). All I know is what I get from the internet and foreign frnds.

Sorry to hear you and your mother have to go through that.
Though why with Maldivian? No offense, but I'm curious.

Probably, because Maldives is a country that will not ignore these kinds of stuff. Not to mention, it'll further ruin the already bad name that Sri Lanka has gotten among us. But Sri Lanka does a lot of kissing up and is still a very close friend of ours. And I almost forgot to mention. Colour has stuff do with this as well. People in South Asia, excluding Maldives, generally sees lighter skin tones as more attractive. And darker skin toned people can be subjected to racism and even violence. And this kind of stuff is abnormally high in Sri Lanka. With the Tamil (mostly Hindus) genocide and killing of Sri Lankan Moors (mostly Muslims). In the case of Maldives, well let me be honest. Although we are nice people. We are very self centered. We are quite selfish as well. Take a look at history. The Maldivian ethnicity. Next to our Indian roots (which gave us our colour), our most dominant roots come from Europe and the Caucasus region. And we were always seen as different from the mainland. Because, while Indians were taken as slaves by the Europeans they instead gave us gifts. The gift of having their babies born to the superior race that was white people. And the people really went along with it. And also there was the fact that Maldives, even back then was quite rich compared to the size. No surprise Maldives was called "Mahiladiva" (Island of Women) in Sanskrit.

Getting down from Maldives, I dont think we are the only people. The Police must have thought we were either Sri Lankan or from the Northern region of Sri Lanka (you might think its the same thing, but Sri Lankan racism begs to differ. See "Tamil Eelam" on Google). They became nice to us when they found out we were Maldivians. Like the story Insaanistan shared above me. They are nice to anyone that they think has the potential to stand up to discrimination. And dark skinned people from Africa, most of the time, does not have the government standing up for them. So God knows how they are treated.
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Postby Dowaesk » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:19 am

What about all you other peeps. Hows it like living as a Muslim in your country?
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Postby A m e n r i a » Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:13 pm

In Indonesia? Meh the usual

In China? Like a spokesman or something
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Postby Dowaesk » Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:14 am

A m e n r i a wrote:In Indonesia? Meh the usual

In China? Like a spokesman or something

*visible confusion* :blink:
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Postby Muzehnaya » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:13 pm

Samudera Darussalam wrote:Yeah, Taraweh Salat is firmly considered Sunnah. I'm not sure what you mean by praying 5 different prayers before you go to sleep (last 4 Surahs + Ayatul Kursi?). I haven't heard the term Ngaji before either.

Ah! "Ngaji" is an Indonesian (Javanese-dialect) term for reading the Qur'an.
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Ah okay, I was trying to search the meaning of it but I couldn't find anything. Thanks.
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Postby Muzehnaya » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:14 pm

Samudera Darussalam wrote:
Muzehnaya wrote:Yeah, Taraweh Salat is firmly considered Sunnah. I'm not sure what you mean by praying 5 different prayers before you go to sleep (last 4 Surahs + Ayatul Kursi?). I haven't heard the term Ngaji before either.

Ah! "Ngaji" is an Indonesian (Javanese-dialect) term for reading the Qur'an.

Ah okay, I was trying to search the meaning of it but I couldn't find anything. Thanks.
Ibn Taymiyyah - Majmu al-Fatawa 4/186 wrote:Insulting, slandering, and being aggressive during a discussion are tricks of those who are weak
and a commodity of those who are bankrupt (in knowledge). Verily, refutations based upon insults
and intimidation, everyone has the capability of doing that.

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Postby Cereskia » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:16 pm

Samudera Darussalam wrote:
Muzehnaya wrote:Alhamdulilah, so has our masjid. Although they still are keeping the requirement to wear a mask, the cases in our area have dropped low enough that they are no longer mandating that people bring their own janamaz, and we can pray shoulder to shoulder again.


I am pleasantly surprised that they made this decision. Inshallah, the conditions will be better so that we all can make Hajj next year.


Yeah, Taraweh Salat is firmly considered Sunnah. I'm not sure what you mean by praying 5 different prayers before you go to sleep (last 4 Surahs + Ayatul Kursi?). I haven't heard the term Ngaji before either.

Ah! "Ngaji" is an Indonesian (Javanese-dialect) term for reading the Qur'an.

Dowaesk wrote:Image from Pew Research Forum. Found it just a minute ago.


In the case of Sri Lanka, I would like to include that Sri Lanka is a very racist country towards Non-Buddhists. Pew Research would have been off fine with writing Muslims, since they make up 15% of the population. I been to Sri Lanka (I went once during the civil war and once after) and although I was too small to understand back then, 10 years later, I look back (to the time we went after the civil war) and understand why they stopped my mother on the streets and ravaged through our stuff. (They took away my mother's deodorant spray). The only reason they went easy on us was because we are Maldivians. I saw it in their faces. When they saw my mother as a Muslim, they were like ready to pound on her, but when my mother told them that she was Maldivian. Their whole behaviour and expressions changed. Suddenly they were friendly, acted as if nothing happened and that it was all good. And they knew they'd get in trouble if they hurt or offended a Maldivian. If it had been anyone else, I cant say what would have taken place.

Sri Lanka's the only country I had a personal encounter like that. Although, that happened. Sri Lanka was very nice and had good time. Except for the fact that I was very sick.
I personally cant say for any other countries, since I've never been there (exception to India). All I know is what I get from the internet and foreign frnds.

Sorry to hear you and your mother have to go through that.
Though why with Maldivian? No offense, but I'm curious.

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Postby A m e n r i a » Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:32 pm

Dowaesk wrote:
A m e n r i a wrote:In Indonesia? Meh the usual

In China? Like a spokesman or something

*visible confusion* :blink:


People kept asking me questions about Islam. And my home country. And everything else, actually.
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Postby Dowaesk » Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:40 am

A m e n r i a wrote:
Dowaesk wrote:*visible confusion* :blink:


People kept asking me questions about Islam. And my home country. And everything else, actually.

Oh lol I see.
What reactions do you generally get? Negative or positive?
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Postby A m e n r i a » Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:57 am

Dowaesk wrote:
A m e n r i a wrote:
People kept asking me questions about Islam. And my home country. And everything else, actually.

Oh lol I see.
What reactions do you generally get? Negative or positive?


Neither, the vibes I got are neither love nor hate, but curiosity. Also African Muslims up there are really friendly. They'd offer handshakes and hugs on Idul Fitri and Idul Adha. Sometimes they'd start conversations on the way to the mosque on Fridays.
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Postby Muzehnaya » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:49 am

Alhamdulillah, even some sadness is a blessing from Allah (SWT):
Musnad Ahmad 24708 wrote:Aisha reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “If the sins of a servant are numerous and he does not have good deeds to compensate, Allah will afflict him with sadness as an expiation for him.”

(Al-Suyuti graded it as Hasan)
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Ibn Taymiyyah - Majmu al-Fatawa 4/186 wrote:Insulting, slandering, and being aggressive during a discussion are tricks of those who are weak
and a commodity of those who are bankrupt (in knowledge). Verily, refutations based upon insults
and intimidation, everyone has the capability of doing that.

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Postby A m e n r i a » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:34 am

Muzehnaya wrote:Alhamdulillah, even some sadness is a blessing from Allah (SWT):
Musnad Ahmad 24708 wrote:Aisha reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “If the sins of a servant are numerous and he does not have good deeds to compensate, Allah will afflict him with sadness as an expiation for him.”

(Al-Suyuti graded it as Hasan)


So that's why I get randomly sad definitely not my existential crisis..
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Postby Dowaesk » Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:56 pm

Muzehnaya wrote:Alhamdulillah, even some sadness is a blessing from Allah (SWT):
Musnad Ahmad 24708 wrote:Aisha reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “If the sins of a servant are numerous and he does not have good deeds to compensate, Allah will afflict him with sadness as an expiation for him.”

(Al-Suyuti graded it as Hasan)

Makes sense. I have done a substantial amount of sins. Being sad is the new happiness. :D
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-Warning: I tend to talk about Maldives a little too much.
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Postby Muzehnaya » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:18 pm

Dowaesk wrote:
Muzehnaya wrote:Alhamdulillah, even some sadness is a blessing from Allah (SWT):

(Al-Suyuti graded it as Hasan)

Makes sense. I have done a substantial amount of sins. Being sad is the new happiness. :D

Haha, well, obviously there are other reasons people are sad, but it just goes to show that even some of what we consider to be wholly negative is a mercy from Allah (SWT).
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and a commodity of those who are bankrupt (in knowledge). Verily, refutations based upon insults
and intimidation, everyone has the capability of doing that.

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Postby Arklanda » Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:29 pm

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Postby Jolthig » Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:37 pm

Arklanda wrote:السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته
I'm i allowed to discuss (Tafsir Ro'yas/Dream Explanation)?
If so, what anyone of you thinks about the dream of the sun rising from the west? I have seen many explanations. One of these explanation matched with what's happening irl.
Thank you for your times.
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Postby Muzehnaya » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:13 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Arklanda wrote:السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته
I'm i allowed to discuss (Tafsir Ro'yas/Dream Explanation)?
If so, what anyone of you thinks about the dream of the sun rising from the west? I have seen many explanations. One of these explanation matched with what's happening irl.
Thank you for your times.
Baraka llahu fikum

Walakium salaam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatu.

It means the spread of Islam in the west in the latter days according to my understanding of that hadith from Sahih Muslim in the latter days.

Which hadith are you referring to? I briefly took a look in the book of dreams, but I couldn't find anything about the rising of the sun?
Ibn Taymiyyah - Majmu al-Fatawa 4/186 wrote:Insulting, slandering, and being aggressive during a discussion are tricks of those who are weak
and a commodity of those who are bankrupt (in knowledge). Verily, refutations based upon insults
and intimidation, everyone has the capability of doing that.

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Postby A m e n r i a » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:14 pm

Arklanda wrote:That's really beautiful. I hope Justice and Peace spread all over the world asap. Mashallah.
I saw this dream twice, in Ramadan and today.
May Allah Give blessings, victory to Islam and Muslims.


Aamiin. Good to know I'm not the only one with strange dreams. :p

However, my dreams lately have been relatively normal. Kinda sus.
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Postby Jolthig » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:26 pm

Muzehnaya wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Walakium salaam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatu.

It means the spread of Islam in the west in the latter days according to my understanding of that hadith from Sahih Muslim in the latter days.

Which hadith are you referring to? I briefly took a look in the book of dreams, but I couldn't find anything about the rising of the sun?

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:4636

Not Muslim but is the hadith im referencing.
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Postby Muzehnaya » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:32 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Muzehnaya wrote:Which hadith are you referring to? I briefly took a look in the book of dreams, but I couldn't find anything about the rising of the sun?

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:4636

Not Muslim but is the hadith im referencing.

Ah okay, jazakallah khair. It's kind of crazy to think how we are living in the end of times, and the day of judgement is so close.
Ibn Taymiyyah - Majmu al-Fatawa 4/186 wrote:Insulting, slandering, and being aggressive during a discussion are tricks of those who are weak
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and intimidation, everyone has the capability of doing that.

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Postby Arklanda » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:43 pm

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Postby A m e n r i a » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:18 am

Muzehnaya wrote:
Jolthig wrote:https://sunnah.com/bukhari:4636

Not Muslim but is the hadith im referencing.

Ah okay, jazakallah khair. It's kind of crazy to think how we are living in the end of times, and the day of judgement is so close.


Cut that doomer nonsense, that's your great^100000 grandchildren's line. :p

Arklanda wrote:
A m e n r i a wrote:
Aamiin. Good to know I'm not the only one with strange dreams. :p

However, my dreams lately have been relatively normal. Kinda sus.



Illogical dreams makes a lot of sense.


I once had a dream when I was walking down an empty street in an empty city. In the middle of the road there was a popcorn machine. A kitten walked out of it then melted into butter. That makes zero sense to me.
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Postby Fatimida » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:22 am

I want a butter kitten =(
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Postby A m e n r i a » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:27 am

Fatimida wrote:I want a butter kitten =(
edit: I'll delete this if asked to, I just felt like saying that


You can't really play with it when it's a puddle of melted butter in the middle of the road.
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