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Postby Major-Tom » Tue May 07, 2019 4:15 pm

Heloin wrote:
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Rum & Root Beer.


Miss me with that shit, it's all about a proper Gin & Tonic.

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Postby Dresderstan » Tue May 07, 2019 4:16 pm

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Dresderstan wrote:I haven't watched Geography Now in a good year or so and from what I remember it was quite educational and even funny from time to time

If you watch them again and like them fair enough that's fine. But I saw their Mozambique episode recently and it was genuinely troubling for me to hear them glossing over the very recent, unbelievably violent, civil war as basically "it's all good now" then moving onto beaches and tourist spots.

Well tbh not everyone wants to hear about it in gory details, plus they have a short time limit to get episodes out, and the channel largely focuses on the geography, and not the history/recent events. Just saying, no offense.

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Postby Valrifell » Tue May 07, 2019 4:18 pm

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Dresderstan wrote:I haven't watched Geography Now in a good year or so and from what I remember it was quite educational and even funny from time to time

If you watch them again and like them fair enough that's fine. But I saw their Mozambique episode recently and it was genuinely troubling for me to hear them glossing over the very recent, unbelievably violent, civil war as basically "it's all good now" then moving onto beaches and tourist spots.


I agree and identify with this strongly, like when they did the Burma/Myanmar episode and barely mentioned the genocide and more or less treated it as a "both sides wrong"

What really grinds me gears is that they regularly refer to major geopolitical instability as "drama". Like, no, people seriously and actually died.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Tue May 07, 2019 4:22 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Heloin wrote:If you watch them again and like them fair enough that's fine. But I saw their Mozambique episode recently and it was genuinely troubling for me to hear them glossing over the very recent, unbelievably violent, civil war as basically "it's all good now" then moving onto beaches and tourist spots.

I agree and identify with this strongly, like when they did the Burma/Myanmar episode and barely mentioned the genocide and more or less treated it as a "both sides wrong"

What really grinds me gears is that they regularly refer to major geopolitical instability as "drama". Like, no, people seriously and actually died.

Makes you wonder if they do it on purpose, for clearly it is a recurrent theme with those guys.


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Postby Valrifell » Tue May 07, 2019 4:24 pm

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Valrifell wrote:I agree and identify with this strongly, like when they did the Burma/Myanmar episode and barely mentioned the genocide and more or less treated it as a "both sides wrong"

What really grinds me gears is that they regularly refer to major geopolitical instability as "drama". Like, no, people seriously and actually died.

Makes you wonder if they do it on purpose, for clearly it is a recurrent theme with those guys.


I mean, I get why they do it because it's like an entry-level geography/geopolitics channel and it's their job so going too far might cost them money, but at the same time there's that fine line between making something like this marketable and misleading your audience.
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Postby Heloin » Tue May 07, 2019 4:33 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
Heloin wrote:If you watch them again and like them fair enough that's fine. But I saw their Mozambique episode recently and it was genuinely troubling for me to hear them glossing over the very recent, unbelievably violent, civil war as basically "it's all good now" then moving onto beaches and tourist spots.

Well tbh not everyone wants to hear about it in gory details, plus they have a short time limit to get episodes out, and the channel largely focuses on the geography, and not the history/recent events. Just saying, no offense.

And I don't think they should go into the details. But brushing aside countries national traumas that have only recently ended or are still ongoing with remarks like "drama" is kind of uncomfortable.

Just try and imagine what there videos will be like for places like Syria. Niger and Mali have been suffering major internal wars recently/currently and they brushed those aside like it was nothing.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue May 07, 2019 4:34 pm

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Valrifell wrote:I agree and identify with this strongly, like when they did the Burma/Myanmar episode and barely mentioned the genocide and more or less treated it as a "both sides wrong"

What really grinds me gears is that they regularly refer to major geopolitical instability as "drama". Like, no, people seriously and actually died.

Makes you wonder if they do it on purpose, for clearly it is a recurrent theme with those guys.

"Let's go go the killing fields and watch people die. And maybe you too", tends to drive away those tourism dollars.
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Postby Heloin » Tue May 07, 2019 4:35 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:Makes you wonder if they do it on purpose, for clearly it is a recurrent theme with those guys.

"Let's go go the killing fields and watch people die. And maybe you too", tends to drive away those tourism dollars.

You say that but a major stop on the tourist trail in Cambodia is the killing fields.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue May 07, 2019 4:38 pm

Heloin wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:"Let's go go the killing fields and watch people die. And maybe you too", tends to drive away those tourism dollars.

You say that but a major stop on the tourist trail in Cambodia is the killing fields.

Auschwitz too, but they ain't currently cooking people there.
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Postby Heloin » Tue May 07, 2019 4:40 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Heloin wrote:You say that but a major stop on the tourist trail in Cambodia is the killing fields.

Auschwitz too, but they ain't currently cooking people there.

And I don't think people should pretend active war zones are hot tourist spots. Which is what this was about.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue May 07, 2019 4:42 pm

Heloin wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Auschwitz too, but they ain't currently cooking people there.

And I don't think people should pretend active war zones are hot tourist spots. Which is what this was about.

no sense of adventure, have you.


You cant expect a showing off tourist spots show to be talking about war, which was my point.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue May 07, 2019 4:49 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Heloin wrote:Rum & Root Beer.


Miss me with that shit, it's all about a proper Gin & Tonic.

Rum and root beer sounds like something I'm try once. I agree, a proper G&T can't be beat, except maybe sometimes by a Pink Gin. Easy to make and quite refreshing.
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Postby Heloin » Tue May 07, 2019 4:49 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Heloin wrote:And I don't think people should pretend active war zones are hot tourist spots. Which is what this was about.

no sense of adventure, have you.


You cant expect a showing off tourist spots show to be talking about war, which was my point.

If someone wants to be a tourist in a war zone be my guest. I do tours on Mondays through Fridays.

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Postby Heloin » Tue May 07, 2019 4:51 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Miss me with that shit, it's all about a proper Gin & Tonic.

Rum and root beer sounds like something I'm try once. I agree, a proper G&T can't be beat, except maybe sometimes by a Pink Gin. Easy to make and quite refreshing.

Hey, I haven't tried the R&RB yet so it may yet be good. Also I'm a heathen and don't care much for G&T.

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Postby Heloin » Tue May 07, 2019 4:52 pm

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Postby Pasong Tirad » Tue May 07, 2019 5:04 pm

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Heloin wrote:If you like cute characters and you liked the film 127 Hours, you'll like the Manga/Anime she's from called Made in Abyss.

I wish imperial japan was back

I hope I speak for most of Southeast Asia when I say that I really wish it wasn't.

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Postby Abserdia » Tue May 07, 2019 5:21 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:I wish imperial japan was back

I hope I speak for most of Southeast Asia when I say that I really wish it wasn't.

I think most of East Asia in general agrees with you, actually. I can't really say, though.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue May 07, 2019 5:39 pm

Heloin wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote: no sense of adventure, have you.


You cant expect a showing off tourist spots show to be talking about war, which was my point.

If someone wants to be a tourist in a war zone be my guest. I do tours on Mondays through Fridays.

Those photos would go nice in the album to reminisce about the good old days, with marlaira and servants in the tree, why the colonel was just remaking to me ....
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue May 07, 2019 5:42 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Heloin wrote:If you like cute characters and you liked the film 127 Hours, you'll like the Manga/Anime she's from called Made in Abyss.

I wish imperial japan was back

A perfectly fine poster, agreed
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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue May 07, 2019 6:53 pm

You're having yourself a nice, relaxing night. Then you get up to shut the curtains and nearly touch what an image search later identified as a brown recluse spider.

I might just leave them shut for the next few days.
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Postby Dylar » Tue May 07, 2019 6:58 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:You're having yourself a nice, relaxing night. Then you get up to shut the curtains and nearly touch what an image search later identified as a brown recluse spider.

I might just leave them shut for the next few days.

Just get a lighter and an aerosol can and all your spiders problems will be purified away
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue May 07, 2019 7:16 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:You're having yourself a nice, relaxing night. Then you get up to shut the curtains and nearly touch what an image search later identified as a brown recluse spider.

I might just leave them shut for the next few days.


Smart move - I encountered a Wolf Spider the size of my palm two weeks ago or so. Found the fucker in my bathroom sink, assumed the roommate left the door open for the umpteenth time.

Regardless, owing to it's size and how freaky that S.O.B was, I spent a good fifteen minutes trying catch it before finally managing to knock it into the toilet. I was proud the rest of the day.

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Postby Andsed » Tue May 07, 2019 7:18 pm

Dylar wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:You're having yourself a nice, relaxing night. Then you get up to shut the curtains and nearly touch what an image search later identified as a brown recluse spider.

I might just leave them shut for the next few days.

Just get a lighter tank and an aerosol can a A-10 warthog and all your spiders problems will be purified away

FITY :p
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Postby Valrifell » Tue May 07, 2019 7:19 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:You're having yourself a nice, relaxing night. Then you get up to shut the curtains and nearly touch what an image search later identified as a brown recluse spider.

I might just leave them shut for the next few days.


Smart move - I encountered a Wolf Spider the size of my palm two weeks ago or so. Found the fucker in my bathroom sink, assumed the roommate left the door open for the umpteenth time.

Regardless, owing to it's size and how freaky that S.O.B was, I spent a good fifteen minutes trying catch it before finally managing to knock it into the toilet. I was proud the rest of the day.


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