Brunei plans to pass law to stone homosexuals

[Andsed]

When did I ever express my sentiments over those events? Anyway, that does not excuse Brunei for its reprehensible actions.

What is reprehensible about it? I mean sure, we wouldn't want to see it happen in our countries. But it isn't. It's happening in their country. And the fact the people there aren't starting revolutions over it clearly indicates that is what they want. So what is wrong about it?

Just because the people there might support it does make it any less disgusting. Stoning innocent people is in no way okay no matter what the people there think about it. It is cruelly killing innocent people for no good reason.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

The UN was founded in 1945. The Chinese civil war started in 1927 and lasted throughout to 49. By 1945 the ROC was clearly loosing and red china had taken over with soviet aid and frankly control. Learn your history, will you.

SMH, you don't even know that there were multiple stages of the civil war but you still think you can lecture me

If you knew what you were talking about, you'd know that the first stage happened between 1927 and 1937, but then was put on hold in order to fight off the Japanese, and then continued from 1945-1949. However, throughout most of that period, the legitimate China was considered the nationalist side, not the communist, and was continually seen as such up until the 1970's.

But sure, they were allowed into the security council just to stick it to the Russians... who also allowed them in. Of course, makes perfect sense.

Also never mind the fact that even before the split in 57 Mao and Stalin were hardly on the best of terms.

[San Lumen]

Seeing any country pass a law like this is truly scary. Its like some want to regress to the Middle Ages.

What's next bringing back drownings and burning at the stake for witchcraft?

Maybe. Saudi Arabia has the death penalty for witchcraft.
That shit never actually went away entirely.

Sadly. I hope LGBT people in Brunei leave in masse and go to countries with less barbaric laws.

[Novus America]

When did I ever express my sentiments over those events? Anyway, that does not excuse Brunei for its reprehensible actions.

What is reprehensible about it? I mean sure, we wouldn't want to see it happen in our countries. But it isn't. It's happening in their country. And the fact the people there aren't starting revolutions over it clearly indicates that is what they want. So what is wrong about it?

Not starting a revolution is not a good measure of what people want. People do not start a revolution over everything they disagree with.

And given the Brunei is an absolute dictatorship under martial law, the people were never asked.

[Novus America]

Rights are enforced by a legal provision not necessarily created by it.
Also the UN Charter requires support for human rights, as does ASEAN.
International law also has human rights provisions.
You do know one law can violate another right?

Brunei should be expelled from ASEAN and the UN for example (not going to happen but would be nice).

And countries against this doe not have to trade with Brunei.

And that wont happen in the name of multiculturalism and the OIC.

Oh I am aware. Obviously the human rights provisions of ASEAN and the UN are never actually enforced by those organizations.
Which is why those organizations are such jokes.

But actually sanctions from some countries could happen though of course China, Russia and the OIC would undermine any sanctions based on human rights. Well any sanctions at all really.

[The New California Republic]

What is reprehensible about it? I mean sure, we wouldn't want to see it happen in our countries. But it isn't. It's happening in their country. And the fact the people there aren't starting revolutions over it clearly indicates that is what they want. So what is wrong about it?

Not starting a revolution is not a good measure of what people want. People do not start a revolution over everything they disagree with.

And given the Brunei is an absolute dictatorship under martial law, the people were never asked.

They also give out substantial "incentives" which also likely dissuades the populace from saying anything:

Brunei's ruling royals possess a huge private fortune and its largely ethnic Malay residents enjoy generous state handouts and pay no taxes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-47769964

[San Lumen]

Plus they have also not said if the law will apply to tourists.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

ITT White Western people pretending to be governors on an online gaming site complain about a small monarchy with no debt and a strong economy deep within East Asia enforcing laws within their own jurisdiction.

Brunei is dire need of "democracy"

Idk why some people have a problem with other people judging another country.

Against Brunei? Why would it be "Multifront"? It's literally a city-state lol (And not really. Given I'm not a head of state, I can only advocate, rather than garner the funding required. Mind you, I would willingly and gladly pay my share for that if someone asked me to pitch in)

Invading a coutry purely out of opposition to Islam would lead to.multi front conflict

^This

Not shocking considering it's been moving towards even more sharia for the past decade.

Prove it

Yet another reason Sharia Law sucks

No it's not.

Because you're not Muslim.

No offense to you personally, but your ideas of what constitutes an Islamic theocracy is much too idealistic to be realistic, since is reality theocracies have always had laws that applied to believers and non-believers alike, so in real life a gay non-believer would be whipped and just as much, likely if not more, than a gay believer.

Actually multiple law code happened before (in the Khaleefatur-Raashidah and the Ottoman Empire for example) so it can happen again.

Of course it is horrific, immoral, inhumane and all other negative adjectives, but unfortunately Sharia law has to be respected, and we cannot just stroll through and implement whatever WE want. Yes, the Sultan is a pigfucking rich bastard, but we don't want Iraq 2.0 do we?

No we don't.

This time we'll CONQUER Brunei, instead of Just taking their oil wells and putting a "moderate" regime in place.

I'll make sure this doesn't happen.

[New Legland]

Yet another reason Sharia Law sucks

No it's not.

Stoning people because they like the same gender? Yeah, that sucks.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

No it's not.

Stoning people because they like the same gender? Yeah, that sucks.

Agreed.

[The New California Republic]

Plus they have also not said if the law will apply to tourists.

Judging by the fact that tourists usually have to abide by the laws of the country they are visiting, I'm assuming it will. But I think that the Brunei authorities would likely opt for deportation instead, because the total media shitstorm that would erupt in the event of a death sentence being imposed on a gay tourist would seriously damage Brunei's international standing.

[San Lumen]

Plus they have also not said if the law will apply to tourists.

Judging by the fact that tourists usually have to abide by the laws of the country they are visiting, I'm assuming it will. But I think that the Brunei authorities would likely opt for deportation instead, because the total media shitstorm that would erupt in the event of a death sentence being imposed on a gay tourist would seriously damage Brunei's international standing.

Brunei is such a small country I can't imagine they have much standing in the international community

[The New California Republic]

Judging by the fact that tourists usually have to abide by the laws of the country they are visiting, I'm assuming it will. But I think that the Brunei authorities would likely opt for deportation instead, because the total media shitstorm that would erupt in the event of a death sentence being imposed on a gay tourist would seriously damage Brunei's international standing.

Brunei is such a small country I can't imagine they have much standing in the international community

Brunei has significant assets outside of the country, so their international standing would likely be important to them.

[Novus America]

ITT White Western people pretending to be governors on an online gaming site complain about a small monarchy with no debt and a strong economy deep within East Asia enforcing laws within their own jurisdiction.

Idk why some people have a problem with other people judging another country.

Invading a coutry purely out of opposition to Islam would lead to.multi front conflict

^This

Not shocking considering it's been moving towards even more sharia for the past decade.

Prove it

Yet another reason Sharia Law sucks

No it's not.

No offense to you personally, but your ideas of what constitutes an Islamic theocracy is much too idealistic to be realistic, since is reality theocracies have always had laws that applied to believers and non-believers alike, so in real life a gay non-believer would be whipped and just as much, likely if not more, than a gay believer.

Actually multiple law code happened before (in the Khaleefatur-Raashidah and the Ottoman Empire for example) so it can happen again.

No we don't.

This time we'll CONQUER Brunei, instead of Just taking their oil wells and putting a "moderate" regime in place.

I'll make sure this doesn't happen.

You would have absolutely no way of stopping it if it did.

[San Lumen]

Brunei is such a small country I can't imagine they have much standing in the international community

Brunei has significant assets outside of the country, so their international standing would likely be important to them.

Didn't stop North Korea

[Ayytaly]

Brunei has significant assets outside of the country, so their international standing would likely be important to them.

Didn't stop North Korea

Unless you're Rodman, why go to Commie Korea in the first place?

[Pasong Tirad]

Lol ASEAN didn't do shit to Burma when it was massacring the Rohingya. No way are they gonna do anything to Brunei.

[Gormwood]

Lol ASEAN didn't do shit to Burma when it was massacring the Rohingya. No way are they gonna do anything to Brunei.

Somebody will say it's because Burma was killing Muslims and Brunei is ruled by Muslims so it'll be different.

[Pasong Tirad]

Lol ASEAN didn't do shit to Burma when it was massacring the Rohingya. No way are they gonna do anything to Brunei.

Somebody will say it's because Burma was killing Muslims and Brunei is ruled by Muslims so it'll be different.

It's not doing shit against the Philippines while it's killing of its indigenous and poor people either. It's not because of race or anything it's just because ASEAN is nearly totally powerless.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

At some point someone is going to start an international gay terrorist group.

[Duhon]

When did I ever express my sentiments over those events? Anyway, that does not excuse Brunei for its reprehensible actions.

What is reprehensible about it? I mean sure, we wouldn't want to see it happen in our countries. But it isn't. It's happening in their country. And the fact the people there aren't starting revolutions over it clearly indicates that is what they want. So what is wrong about it?

If indeed nothing's wrong with stoning gays to death, why not do it where you live?

[Duhon]

Stoning people because they like the same gender? Yeah, that sucks.

Agreed.

Given that you favor lashing them a hundred times, you're "better" omly because those subject to your regimen may yet live.

[The New California Republic]

At some point someone is going to start an international gay terrorist group.

It already happened.

[Duhon]

At some point someone is going to start an international gay terrorist group.

It already happened.

I see nothing about them being gay.

[The New California Republic]

It already happened.

I see nothing about them being gay.

They have been linked to the Gay Liberation Front. One of the former members of The Angry Brigade is now a high ranking member of Stonewall.

https://brighton.rl.talis.com/items/30F ... 1718E.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Mason