Islamic Discussion Thread ٥: Free Tajweed, Absolutely Halaal

[The Blaatschapen]

If you are a muslim on board of the ISS, which rotates around the earth fairly fast, how would you ensure that during your prayer you always face Mecca (besides facing downwards)?

[Jolthig]

If you are a muslim on board of the ISS, which rotates around the earth fairly fast, how would you ensure that during your prayer you always face Mecca (besides facing downwards)?

Given that the ISS constantly travels around the earth, I believe the Prophet's ruling on this subject is the same as those who on a journey: They may face whatever is convenient for them since one is on a journey and does not know where Mecca is or is not able able to face Mecca. So one may do salat any direction they wish, though I'd personally face earth itself, and it might be preferable that way.

[The Blaatschapen]

If you are a muslim on board of the ISS, which rotates around the earth fairly fast, how would you ensure that during your prayer you always face Mecca (besides facing downwards)?

Given that the ISS constantly travels around the earth, I believe the Prophet's ruling on this subject is the same as those who on a journey: They may face whatever is convenient for them since one is on a journey and does not know where Mecca is or is not able able to face Mecca. So one may do salat any direction they wish, though I'd personally face earth itself, and it might be preferable that way.

Ah, thank you, I didn't know that

[Jolthig]

Given that the ISS constantly travels around the earth, I believe the Prophet's ruling on this subject is the same as those who on a journey: They may face whatever is convenient for them since one is on a journey and does not know where Mecca is or is not able able to face Mecca. So one may do salat any direction they wish, though I'd personally face earth itself, and it might be preferable that way.

Ah, thank you, I didn't know that

Not a problem.

[A m e n r i a]

Wouldn't the same apply to Muslims who are out of the planet? Say, if we managed to make hotels on Mars or something.

[Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory]

Wouldn't the same apply to Muslims who are out of the planet? Say, if we managed to make hotels on Mars or something.

Or hell, out of the solar system

[A m e n r i a]

Wouldn't the same apply to Muslims who are out of the planet? Say, if we managed to make hotels on Mars or something.

Or hell, out of the solar system

Yup, human or otherwise.

[The Alma Mater]

Or hell, out of the solar system

Yup, human or otherwise.

Alien muslims.. ohmy.

[Jolthig]

Wouldn't the same apply to Muslims who are out of the planet? Say, if we managed to make hotels on Mars or something.

Yes. Muslims must face earth if they're on other planets.

[Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory]

Wouldn't the same apply to Muslims who are out of the planet? Say, if we managed to make hotels on Mars or something.

Yes. Muslims must face earth if they're on other planets.

Face the solar system if they're out of the Solar System?

[The Alma Mater]

Yes. Muslims must face earth if they're on other planets.

Face the solar system if they're out of the Solar System?

How would that work in primitive alien muslim societies where the solar system is not visible with the naked eye and astronomy is not advanced enough yet ?

[Rojava Free State]

Face the solar system if they're out of the Solar System?

How would that work in primitive alien muslim societies where the solar system is not visible with the naked eye and astronomy is not advanced enough yet ?

If they have received islam, they must know what star system it came from

Man that really raises a question. Do aliens need to be Muslim to receive salvation? I mean I know technically under the rules of Islam you don't absolutely have to be Muslim to avoid going to hell, but you do have to believe in one God, but those kinds of rules don't apply to animals. If they don't apply to animals, do they apply to non human lifeforms from other planets?

[The Alma Mater]

How would that work in primitive alien muslim societies where the solar system is not visible with the naked eye and astronomy is not advanced enough yet ?

If they have received islam, they must know what star system it came from

Man that really raises a question. Do aliens need to be Muslim to receive salvation? I mean I know technically under the rules of Islam you don't absolutely have to be Muslim to avoid going to hell, but you do have to believe in one God, but those kinds of rules don't apply to animals. If they don't apply to animals, do they apply to non human lifeforms from other planets?

Hadj would be pretty tricky in any case.

[A m e n r i a]

How would that work in primitive alien muslim societies where the solar system is not visible with the naked eye and astronomy is not advanced enough yet ?

If they have received islam, they must know what star system it came from

Man that really raises a question. Do aliens need to be Muslim to receive salvation? I mean I know technically under the rules of Islam you don't absolutely have to be Muslim to avoid going to hell, but you do have to believe in one God, but those kinds of rules don't apply to animals. If they don't apply to animals, do they apply to non human lifeforms from other planets?

I think the rules that apply to humans should also apply to anything with sentience. Wallahu alam.

[Jolthig]

Yes. Muslims must face earth if they're on other planets.

Face the solar system if they're out of the Solar System?

Yeah, or at least towards the sun if one can see it or if far away, face the constellation we are in.

[Jolthig]

Face the solar system if they're out of the Solar System?

How would that work in primitive alien muslim societies where the solar system is not visible with the naked eye and astronomy is not advanced enough yet ?

Only humans are Muslim.

[Jolthig]

How would that work in primitive alien muslim societies where the solar system is not visible with the naked eye and astronomy is not advanced enough yet ?

If they have received islam, they must know what star system it came from

Man that really raises a question. Do aliens need to be Muslim to receive salvation? I mean I know technically under the rules of Islam you don't absolutely have to be Muslim to avoid going to hell, but you do have to believe in one God, but those kinds of rules don't apply to animals. If they don't apply to animals, do they apply to non human lifeforms from other planets?

It is only humans that are given the choice of heaven or hell. All other lifeforms while having souls, don't have those options. They have their own laws - nature itself.

[Rojava Free State]

If they have received islam, they must know what star system it came from

Man that really raises a question. Do aliens need to be Muslim to receive salvation? I mean I know technically under the rules of Islam you don't absolutely have to be Muslim to avoid going to hell, but you do have to believe in one God, but those kinds of rules don't apply to animals. If they don't apply to animals, do they apply to non human lifeforms from other planets?

It is only humans that are given the choice of heaven or hell. All other lifeforms while having souls, don't have those options. They have their own laws - nature itself.

So what happens to them when they die?

[A m e n r i a]

How would that work in primitive alien muslim societies where the solar system is not visible with the naked eye and astronomy is not advanced enough yet ?

Only humans are Muslim.

For now.

[Jolthig]

It is only humans that are given the choice of heaven or hell. All other lifeforms while having souls, don't have those options. They have their own laws - nature itself.

So what happens to them when they die?

Given that there isn't really a distinction between right and wrong for animals, i am not sure since they don't have a revealed law like humans do.

[Jolthig]

Only humans are Muslim.

For now.

Perhaps. Allah knows best.

[A m e n r i a]

For now.

Perhaps. Allah knows best.

Yea. Don't all animals go to Heaven? Doesn't that mean xenos will too?

[Jolthig]

Perhaps. Allah knows best.

Yea. Don't all animals go to Heaven? Doesn't that mean xenos will too?

Animals neither go to heaven nor hell.

The same with aliens in this universe unless if Allah somehow reveals otherwise. (Allah knows best.)

[The Alma Mater]

How would that work in primitive alien muslim societies where the solar system is not visible with the naked eye and astronomy is not advanced enough yet ?

Only humans are Muslim.

A pity. I was looking forward to the flying saucers arriving at Mecca.

[Rojava Free State]

Yea. Don't all animals go to Heaven? Doesn't that mean xenos will too?

Animals neither go to heaven nor hell.

The same with aliens in this universe unless if Allah somehow reveals otherwise. (Allah knows best.)

So no one knows where animals go when they die?