Islamic Discussion Thread ٥: Free Tajweed, Absolutely Halaal

[Al Mumtahanah]

Each madhab has plenty of dissent within but I think it is important to follow one because Shariaa is a law and law requires judges ruling as opposed to individual interpretation.

Fully agreed, hence why I'll still follow a certain ruling from a madhhab. Just not any specific one all the time.

Do you have an aqidah?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Fully agreed, hence why I'll still follow a certain ruling from a madhhab. Just not any specific one all the time.

Do you have an aqidah?

I don't know enough about them to choose one.

[Al Mumtahanah]

Do you have an aqidah?

I don't know enough about them to choose one.

Are you interested in books pertaining to them?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I don't know enough about them to choose one.

Are you interested in books pertaining to them?

Very interested, I want to know more about 'aqidah and fiqh in general.

[A m e n r i a]

It's helpful when you're an immigrant. Most mosques in Indonesia are Syafi'i, while the central mosque here in Changchun follows a different madzhab.

Yeah. Another reason is that my masjid doesn't really follow a madhhab. I'm not even sure if most of the brothers and sisters there know what a madhhab is (though I may be assuming here). My masjid follows the teachings of Imam Warith Deen Mohammed

I don't think it's possible for a mosque to not follow a madzhab. How would they do Eid prayers?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Yeah. Another reason is that my masjid doesn't really follow a madhhab. I'm not even sure if most of the brothers and sisters there know what a madhhab is (though I may be assuming here). My masjid follows the teachings of Imam Warith Deen Mohammed

I don't think it's possible for a mosque to not follow a madzhab. How would they do Eid prayers?

The Imams go to a meeting in [city name redacted for personal reasons] and - in the case of RamaDaan - I guess either sight the moon or debate when Eid'll begin (I believe the former).

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Maybe the head Imam does follow a madhhab and I don't know it, idk.

[A m e n r i a]

I don't think it's possible for a mosque to not follow a madzhab. How would they do Eid prayers?

The Imams go to a meeting in [city name redacted for personal reasons] and - in the case of RamaDaan - I guess either sight the moon or debate when Eid'll begin (I believe the former).

I meant the procedure of the prayer itself, like what happens after everyone is gathered in the designated field on Idul Fitri.

[Al Mumtahanah]

Are you interested in books pertaining to them?

Very interested, I want to know more about 'aqidah and fiqh in general.

For Maturidi there is "Tabsirat al-Adilla", for Ashari there is "Iyha Ulum al-Din", for Athari there is Ibn Taymiyya's "Kitab al Iman". A good general book is "The Cambridge Companion to Classical Islamic Theology". "Al Ghazali's Philosophical Theology" is an easy read and makes a case that Al Ghzali was, contrary to reputation, not purely Ashari. For fiqh you should start with "Al Muwatta".

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Very interested, I want to know more about 'aqidah and fiqh in general.

For Maturidi there is "Tabsirat al-Adilla", for Ashari there is "Iyha Ulum al-Din", for Athari there is Ibn Taymiyya's "Kitab al Iman". A good general book is "The Cambridge Companion to Classical Islamic Theology". "Al Ghazali's Philosophical Theology" is an easy read and makes a case that Al Ghzali was, contrary to reputation, not purely Ashari. For fiqh you should start with "Al Muwatta".

Jazakallah Khairan. Are these books translated into English? I don't speak much Arabic.

The Imams go to a meeting in [city name redacted for personal reasons] and - in the case of RamaDaan - I guess either sight the moon or debate when Eid'll begin (I believe the former).

I meant the procedure of the prayer itself, like what happens after everyone is gathered in the designated field on Idul Fitri.

Do you mean Eid Salah? I thought it was the same all around.

[Al Mumtahanah]

It's helpful when you're an immigrant. Most mosques in Indonesia are Syafi'i, while the central mosque here in Changchun follows a different madzhab.

Yeah. Another reason is that my masjid doesn't really follow a madhhab. I'm not even sure if most of the brothers and sisters there know what a madhhab is (though I may be assuming here). My masjid follows the teachings of Imam Warith Deen Mohammed

It said in the article he supported developing a fifth madhab since each region usually has the hegemony of a madhab in Sharia but America has no one suited to it. This is possible but it would be an extraordinary undertaking.

[Al Mumtahanah]

For Maturidi there is "Tabsirat al-Adilla", for Ashari there is "Iyha Ulum al-Din", for Athari there is Ibn Taymiyya's "Kitab al Iman". A good general book is "The Cambridge Companion to Classical Islamic Theology". "Al Ghazali's Philosophical Theology" is an easy read and makes a case that Al Ghzali was, contrary to reputation, not purely Ashari. For fiqh you should start with "Al Muwatta".

Jazakallah Khairan. Are these books translated into English? I don't speak much Arabic.

I meant the procedure of the prayer itself, like what happens after everyone is gathered in the designated field on Idul Fitri.

Do you mean Eid Salah? I thought it was the same all around.

I don't know if Tabsirat al-Adilla is, I know for certain the others are.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Yeah. Another reason is that my masjid doesn't really follow a madhhab. I'm not even sure if most of the brothers and sisters there know what a madhhab is (though I may be assuming here). My masjid follows the teachings of Imam Warith Deen Mohammed

It said in the article he supported developing a fifth madhab since each region usually has the hegemony of a madhab in Sharia but America has no one suited to it. This is possible but it would be an extraordinary undertaking.

Personally I'd say he did do that. Many Muslims -at least the ones who follow him - didn't have the resources to read other Islamic books (we were either converts from Chrsitianity or converts from the NOI) so we really only had him to guide us on the Deen. He was a very influential leader so his legacy and influence is long lasting.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Jazakallah Khairan. Are these books translated into English? I don't speak much Arabic.

Do you mean Eid Salah? I thought it was the same all around.

I don't know if Tabsirat al-Adilla is, I know for certain the others are.

Ok, thanks a bunch, I'll read them for sure

[Al Mumtahanah]

It said in the article he supported developing a fifth madhab since each region usually has the hegemony of a madhab in Sharia but America has no one suited to it. This is possible but it would be an extraordinary undertaking.

Personally I'd say he did do that. Many Muslims -at least the ones who follow him - didn't have the resources to read other Islamic books (we were either converts from Chrsitianity or converts from the NOI) so we really only had him to guide us on the Deen. He was a very influential leader so his legacy and influence is long lasting.

That would be referred to by his name, e.g. Deeni madhab. Although it is tentative as America does not currently allow Shariaa courts and it would need to eventually establish penal procedure and so forth.

[Al Mumtahanah]

I don't know if Tabsirat al-Adilla is, I know for certain the others are.

Ok, thanks a bunch, I'll read them for sure

Afwan

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Personally I'd say he did do that. Many Muslims -at least the ones who follow him - didn't have the resources to read other Islamic books (we were either converts from Chrsitianity or converts from the NOI) so we really only had him to guide us on the Deen. He was a very influential leader so his legacy and influence is long lasting.

That would be referred to by his name, e.g. Deeni madhab. Although it is tentative as America does not currently allow Shariaa courts and it would need to eventually establish penal procedure and so forth.

I like Warithi better
You have a point though, but I don't see Shari'ah courts coming up anytime soon here unfortunately.

[A m e n r i a]

That would be referred to by his name, e.g. Deeni madhab. Although it is tentative as America does not currently allow Shariaa courts and it would need to eventually establish penal procedure and so forth.

I like Warithi better
You have a point though, but I don't see Shari'ah courts coming up anytime soon here unfortunately.

*prays fervently for the entire CPC to convert to Sunni Islam*

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I like Warithi better
You have a point though, but I don't see Shari'ah courts coming up anytime soon here unfortunately.

*prays fervently for the entire CPC to convert to Sunni Islam*

Ikr Islamic China ftw!

[A m e n r i a]

*prays fervently for the entire CPC to convert to Sunni Islam*

Ikr Islamic China ftw!

Ma Clique v2.0

[Jolthig]

*prays fervently for the entire CPC to convert to Sunni Islam*

Ikr Islamic China ftw!

Inshallah

[Cappuccina]

I just go with whatever ruling uses the best daleel.
Cool, a Maaliki Ash'ari (or are you Athari?)

If you only accept the Qur'an or Sunnah for fatawa, that is Hanbali. They do not accept precedent but require proof from the Qur'an or Sunnah for every fatwa and do not accept any as valid without such direct proof. I am Ashari, I am a big fan of The Revival of the Religious Sciences.

Hanbali is pretty close to my own views on Islamic law. Too many Islamic countries make ridiculous fatwa without basis in Quran or the Sunnah.

[Al Mumtahanah]

If you only accept the Qur'an or Sunnah for fatawa, that is Hanbali. They do not accept precedent but require proof from the Qur'an or Sunnah for every fatwa and do not accept any as valid without such direct proof. I am Ashari, I am a big fan of The Revival of the Religious Sciences.

Hanbali is pretty close to my own views on Islamic law. Too many Islamic countries make ridiculous fatwa without basis in Quran or the Sunnah.

It is by far the smallest school but of disproportionate influence.

[Al Mumtahanah]

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[Zizou]

Salam brothers, I'm back now that I've gotten a new computer