Islamic Discussion Thread ٥: Free Tajweed, Absolutely Halaal

[North German Realm]

You don't promote slavery, there's nothing wrong with it in the first place. I still dislike it though.

Wait, you don't think there's anything wrong with slavery? You think it's morally acceptable for one person to literally allow another?

I see you're new here (I realize you're not, but you get my point). We've been over the "Slavery is bad" debate a hundred times now.

[A m e n r i a]

Wait, you don't think there's anything wrong with slavery? You think it's morally acceptable for one person to literally allow another?

I see you're new here (I realize you're not, but you get my point). We've been over the "Slavery is bad" debate a hundred times now.

With the entity ruling the omniverse who defines what is good and bad allowing slavery, it's safe to say it isn't bad. But yea, I wouldn't want slavery in China. Temporary bedroom exceptions not counted.

[North German Realm]

I see you're new here (I realize you're not, but you get my point). We've been over the "Slavery is bad" debate a hundred times now.

With the entity ruling the omniverse who defines what is good and bad allowing slavery, it's safe to say it isn't bad. But yea, I wouldn't want slavery in China. Temporary bedroom exceptions not counted.

That's the problem with Islam and with Muslims like you. You have no agency of your own and lack morality at the barest level. Fuck the entity saying slavery is ok. Slavery, just like that entity, is evil.

[Al Mumtahanah]

Slavery is dogmatically halal, that can't be argued. It's not desirable or necessary anymore, but it is entirely halal if done according to Shariaa.

[A m e n r i a]

With the entity ruling the omniverse who defines what is good and bad allowing slavery, it's safe to say it isn't bad. But yea, I wouldn't want slavery in China. Temporary bedroom exceptions not counted.

That's the problem with Islam and with Muslims like you. You have no agency of your own and lack morality at the barest level. Fuck the entity saying slavery is ok. Slavery, just like that entity, is evil.

"The entity of good is evil."

See how ridiculous that sounds? And this is coming from a guy who's been relentlessly abused by Him to the point of switching sides and opppsing Him. That's right, I'm evil now. Have been for a while, actually. I'm just here to correct some misconceptions, not defend what's right anymore.

[North German Realm]

That's the problem with Islam and with Muslims like you. You have no agency of your own and lack morality at the barest level. Fuck the entity saying slavery is ok. Slavery, just like that entity, is evil.

"The entity of good is evil."

See how ridiculous that sounds? And this is coming from a guy who's been relentlessly abused by Him to the point of switching sides and opppsing Him. That's right, I'm evil now. Have been for a while, actually. I'm just here to correct some misconceptions, not defend what's right anymore.

That entity is literally the only one claiming it is not evil. You realize how poor your argument sounds, right? You're using an entity's own words ("I am not evil") to argue that it is not evil. Your god supports slavery, rape, unjust war, subjugation, and murder. Your god is evil. And that's ironic, because your god is the only entity that is actually evil, as opposed to "Chaotic".

[Bread Herbert]

Slavery is dogmatically halal, that can't be argued. It's not desirable or necessary anymore, but it is entirely halal if done according to Shariaa.

So is spousal rape, raping female slaves, and killing gay people. Just because something is halal, doesn't mean it is good. In fact it seems that what is good in Islam is evil to everyone that has a working moral compass.

[A m e n r i a]

"The entity of good is evil."

See how ridiculous that sounds? And this is coming from a guy who's been relentlessly abused by Him to the point of switching sides and opppsing Him. That's right, I'm evil now. Have been for a while, actually. I'm just here to correct some misconceptions, not defend what's right anymore.

That entity is literally the only one claiming it is not evil. You realize how poor your argument sounds, right? You're using an entity's own words ("I am not evil") to argue that it is not evil. Your god supports slavery, rape, unjust war, subjugation, and murder. Your god is evil. And that's ironic, because your god is the only entity that is actually evil, as opposed to "Chaotic".

You realize that His words dictate reality, right? So for Him, saying "I'm not evil" makes Him not evil. Sure, you can say all that delicious blasphemy, but it'll only hold water if, I dunno, you were the ominpotent one in charge of the omniverse?

[Al Mumtahanah]

Slavery is dogmatically halal, that can't be argued. It's not desirable or necessary anymore, but it is entirely halal if done according to Shariaa.

So is spousal rape, raping female slaves, and killing gay people. Just because something is halal, doesn't mean it is good. In fact it seems that what is good in Islam is evil to everyone that has a working moral compass.

I actually find a lot of the people who attack Islam for being immoral think morality is subjective.

[ECKU]

Slavery is dogmatically halal, that can't be argued. It's not desirable or necessary anymore, but it is entirely halal if done according to Shariaa.

So is spousal rape, raping female slaves, and killing gay people.

None of that is part of Al-Islam.

[ECKU]

So is spousal rape, raping female slaves, and killing gay people. Just because something is halal, doesn't mean it is good. In fact it seems that what is good in Islam is evil to everyone that has a working moral compass.

I actually find a lot of the people who attack Islam for being immoral think morality is subjective.

That's mostly from the atheists tho.

[A m e n r i a]

So is spousal rape, raping female slaves, and killing gay people.

None of that is part of Al-Islam.

The last bit is, isn't it?

[North German Realm]

That entity is literally the only one claiming it is not evil. You realize how poor your argument sounds, right? You're using an entity's own words ("I am not evil") to argue that it is not evil. Your god supports slavery, rape, unjust war, subjugation, and murder. Your god is evil. And that's ironic, because your god is the only entity that is actually evil, as opposed to "Chaotic".

You realize that His words dictate reality, right? So for Him, saying "I'm not evil" makes Him not evil. Sure, you can say all that delicious blasphemy, but it'll only hold water if, I dunno, you were the ominpotent one in charge of the omniverse?

The problem rises when his word is the only """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""evidence"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" of his omnipotence too. If he says he's good while he's evidently, demonstrably, and visibly evil, he's lying about his omnipotence too.

[Al Mumtahanah]

None of that is part of Al-Islam.

The last bit is, isn't it?

Sodomy is a criminal offense but being gay itself isn't.

[Al Mumtahanah]

You realize that His words dictate reality, right? So for Him, saying "I'm not evil" makes Him not evil. Sure, you can say all that delicious blasphemy, but it'll only hold water if, I dunno, you were the ominpotent one in charge of the omniverse?

The problem rises when his word is the only """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""evidence"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" of his omnipotence too. If he says he's good while he's evidently, demonstrably, and visibly evil, he's lying about his omnipotence too.

Demonstrate it

[North German Realm]

The problem rises when his word is the only """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""evidence"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" of his omnipotence too. If he says he's good while he's evidently, demonstrably, and visibly evil, he's lying about his omnipotence too.

Demonstrate it

It supports slavery, genocide, wanton murder, (in certain situations) lying, unjust war, and subjugation of "the other". That makes it demonstrably evil. And anyone who supports it evil by proxy.

[A m e n r i a]

The last bit is, isn't it?

Sodomy is a criminal offense but being gay itself isn't.

Isn't that a package deal?

[ECKU]

Sodomy is a criminal offense but being gay itself isn't.

Isn't that a package deal?

No

[A m e n r i a]

Isn't that a package deal?

No

How???

[ECKU]

No

How???

Because coming out isn't punishable, it's the actual sex that's punishable. Yes, homosexuality is wrong and no one should wear it is a badge of honor, but it's not punishable either. It's only the actual homosexual sex that is punishable.

[Bread Herbert]

How???

Because coming out isn't punishable, it's the actual sex that's punishable. Yes, homosexuality is wrong and no one should wear it is a badge of honor, but it's not punishable either. It's only the actual homosexual sex that is punishable.

There is nothing disgusting about an expression of love between two consenting adults. Your bigotry is disgusting, however.

[A m e n r i a]

How???

Because coming out isn't punishable, it's the actual sex that's punishable. Yes, homosexuality is wrong and no one should wear it is a badge of honor, but it's not punishable either. It's only the actual homosexual sex that is punishable.

I mean, could you really be sure a gay hasn't done that?

Because coming out isn't punishable, it's the actual sex that's punishable. Yes, homosexuality is wrong and no one should wear it is a badge of honor, but it's not punishable either. It's only the actual homosexual sex that is punishable.

There is nothing disgusting about an expression of love between two consenting adults. Your bigotry is disgusting, however.

An expression of love between two people of the same gender is disgusting. Not to mention unnatural. God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

[Al Mumtahanah]

Demonstrate it

It supports slavery, genocide, wanton murder, (in certain situations) lying, unjust war, and subjugation of "the other". That makes it demonstrably evil. And anyone who supports it evil by proxy.

Please demonstrate slavery is evil. Genocide, no. Wanton killing, no. Lying is allowed to save lives, how is that evil. Please demonstrate jihad is unjust. Subjugation is what all government does.

[ECKU]

Because coming out isn't punishable, it's the actual sex that's punishable. Yes, homosexuality is wrong and no one should wear it is a badge of honor, but it's not punishable either. It's only the actual homosexual sex that is punishable.

I mean, could you really be sure a gay hasn't done that?

Hasn't done what? Have sex?

[A m e n r i a]

I mean, could you really be sure a gay hasn't done that?

Hasn't done what? Have sex?

Yea, that. *shudders