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What denomination of Islam are you part of?

Sunni
250
44%
Salafi
17
3%
Shi'a
48
8%
Qur'ani
13
2%
Ahmadi
9
2%
IbaaDi
10
2%
Sufi (either Sunni or Shi'a)
30
5%
Non-Denominational
87
15%
Other
102
18%
 
Total votes : 566

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Postby North German Realm » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:42 am

A m e n r i a wrote:
North German Realm wrote:Which is why Islamic banking is nothing but a sham. If you do as god commands, banking is impossible. If you try to bank anyway, you're trying to trick god. That's -by your own admission- trying the impossible.


Banking without interest is not just possible, but also the best form of banking there is. Aside from saving yourself from sin, it also prevents inflation. The next step is dealing with deflation, though I'm sure someone would come up with a solution to that too.

I'm not quite sure you actually know what inflation means.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:43 am

A m e n r i a wrote:
Kowani wrote:How does this relate in any way to what I posted?


To prevent inflation, you stop doing the sin it invites in the first place.

You stop Interest…and yeah, you have no clue what causes inflation.
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Postby Caliphate of the Netherlands » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:18 am

Having no interest on loans =/= stopping inflation...
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Postby North German Realm » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:19 am

Caliphate of the Netherlands wrote:Having no interest on loans =/= stopping inflation...
Amenria just doesn't know what inflation is, I wouldn't really pay attention to him
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Postby Jolthig » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:36 am

North German Realm wrote:
Caliphate of the Netherlands wrote:Having no interest on loans =/= stopping inflation...
Amenria just doesn't know what inflation is, I wouldn't really pay attention to him

We all know the king of historical counties for inflation....

The Weimar Republic! :)
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Postby Kowani » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:44 am

Jolthig wrote:
North German Realm wrote:Amenria just doesn't know what inflation is, I wouldn't really pay attention to him

We all know the king of historical counties for inflation....

The Weimar Republic! :)

Zimbabwe called.
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Postby Jolthig » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:47 am

Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:We all know the king of historical counties for inflation....

The Weimar Republic! :)

Zimbabwe called.

Oh yes. Formally Mugabe's paradise. :)
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Postby Kowani » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:49 am

Jolthig wrote:
Kowani wrote:Zimbabwe called.

Oh yes. Formally Mugabe's paradise. :)

Thankfully, no longer.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:54 am

Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:We all know the king of historical counties for inflation....

The Weimar Republic! :)

Zimbabwe called.


Ironically, old Zimbabwe money was an excellent investment.
The actual banknotes that is. People nowadays are willing to pay lots to say they have a trillion dollars; the price of such a banknote has more than quadrupled in the past few years.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:42 pm

Kowani wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:
We'd have to bring that Convo to the IDT, it'd derail this.

To the IDT it is!



Thus, Capu-the question remains. What is your version of Sharia?
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Postby Jolthig » Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:06 pm

Cappuccina wrote:
Kowani wrote:Don’t you support Sharia?

Yes, Sharia probably isn't what you think it is though. There are actually different types of it.

The Ahmadiyya position is in line with the Hanafi version with of course, the guidance of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad on the Holy Quran, Sunnah, and Qiyas (deductive analogy).
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Postby Jolthig » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:43 am

Happy new Islamic year everyone!
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:45 am

Jolthig wrote:Happy new Islamic year everyone!

Happy New Islamic Year!

Eh, I forgot to read my dua. Why....

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Postby North German Realm » Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:47 am

Happy new Arabic year, everyone.
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Postby Jolthig » Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:13 am

North German Realm wrote:Happy new Arabic year, everyone.

And Islamic. :)
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Postby Kowani » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:52 pm

Jolthig wrote:Happy new Islamic year everyone!

Well, I didn’t know. Happy new year to you all.
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Postby Cappuccina » Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:03 pm

Kowani wrote:
Kowani wrote:To the IDT it is!



Thus, Capu-the question remains. What is your version of Sharia?

Sorry, I've been kinda under the weather the past few days.

Well, my view of Sharia is focused much more of the Quran itself instead of hadith. The way I see it the popularity of certain hadith have corrupted many people's views in Islam and lead many a Muslim astray.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:38 pm

Cappuccina wrote:Sorry, I've been kinda under the weather the past few days.
Don’t be sorry. Real life takes priority.
Well, my view of Sharia is focused much more of the Quran itself instead of hadith. The way I see it the popularity of certain hadith have corrupted many people's views in Islam and lead many a Muslim astray.

Okay…how would such a Quran-centric society be structured?
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Postby Pacomia » Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:40 pm

how has saudi arabia not been overthrown yet
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Postby North German Realm » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:36 am

Pacomia wrote:how has saudi arabia not been overthrown yet

The same reason Iran hasn't? Nobody has neither the balls nor the ambition to do so.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:23 am

North German Realm wrote:
Pacomia wrote:how has saudi arabia not been overthrown yet

The same reason Iran hasn't? Nobody has neither the balls nor the ambition to do so.


With any luck Iran is hopefully slowly getting there.
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Postby North German Realm » Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:25 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
North German Realm wrote:The same reason Iran hasn't? Nobody has neither the balls nor the ambition to do so.


With any luck Iran is hopefully slowly getting there.

I hope so, but I doubt it's going to happen anytime soon. The US doesn't have a good reputation in forcing regime change on other countries recently. Unless the Islamic Occupation actually starts an actual war, it's not likely.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:50 am

This is old, but I just happened to know that some Muslims are/were refraining from going on hajj due to acts of the Saudi government.

Let's see if this movement is going to be stronger or....just gone.

Anyway, I feel sorry for the Bahamas. Is there anything that we can do for them?

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Postby Jolthig » Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:18 am

So guys, just a heads up, I'll be less active on social media as I got things in my life I gotta take care of. Especially spiritual needs so I will be cutting down on the distractions here on social media. I'll be focusing more on reading, and personal development.

To those who I said I would reply in various past discussions, forgive me for not fulfilling my end of the discussion, but I just don't have motivation to debate and I feel it's time consuming for me when I could've used that time for other things. I no longer wish to overwhelm myself with participating in various discussions.

I'll continue to occasionally pop in here, TET, and RWDT (for history discussions), but now with me being stressed in life and low self-esteem, I'll be doing a big social media de-tox. However, I'll be free anytime for telegrams. I will not abandon any of you, and the NSG community has a place in my heart, and I'm sure I'm in theirs too.

God bless. Wa salaam.
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