Islamic Discussion Thread ٥: Free Tajweed, Absolutely Halaal

[Neko-koku]

What are you even talking about?

Starting a bank without interest is setting fire to your own belonging. Starting a bank with interest is against word of god. Starting a bank with interest that you call anything but interest is a feeble attempt at tricking the Khayr-ul-makerin. Do your math.

Interest is natural.

[North German Realm]

Starting a bank without interest is setting fire to your own belonging. Starting a bank with interest is against word of god. Starting a bank with interest that you call anything but interest is a feeble attempt at tricking the Khayr-ul-makerin. Do your math.

Interest is natural.

I don't disagree with you, it's the first rule in banking. Islam, however, like Christianity, views it as usury and thus against word of god.

[Jolthig]

I'll be reading that economics book by my fourth Khalifa in response to this conversation sometime.

[Neko-koku]

Interest is natural.

I don't disagree with you, it's the first rule in banking. Islam, however, like Christianity, views it as usury and thus against word of god.

Right.

Just like cities, interest serve important purpose and can not be abolished.

[Pacomia]

Saudi Arabia? Bar?

W H A T

[The Alma Mater]

Interest is natural.

I don't disagree with you, it's the first rule in banking. Islam, however, like Christianity, views it as usury and thus against word of god.

I do wonder what Islam thinks of *negative* interest, as we now have in Europe.

[Samudera Darussalam]

Saudi Arabia? Bar?

W H A T

Saudi Arabia is planning to open a 'halal' nightclub, what do you expect?

Things like this are becoming memes of themselves among some of us Muslims.

[Pacomia]

Saudi Arabia? Bar?

W H A T

Saudi Arabia is planning to open a 'halal' nightclub, what do you expect?

Things like this are becoming memes of themselves among some of us Muslims.

New: Halal pork! Halal heatenry! Halal Satan-worship!

[Kowani]

Saudi Arabia is planning to open a 'halal' nightclub, what do you expect?

Things like this are becoming memes of themselves among some of us Muslims.

New: Halal pork! Halal heatenry! Halal Satan-worship!

Does synthetic pork still count?

[Pacomia]

Well, I was in favour of toppling the Saudi government, but seems like they’re doing that themselves. Better move on to Russia, I guess.

[North German Realm]

I don't disagree with you, it's the first rule in banking. Islam, however, like Christianity, views it as usury and thus against word of god.

I do wonder what Islam thinks of *negative* interest, as we now have in Europe.

If you argue from a position of legalism, as long as you money makes money, it's usury. I'm sure there is some Mufti or Mullah somewhere with a different opinion though.

[The Alma Mater]

Saudi Arabia is planning to open a 'halal' nightclub, what do you expect?

Things like this are becoming memes of themselves among some of us Muslims.

New: Halal pork! Halal heatenry! Halal Satan-worship!

Halal (vegan) pork already exists

[Pacomia]

New: Halal pork! Halal heatenry! Halal Satan-worship!

Halal (vegan) pork already exists

That’s not pork.

[Samudera Darussalam]

Halal (vegan) pork already exists

That’s not pork.

Not a real pork, yes, but it kind of does

[Cappuccina]

What are you even talking about?

Starting a bank without interest is setting fire to your own belonging. Starting a bank with interest is against word of god. Starting a bank with interest that you call anything but interest is a feeble attempt at tricking the Khayr-ul-makerin. Do your math.

The answer is to do as God (swt) commands, simple as that really. "Tricking" God (swt) is impossible.

[North German Realm]

Starting a bank without interest is setting fire to your own belonging. Starting a bank with interest is against word of god. Starting a bank with interest that you call anything but interest is a feeble attempt at tricking the Khayr-ul-makerin. Do your math.

The answer is to do as God (swt) commands, simple as that really. "Tricking" God (swt) is impossible.

Which is why Islamic banking is nothing but a sham. If you do as god commands, banking is impossible. If you try to bank anyway, you're trying to trick god. That's -by your own admission- trying the impossible.

[A m e n r i a]

The answer is to do as God (swt) commands, simple as that really. "Tricking" God (swt) is impossible.

Which is why Islamic banking is nothing but a sham. If you do as god commands, banking is impossible. If you try to bank anyway, you're trying to trick god. That's -by your own admission- trying the impossible.

Banking without interest is not just possible, but also the best form of banking there is. Aside from saving yourself from sin, it also prevents inflation. The next step is dealing with deflation, though I'm sure someone would come up with a solution to that too.

[Kowani]

Which is why Islamic banking is nothing but a sham. If you do as god commands, banking is impossible. If you try to bank anyway, you're trying to trick god. That's -by your own admission- trying the impossible.

Banking without interest is not just possible, but also the best form of banking there is. Aside from saving yourself from sin, it also prevents inflation. The next step is dealing with deflation, though I'm sure someone would come up with a solution to that too.

Banking without interest doesn’t prevent inflation, though. Like, at all.

[The Alma Mater]

Which is why Islamic banking is nothing but a sham. If you do as god commands, banking is impossible. If you try to bank anyway, you're trying to trick god. That's -by your own admission- trying the impossible.

Banking without interest is not just possible, but also the best form of banking there is.

Are you calling Islamic banking inferior, since it uses interest ?

[A m e n r i a]

Banking without interest is not just possible, but also the best form of banking there is.

Are you calling Islamic banking inferior, since it uses interest ?

It doesn't.

Banking without interest is not just possible, but also the best form of banking there is. Aside from saving yourself from sin, it also prevents inflation. The next step is dealing with deflation, though I'm sure someone would come up with a solution to that too.

Banking without interest doesn’t prevent inflation, though. Like, at all.

How do you stop a constant divine retribution for a certain sin? Stop repeating the sin, of course.

[The Alma Mater]

Are you calling Islamic banking inferior, since it uses interest ?

It doesn't.

It does. That's the whole thing we have been discussing for the past few pages - calling a duck a dog does not mean it is not a duck.

[A m e n r i a]

It doesn't.

It does. That's the whole thing we have been discussing for the past few pages - calling a duck a dog does not mean it is not a duck.

No, it doesn't. (Use bing translate, I'm too lazy to find a non-Indonesian source)

[Kowani]

Are you calling Islamic banking inferior, since it uses interest ?

It doesn't.

Banking without interest doesn’t prevent inflation, though. Like, at all.

How do you stop a constant divine retribution for a certain sin? Stop repeating the sin, of course.

How does this relate in any way to what I posted?

[The Alma Mater]

It does. That's the whole thing we have been discussing for the past few pages - calling a duck a dog does not mean it is not a duck.

No, it doesn't. (Use bing translate, I'm too lazy to find a non-Indonesian source)

That ironically confirms it does

[A m e n r i a]

It doesn't.



How do you stop a constant divine retribution for a certain sin? Stop repeating the sin, of course.

How does this relate in any way to what I posted?

To prevent inflation, you stop doing the sin it invites in the first place.

No, it doesn't. (Use bing translate, I'm too lazy to find a non-Indonesian source)

That ironically confirms it does

There's a chart that specifies that it doesn't.