This is absolutely untrue.
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by Kowani » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:33 am
by Holy Tedalonia » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:37 am
by Israeli Commonwealth » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:30 pm
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Israeli Commonwealth wrote:Lmao
They are a hilarious bunch aren't they? Considering their entire argument is essentially "the nazis are socialist because it's In the name, but they aren't nationalist despite it being in the name". Calling Nazism socialism is like saying social democracy and libertarianism are the same thing because they both tend to promote social liberties.
by New Sukberia » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:19 pm
by New Sukberia » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:19 pm
Israeli Commonwealth wrote:Bezkoshtovnya wrote:They are a hilarious bunch aren't they? Considering their entire argument is essentially "the nazis are socialist because it's In the name, but they aren't nationalist despite it being in the name". Calling Nazism socialism is like saying social democracy and libertarianism are the same thing because they both tend to promote social liberties.
They were socialist and nationalist. They had the government control the market. A.K.A Socialism
by New Sukberia » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:20 pm
by Israeli Commonwealth » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:53 pm
by Tokora » Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:30 pm
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Honestly the current Israeli government is an alt right dream
Don’t they constantly use it as an example?
New Sukberia wrote:Then again, i bzt you think Huey Long was a socialist too, by your standards.
Israeli Commonwealth wrote:They were socialist and nationalist. They had the government control the market. A.K.A Socialism
by United Savage Imperial States » Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:33 pm
Tokora wrote:Throughout his presidency, Trump seems to have been giving mixed signals to the Jewish people. Trump has public support from alt-right groups (neo-nazis, kkk, etc.) and has made it clear he has no intention whatsoever of condemning them for their words or actions. On the other hand, Trump is very pro-Israel backing them on moving into Gaza and moving the embassy to Jerusalem along with having Jews including immediate family in his administration.
Knowing the "tense" history between the far-right and the Jewish people, I honestly have no idea how he has both as allies at the same time.
What would happen though if Trump was forced to make a choice? Let's say that an extremist Neo-Nazi (if it's even possible to be more extreme for these people) organization that become mainstream (as in consuming most of the right and even a few politicians) that demands cutting all ties with Israel, condemning all criticism of Nazi Germany or the CSA in classrooms, public denial of the Holocaust, the firing of all Jewish Government employees such as Kushner, and demands for a modern solution to the "Jewish problem". If forced between his "good people" or Israel, who would he choose and why?
I know that a group like that is extremely unlikely (at least I hope) to be successful in modern America but I wanted to take Trump's alliance with the Right to it's logical conclusion.
Personally I think he'd cut ties with Israel because he loves his base and has a history of extreme indifference to morality.
by Pannerstone » Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:37 pm
Tokora wrote:Throughout his presidency, Trump seems to have been giving mixed signals to the Jewish people. Trump has public support from alt-right groups (neo-nazis, kkk, etc.) and has made it clear he has no intention whatsoever of condemning them for their words or actions. On the other hand, Trump is very pro-Israel backing them on moving into Gaza and moving the embassy to Jerusalem along with having Jews including immediate family in his administration.
Knowing the "tense" history between the far-right and the Jewish people, I honestly have no idea how he has both as allies at the same time.
What would happen though if Trump was forced to make a choice? Let's say that an extremist Neo-Nazi (if it's even possible to be more extreme for these people) organization that become mainstream (as in consuming most of the right and even a few politicians) that demands cutting all ties with Israel, condemning all criticism of Nazi Germany or the CSA in classrooms, public denial of the Holocaust, the firing of all Jewish Government employees such as Kushner, and demands for a modern solution to the "Jewish problem". If forced between his "good people" or Israel, who would he choose and why?
I know that a group like that is extremely unlikely (at least I hope) to be successful in modern America but I wanted to take Trump's alliance with the Right to it's logical conclusion.
Personally I think he'd cut ties with Israel because he loves his base and has a history of extreme indifference to morality.
by Pannerstone » Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:39 pm
by Israeli Commonwealth » Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:41 pm
Pannerstone wrote:Tokora wrote:Throughout his presidency, Trump seems to have been giving mixed signals to the Jewish people. Trump has public support from alt-right groups (neo-nazis, kkk, etc.) and has made it clear he has no intention whatsoever of condemning them for their words or actions. On the other hand, Trump is very pro-Israel backing them on moving into Gaza and moving the embassy to Jerusalem along with having Jews including immediate family in his administration.
Knowing the "tense" history between the far-right and the Jewish people, I honestly have no idea how he has both as allies at the same time.
What would happen though if Trump was forced to make a choice? Let's say that an extremist Neo-Nazi (if it's even possible to be more extreme for these people) organization that become mainstream (as in consuming most of the right and even a few politicians) that demands cutting all ties with Israel, condemning all criticism of Nazi Germany or the CSA in classrooms, public denial of the Holocaust, the firing of all Jewish Government employees such as Kushner, and demands for a modern solution to the "Jewish problem". If forced between his "good people" or Israel, who would he choose and why?
I know that a group like that is extremely unlikely (at least I hope) to be successful in modern America but I wanted to take Trump's alliance with the Right to it's logical conclusion.
Personally I think he'd cut ties with Israel because he loves his base and has a history of extreme indifference to morality.
Well said my friend
1. Trump has denounced them, just because he didn't get on his knees and cradle left-wing balls doing it dosn't mean he is on their side.
2. He is not Hitler Reborn, get over it
3. Trump wouldn't be forced to make that choice because it's not going to happen, even more ridiculous is your concept of "logical conclusion" considering that he is doing things that are very anti-authoritarian(He literally signed an executive order protecting free speech on campus, ironically this had to be done because of the LEFT WING attacking free thinkers and denying them a platform at every turn)
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