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Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories wrote:

Genivaria wrote:Yes, saying that a population decline based on race is good is in fact a racist statement.

I didn't say population decline. I was specifically talking about the decline in relative power between whites and non-whites. I would like to see the power that comes with being white completely eradicated, as it is power that exists solely through taking it from others, and not by any kind of merit.

.....what the fuck?

Ostroeuropa wrote:

Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories wrote:
Is it though?

I'm not arguing that white genocide is real but actually good, I'm saying that the end of a racial group's ability to dictate the terms of existence of literally everyone is a good thing. I fail to see how that's just as bad as being a literal neo-nazi.

White people don't dictate the terms of existence for literally everyone. Capitalists do, and they'll continue to dictate largely the same terms even if whites all died out tomorrow.

If you doubt it, just look at the type of empty, soulless, corporate capitalist minorities that the democrats are trying to shove down everyones throats while crowing about how positive and revolutionary "diversity" is just like you are here.

Quite literally the only thing that makes them different is their skin color.

Not to get sidetracked, but any kind of sentiment that isn't intersectional is counterrevolutionary, imo.

Purgatio wrote:

Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories wrote:
I didn't say population decline. I was specifically talking about the decline in relative power between whites and non-whites. I would like to see the power that comes with being white completely eradicated, as it is power that exists solely through taking it from others, and not by any kind of merit.

.....what the fuck?

Someone internalized the anti-white narrative.

Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories wrote:

Genivaria wrote:Yes, saying that a population decline based on race is good is in fact a racist statement.

I didn't say population decline. I was specifically talking about the decline in relative power between whites and non-whites. I would like to see the power that comes with being white completely eradicated, as it is power that exists solely through taking it from others, and not by any kind of merit.

Most of that so called "power/Privilege" idea is nonsense contrived in the minds of left-wing grievance studies professors who have drunk the cool aid.

Ostroeuropa wrote:

Purgatio wrote:
.....what the fuck?

Someone internalized the anti-white narrative.

Talk about being self-hating. But even then...wow...I'm speechless.

Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories wrote:

Ostroeuropa wrote:
White people don't dictate the terms of existence for literally everyone. Capitalists do, and they'll continue to dictate largely the same terms even if whites all died out tomorrow.

If you doubt it, just look at the type of empty, soulless, corporate capitalist minorities that the democrats are trying to shove down everyones throats while crowing about how positive and revolutionary "diversity" is just like you are here.

Quite literally the only thing that makes them different is their skin color.

Not to get sidetracked, but any kind of sentiment that isn't intersectional is counterrevolutionary, imo.

If you think whites declining in relative population will change how the country is run you are deluding yourself and ignoring the evidence right in front of you in the form of Kamala Harris, Booker, and so on.

All that will change is capitalism will pick a new ingroup because that is how it operates, and if you think whites shifting from ingroup to outgroup and being replaced in the ingroup by another race is positive, you are an anti-white racist.

Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories wrote:

Genivaria wrote:Yes, saying that a population decline based on race is good is in fact a racist statement.

I didn't say population decline. I was specifically talking about the decline in relative power between whites and non-whites. I would like to see the power that comes with being white completely eradicated, as it is power that exists solely through taking it from others, and not by any kind of merit.

What power comes from being white in your opinion? Give an example.

Purgatio wrote:

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Someone internalized the anti-white narrative.

Talk about being self-hating. But even then...wow...I'm speechless.

My dude, I don't know where you got the assumption that I'm white, but it's a pretty ugly assumption.

Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories wrote:

Purgatio wrote:
Talk about being self-hating. But even then...wow...I'm speechless.

My dude, I don't know where you got the assumption that I'm white, but it's a pretty ugly assumption.

It's called a charitable interpretation, because if you're not white, what you just said is pretty hateful and vitriolic. Whereas if you are white, you're just self-hating, which is still better than hating other people.

The problem with hot takes like what we see from Stalliongrad over here is that they take the worldview that might hold merit in a limit region (Even then it's debatable) and make it worldwide. There is no such thing as "Worldwide White Supremacy". That is just the modern American leftist falling into the same problem any individual of politics from America falls into: Imagining America is the world.

North German Realm wrote:The problem with hot takes like what we see from Stalliongrad over here is that they take the worldview that might hold merit in a limit region (Even then it's debatable) and make it worldwide. There is no such thing as "Worldwide White Supremacy". That is just the modern American leftist falling into the same problem any individual of politics from America falls into: Imagining America is the world.

I'd be very curious to hear how China and Japan and Indonesia and Saudi Arabia are currently subjugated under Global White Supremacy

Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories wrote:

Purgatio wrote:
Talk about being self-hating. But even then...wow...I'm speechless.

My dude, I don't know where you got the assumption that I'm white, but it's a pretty ugly assumption.

So instead of just being a self-hating psycho, you're a full-on racist driven by hate. Good to know.

Purgatio wrote:

North German Realm wrote:The problem with hot takes like what we see from Stalliongrad over here is that they take the worldview that might hold merit in a limit region (Even then it's debatable) and make it worldwide. There is no such thing as "Worldwide White Supremacy". That is just the modern American leftist falling into the same problem any individual of politics from America falls into: Imagining America is the world.

I'd be very curious to hear how China and Japan and Indonesia and Saudi Arabia are currently subjugated under Global White Supremacy

I mean, so am I.

North German Realm wrote:

Purgatio wrote:
I'd be very curious to hear how China and Japan and Indonesia and Saudi Arabia are currently subjugated under Global White Supremacy

I mean, so am I.

Worth noting China has a controlling stake in East africa.

Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories wrote:

Purgatio wrote:
Talk about being self-hating. But even then...wow...I'm speechless.

My dude, I don't know where you got the assumption that I'm white, but it's a pretty ugly assumption.

That's gonna be a yikes from me

Ostroeuropa wrote:

Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories wrote:
I didn't say population decline. I was specifically talking about the decline in relative power between whites and non-whites. I would like to see the power that comes with being white completely eradicated, as it is power that exists solely through taking it from others, and not by any kind of merit.

What power comes from being white in your opinion? Give an example.

Ok, so this may be a bit out there, but my background is in Philosophy so I hope you'll bear with me.

Throughout history, but the past several centuries in particular, the way in which theoretical approaches to issues are built has been almost wholly the province of rich white men. Because of that, the tools of the enlightenment are built from the position of an external, impersonal, objective subject, prodding at the object of their analysis. This conception of the self leads to a cognitive bias, an assumption that the one-who-observes is metaphysically immune from observation within the confines of the experiment.

Therefore, it is a damn difficult task to break into those narratives with the experience of having been the object, the observed party, and have those experiences and their implications analysed successfully, since the terms of engagement are built around excluding those factors. This is not a problem unique to the race issue.


A far easier example is the power to not be discriminated against by the institutions of power.

Ostroeuropa wrote:

North German Realm wrote:I mean, so am I.

Worth noting China has a controlling stake in East africa.

Controlling stake? Is East Africa a public company?

Purgatio wrote:

Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories wrote:
I didn't say population decline. I was specifically talking about the decline in relative power between whites and non-whites. I would like to see the power that comes with being white completely eradicated, as it is power that exists solely through taking it from others, and not by any kind of merit.

.....what the fuck?

She's fine with someone who's white having power. It's only having power because of race that is the issue.
Granted the whole "This is not universal" criticism is very valid. But let's not act like it's something it isn't.

Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories wrote:

Ostroeuropa wrote:
What power comes from being white in your opinion? Give an example.

Ok, so this may be a bit out there, but my background is in Philosophy so I hope you'll bear with me.

Throughout history, but the past several centuries in particular, the way in which theoretical approaches to issues are built has been almost wholly the province of rich white men. Because of that, the tools of the enlightenment are built from the position of an external, impersonal, objective subject, prodding at the object of their analysis. This conception of the self leads to a cognitive bias, an assumption that the one-who-observes is metaphysically immune from observation within the confines of the experiment.

Therefore, it is a damn difficult task to break into those narratives with the experience of having been the object, the observed party, and have those experiences and their implications analysed successfully, since the terms of engagement are built around excluding those factors. This is not a problem unique to the race issue.


A far easier example is the power to not be discriminated against by the institutions of power.

How does a Han Chinese man in China or an ethnic Japanese/Yamato in Japan suffer discrimination by the "institutions of power"? You spoke of Worldwide White Supremacy, after all.

I'm gonna concede on some of the arguments I was making in the past half hour or so for now on account of the fact that I'm in an emotionally-idiotic state of mind.

Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories wrote:

Ostroeuropa wrote:
What power comes from being white in your opinion? Give an example.

Ok, so this may be a bit out there, but my background is in Philosophy so I hope you'll bear with me.

Throughout history, but the past several centuries in particular, the way in which theoretical approaches to issues are built has been almost wholly the province of rich white men. Because of that, the tools of the enlightenment are built from the position of an external, impersonal, objective subject, prodding at the object of their analysis. This conception of the self leads to a cognitive bias, an assumption that the one-who-observes is metaphysically immune from observation within the confines of the experiment.

Therefore, it is a damn difficult task to break into those narratives with the experience of having been the object, the observed party, and have those experiences and their implications analysed successfully, since the terms of engagement are built around excluding those factors. This is not a problem unique to the race issue.


A far easier example is the power to not be discriminated against by the institutions of power.

What you described is true of all ruling classes and their view of everyone else, and the ruling class of whites has far more in common with the view and cognition of other races of ruling class than anybody else. By acting like these people represent whites, you are no better than someone acting like a greedy Jewish banker represents Jews and how they think, since because they are a Jew, their thought patterns must be sufficiently similar. But obviously, a greedy japanese banker is totally different and not represented by this person and their view.

White people are discriminated against by institutions of power in a number of ways.

Purgatio wrote:

Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories wrote:
Ok, so this may be a bit out there, but my background is in Philosophy so I hope you'll bear with me.

Throughout history, but the past several centuries in particular, the way in which theoretical approaches to issues are built has been almost wholly the province of rich white men. Because of that, the tools of the enlightenment are built from the position of an external, impersonal, objective subject, prodding at the object of their analysis. This conception of the self leads to a cognitive bias, an assumption that the one-who-observes is metaphysically immune from observation within the confines of the experiment.

Therefore, it is a damn difficult task to break into those narratives with the experience of having been the object, the observed party, and have those experiences and their implications analysed successfully, since the terms of engagement are built around excluding those factors. This is not a problem unique to the race issue.


A far easier example is the power to not be discriminated against by the institutions of power.

How does a Han Chinese man in China or an ethnic Japanese/Yamato in Japan suffer discrimination by the "institutions of power"? You spoke of Worldwide White Supremacy, after all.

Expect her to bring up colonialism, and how it still manages to 'push people down', despite coming to an end, and other out of date events.

Purgatio wrote:

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Worth noting China has a controlling stake in East africa.

Controlling stake? Is East Africa a public company?

Democratic capitalist governments are public companies my friend.

Purgatio wrote:

Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories wrote:
Ok, so this may be a bit out there, but my background is in Philosophy so I hope you'll bear with me.

Throughout history, but the past several centuries in particular, the way in which theoretical approaches to issues are built has been almost wholly the province of rich white men. Because of that, the tools of the enlightenment are built from the position of an external, impersonal, objective subject, prodding at the object of their analysis. This conception of the self leads to a cognitive bias, an assumption that the one-who-observes is metaphysically immune from observation within the confines of the experiment.

Therefore, it is a damn difficult task to break into those narratives with the experience of having been the object, the observed party, and have those experiences and their implications analysed successfully, since the terms of engagement are built around excluding those factors. This is not a problem unique to the race issue.


A far easier example is the power to not be discriminated against by the institutions of power.

How does a Han Chinese man in China or an ethnic Japanese/Yamato in Japan suffer discrimination by the "institutions of power"? You spoke of Worldwide White Supremacy, after all.

World wide while certainly implying a grand scale does not necessarily mean everywhere.
That being said Colorism is a thing.

Ostroeuropa wrote:

Purgatio wrote:
Controlling stake? Is East Africa a public company?

Democratic capitalist governments are public companies my friend.

Lol you sound a little like a Marxist, just saying