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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Thu May 09, 2019 7:07 am

Abserdia wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:I think I recall JonTron saying that what he said was wrong and that he didn't research it and that he apologized and recanted. Not sure tho.

I haven’t watched him since his video about the debate but it sure wasn’t apologetic.

Okay, I think his most recent representative statement on it would be this. From a h3h3 podcast a year and a half ago. Not as apologetic as I remember, unfortunately, but he does admit he was being a dunce and had his foot in his mouth.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu May 09, 2019 7:07 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Andsed wrote:WHAT?

ProJared got caught cheating on his wife and sending dick pics to people, and allegedly grooming minors, asking them for nudes. JonTron went on a livestream with Destiny where he said some mildly racist shit.

It was probably because of medication they took, because that has been the more popular "apology" used by celebrities who fucked up recently.


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Postby Jetan » Thu May 09, 2019 7:08 am

How I wish people would tell their kids to be quiet and behave in public...
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Thu May 09, 2019 7:08 am

Jetan wrote:
Andsed wrote:




Damm I am living under a rock because this is the first I heard about any of this.

This is the first I heard about these people.

If you haven't heard of JonTron, you've been missing out to be honest. If you're into retro video games and reaction comedy, I'd check him out.
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Jetan
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Postby Jetan » Thu May 09, 2019 7:09 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Abserdia wrote:I haven’t watched him since his video about the debate but it sure wasn’t apologetic.

Okay, I think his most recent representative statement on it would be this. From a h3h3 podcast a year and a half ago. Not as apologetic as I remember, unfortunately, but he does admit he was being a dunce and had his foot in his mouth.

Oh, that guy. I've seen his annoying face somewhere before. Never watched any of his videos though.
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Jetan
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Postby Jetan » Thu May 09, 2019 7:10 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Jetan wrote:This is the first I heard about these people.

If you haven't heard of JonTron, you've been missing out to be honest. If you're into retro video games and reaction comedy, I'd check him out.

Retro games, yeah. Reaction comedy, not so much. These days I mostly watch MTG videos and Forgotten Weapons (and music obviously).
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Second Finn, after Imm
........Геть Росію.........
Україна вільна і єдина
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.
Beholder's Lair - a hobby blog
32 years old, patriotic Finnish guy interested in history. Hobbies include miniatures, all kinds of games, books, anime and manga.
Always open to TGs. Pro/Against

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu May 09, 2019 7:11 am

Jetan wrote:
Andsed wrote:




Damm I am living under a rock because this is the first I heard about any of this.

This is the first I heard about these people.

While I was hardly even aware those persons even existed. Without looking them up I'm going to guess they got famous due to their YouTube videos.


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Postby Jetan » Thu May 09, 2019 7:12 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Jetan wrote:This is the first I heard about these people.

While I was hardly even aware those persons even existed. Without looking them up I'm going to guess they got famous due to their YouTube videos.

I assumed twitch due to the use of "streamer", but yeah it seems they're youtubers.
Second Finn, after Imm
........Геть Росію.........
Україна вільна і єдина
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.
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Always open to TGs. Pro/Against

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu May 09, 2019 7:14 am

Jetan wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:While I was hardly even aware those persons even existed. Without looking them up I'm going to guess they got famous due to their YouTube videos.

I assumed twitch due to the use of "streamer", but yeah it seems they're youtubers.

Providers of popular pulp, so to speak.


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Postby Valrifell » Thu May 09, 2019 7:16 am

ProJared's subreddit removed him as a mod so they can indulge in the brewing shitstorm without fear of [Comment Removed]
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Evil Dictators Happyland
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Thu May 09, 2019 7:19 am

Jetan wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:While I was hardly even aware those persons even existed. Without looking them up I'm going to guess they got famous due to their YouTube videos.

I assumed twitch due to the use of "streamer", but yeah it seems they're youtubers.

Both JonTron and ProJared predate Twitch's popularity IIRC.

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Postby Jetan » Thu May 09, 2019 7:20 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Jetan wrote:I assumed twitch due to the use of "streamer", but yeah it seems they're youtubers.

Both JonTron and ProJared predate Twitch's popularity IIRC.

Entirely possible. I've just never heard anyone call youtubers streamers before. Since, you know, it's not a streaming service.
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Second Finn, after Imm
........Геть Росію.........
Україна вільна і єдина
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.
Beholder's Lair - a hobby blog
32 years old, patriotic Finnish guy interested in history. Hobbies include miniatures, all kinds of games, books, anime and manga.
Always open to TGs. Pro/Against

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Ardrentt
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Postby Ardrentt » Thu May 09, 2019 7:20 am

Valrifell wrote:ProJared's subreddit removed him as a mod so they can indulge in the brewing shitstorm without fear of [Comment Removed]

...well, I had a look and that's fun.

Ho boy.

I didn't get far before deciding to just not.

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Hurdergaryp
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu May 09, 2019 7:21 am

Valrifell wrote:ProJared's subreddit removed him as a mod so they can indulge in the brewing shitstorm without fear of [Comment Removed]

Undoubtedly that subreddit has already reached its boiling point, now that the shackles have been removed.


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Ardrentt
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Postby Ardrentt » Thu May 09, 2019 7:24 am

Jetan wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:Both JonTron and ProJared predate Twitch's popularity IIRC.

Entirely possible. I've just never heard anyone call youtubers streamers before. Since, you know, it's not a streaming service.

Let's plays are effectively short gameplay streams, so it's a fair enough comparison if that's your only point of reference.

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu May 09, 2019 7:31 am

Ardrentt wrote:
Jetan wrote:Entirely possible. I've just never heard anyone call youtubers streamers before. Since, you know, it's not a streaming service.

Let's plays are effectively short gameplay streams, so it's a fair enough comparison if that's your only point of reference.

Isn't a stream supposed to be a live event? Not that it truly matters, for you can just record your stream and dump it on YouTube later.


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Jetan
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Postby Jetan » Thu May 09, 2019 7:35 am

Ardrentt wrote:
Jetan wrote:Entirely possible. I've just never heard anyone call youtubers streamers before. Since, you know, it's not a streaming service.

Let's plays are effectively short gameplay streams, so it's a fair enough comparison if that's your only point of reference.

Well, not really. It's the same difference as watching live segment on the news or a recorded synopsis in the next broadcast.

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Ardrentt wrote:Let's plays are effectively short gameplay streams, so it's a fair enough comparison if that's your only point of reference.

Isn't a stream supposed to be a live event? Not that it truly matters, for you can just record your stream and dump it on YouTube later.

It is, yes.
Second Finn, after Imm
........Геть Росію.........
Україна вільна і єдина
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.
Beholder's Lair - a hobby blog
32 years old, patriotic Finnish guy interested in history. Hobbies include miniatures, all kinds of games, books, anime and manga.
Always open to TGs. Pro/Against

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Ardrentt
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Postby Ardrentt » Thu May 09, 2019 7:35 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Ardrentt wrote:Let's plays are effectively short gameplay streams, so it's a fair enough comparison if that's your only point of reference.

Isn't a stream supposed to be a live event? Not that it truly matters, for you can just record your stream and dump it on YouTube later.

Ah, I guess you got me there; I was thinking more of the unedited nature of those types of videos? Like, at least for the let's plays most people would think of (facecam, game playing for 15 minutes, the works)

Though I suppose that would make it a livestream... and a stream could count as the shortform for it, but it could also count as a "not live" stream... *really wish I could shrug with a smilie here*
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Postby Abserdia » Thu May 09, 2019 7:37 am

Streamer is just a shorthand to describe a person who regularly streams, even if they did get popular with YouTube and still get more viewers on YouTube.
JonTron is not a streamer, ProJared is half a streamer, and Commander Holly is definitely a streamer.
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Postby Andsed » Thu May 09, 2019 7:38 am

Valrifell wrote:ProJared's subreddit removed him as a mod so they can indulge in the brewing shitstorm without fear of [Comment Removed]

Yeah I am reading through it and just wow.
I do be tired


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Postby Ardrentt » Thu May 09, 2019 7:39 am

Abserdia wrote:Streamer is just a shorthand to describe a person who regularly streams, even if they did get popular with YouTube and still get more viewers on YouTube.
JonTron is not a streamer, ProJared is half a streamer, and Commander Holly is definitely a streamer.

Alright, thanks for educating lil ol' me. :P

Let's put our minds off of the fact that I'm in my 20s. >.>

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Thu May 09, 2019 7:40 am

Jetan wrote:How I wish people would tell their kids to be quiet and behave in public...

Little kids can be so annoying.
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Postby Jetan » Thu May 09, 2019 7:48 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Jetan wrote:How I wish people would tell their kids to be quiet and behave in public...

Little kids can be so annoying.

I wouldn't mind them if they behaved, but it seems many parents aren't willing to teach nor command their kids anymore.
Second Finn, after Imm
........Геть Росію.........
Україна вільна і єдина
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.
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32 years old, patriotic Finnish guy interested in history. Hobbies include miniatures, all kinds of games, books, anime and manga.
Always open to TGs. Pro/Against

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Thu May 09, 2019 7:51 am

Jetan wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Little kids can be so annoying.

I wouldn't mind them if they behaved, but it seems many parents aren't willing to teach nor command their kids anymore.

That's true. Parents these days aren't willing to do anything that may "mess up" their kids.
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Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
If it's ugly, uncomfortable, and can't shoot straight, but it accomplishes the above, then it's either a Mosin or a Hi-Point."
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Postby Valrifell » Thu May 09, 2019 7:53 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Jetan wrote:I wouldn't mind them if they behaved, but it seems many parents aren't willing to teach nor command their kids anymore.

That's true. Parents these days aren't willing to do anything that may "mess up" their kids.


That's blatantly untrue, there are plenty negligent parents out in the world.
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