Brunei plans to pass law to stone homosexuals

[Farnhamia]

Of course it is horrific, immoral, inhumane and all other negative adjectives, but unfortunately Sharia law has to be respected, and we cannot just stroll through and implement whatever WE want. Yes, the Sultan is a pigfucking rich bastard, but we don't want Iraq 2.0 do we?

It's quite possible to make your point without the argle-blargle invectives. Try it. Your stay here will be the better for it. Oh, and the Rules are readily available for your perusal.

[The Neo-Sparta]

Of course it is horrific, immoral, inhumane and all other negative adjectives, but unfortunately Sharia law has to be respected, and we cannot just stroll through and implement whatever WE want. Yes, the Sultan is a pigfucking rich bastard, but we don't want Iraq 2.0 do we?

Sharia does not need to be respected. Although that doesn't then mean that doing a regime change war is the best option, no theocratic system deserves respect.

[The Neo-Sparta]

Lethal injections and firing squads are definitely more humane ways of execution than stoning is. So it’s arguably more civilized.

Popular opinion: no, none of those ways are either humane, or "civilized".
links to examples coming soon

Honestly, I think the death penalty is justified (not for being gay obviously), but even if you don't, you can't honestly say that lethal injections/firing squads are equal to stoning.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

Of course it is horrific, immoral, inhumane and all other negative adjectives, but unfortunately Sharia law has to be respected, and we cannot just stroll through and implement whatever WE want. Yes, the Sultan is a pigfucking rich bastard, but we don't want Iraq 2.0 do we?

It will not be like Iraq nor does religious law have to be respected.

[New Legland]

Uuuuuggggghhhhhh... sometimes people make me ashamed to be the same species as them. As has been stated ad nauseam, I thought we were past this? Like, several hundred years ago? It's absurd that people still believe in and enforce this shit.

[TheBadMan]

Uuuuuggggghhhhhh... sometimes people make me ashamed to be the same species as them. As has been stated ad nauseam, I thought we were past this? Like, several hundred years ago? It's absurd that people still believe in and enforce this shit.

Sadly, homophobia still is present all around us, even in places that aren't so far away. It's important that the US and other influential countries send a strong message by sanctioning Brunei, and make it understood that this shit is absolutely deplorable.

[New Bremerton]

Of course it is horrific, immoral, inhumane and all other negative adjectives, but unfortunately Sharia law has to be respected, and we cannot just stroll through and implement whatever WE want. Yes, the Sultan is a pigfucking rich bastard, but we don't want Iraq 2.0 do we?

It's quite possible to make your point without the argle-blargle invectives. Try it. Your stay here will be the better for it. Oh, and the Rules are readily available for your perusal.

So just so we're clear, I can't call a hated world leader names even if he's not a player on NationStates? I thought the flaming rule only applies between players. Or is it OK to call the Sultan of Brunei a rich bastard without additional embellishments?

EDIT: Posted here because I didn't want to risk spamming moderation, and Janglanas only received an unofficial warning.

[Senkaku]

and we cannot just stroll through and implement whatever WE want.

...I mean strictly speaking, we can, actually

Yes, the Sultan is a pigfucking rich bastard, but we don't want Iraq 2.0 do we?

It'd be more like Grenada 2.0 than Iraq, tbh. Brunei has less than half a million people and nothing besides a couple helicopters and patrol boats by way of military forces. They're right on the coast, too- I imagine we could have the whole bird sewn up in a couple days if the Seventh Fleet and some Marines sortied.

[Kowani]

Of course it is horrific, immoral, inhumane and all other negative adjectives, but unfortunately Sharia law has to be respected, and we cannot just stroll through and implement whatever WE want. Yes, the Sultan is a pigfucking rich bastard, but we don't want Iraq 2.0 do we?

“Of course it is horrific, immoral, inhumane and all other negative adjectives, but unfortunately Jim’s right to beat his wife has to be respected, and we cannot just stroll through and implement whatever WE want.”

[Ayytaly]

ITT White Western people pretending to be governors on an online gaming site complain about a small monarchy with no debt and a strong economy deep within East Asia enforcing laws within their own jurisdiction.

Brunei is dire need of "democracy"

[North German Realm]

ITT White Western people pretending to be governors on an online gaming site complain about a small monarchy with no debt and a strong economy deep within East Asia enforcing laws within their own jurisdiction.

Brunei is dire need of "democracy"

By virtue of threatening to stone gays, they shouldn't be invaded for "Democracy", they should be invaded and annexed by someone with the capability not to legislate a piece of law that stones gays. The same applies for any other country with such a retarded law (even if I live in one of said countries). The fact that the people of said country (Brunei) also support such a movement just means they shouldn't be allowed to govern themselves. This isn't about morality, justice, or some other bullshit. It's literally about being a useful world police.

[Genivaria]

ITT White Western people pretending to be governors on an online gaming site complain about a small monarchy with no debt and a strong economy deep within East Asia enforcing laws within their own jurisdiction.

Brunei is dire need of "democracy"

And here you are dismissing statements based on racism/cultural bigotry.

[Ayytaly]

ITT White Western people pretending to be governors on an online gaming site complain about a small monarchy with no debt and a strong economy deep within East Asia enforcing laws within their own jurisdiction.

By virtue of threatening to stone gays, they shouldn't be invaded for "Democracy", they should be invaded and annexed by someone with the capability not to legislate a piece of law that stones gays. The same applies for any other country with such a retarded law (even if I live in one of said countries). The fact that the people of said country (Brunei) also support such a movement just means they shouldn't be allowed to govern themselves. This isn't about morality, justice, or some other bullshit. It's literally about being a useful world police.

Ah, you abide by the tenets of Germanic supremacy, I see. How did that work out for Prussia again?

[North German Realm]

By virtue of threatening to stone gays, they shouldn't be invaded for "Democracy", they should be invaded and annexed by someone with the capability not to legislate a piece of law that stones gays. The same applies for any other country with such a retarded law (even if I live in one of said countries). The fact that the people of said country (Brunei) also support such a movement just means they shouldn't be allowed to govern themselves. This isn't about morality, justice, or some other bullshit. It's literally about being a useful world police.

Ah, you abide by the tenets of Germanic supremacy, I see. How did that work out for Prussia again?

Well, the last iteration of a State including Prussia got invaded and temporarily put under authority of multiple powers by an alliance of nations with superior -and more moral- laws when it started doing shit that justify foreign military intervention. Which is pretty much what I'm advocating here. Invasion, occupation, and "fixing" of countries with retarded laws like stoning gays by nations that do not have said retarded laws.

[Ayytaly]

Ah, you abide by the tenets of Germanic supremacy, I see. How did that work out for Prussia again?

Well, the last iteration of a State including Prussia got invaded and temporarily put under authority of multiple powers by an alliance of nations with superior -and more moral- laws when it started doing shit that justify foreign military intervention. Which is pretty much what I'm advocating here. Invasion, occupation, and "fixing" of countries with retarded laws like stoning gays by nations that do not have said retarded laws.

You're talking about the Teuton Order colonizing Prussia at the expense of Baltics, right?

[Loben]

Ah, you abide by the tenets of Germanic supremacy, I see. How did that work out for Prussia again?

Well, the last iteration of a State including Prussia got invaded and temporarily put under authority of multiple powers by an alliance of nations with superior -and more moral- laws when it started doing shit that justify foreign military intervention. Which is pretty much what I'm advocating here. Invasion, occupation, and "fixing" of countries with retarded laws like stoning gays by nations that do not have said retarded laws.

do you have money to fund this multifront war? where will you find the men? weapons? ammunition? support?

[North German Realm]

Well, the last iteration of a State including Prussia got invaded and temporarily put under authority of multiple powers by an alliance of nations with superior -and more moral- laws when it started doing shit that justify foreign military intervention. Which is pretty much what I'm advocating here. Invasion, occupation, and "fixing" of countries with retarded laws like stoning gays by nations that do not have said retarded laws.

do you have money to fund this multifront war? where will you find the men? weapons? ammunition? support?

Against Brunei? Why would it be "Multifront"? It's literally a city-state lol (And not really. Given I'm not a head of state, I can only advocate, rather than garner the funding required. Mind you, I would willingly and gladly pay my share for that if someone asked me to pitch in)

[The Man Who Shot Jiminy Cricket]

do you have money to fund this multifront war? where will you find the men? weapons? ammunition? support?

Against Brunei? Why would it be "Multifront"? It's literally a city-state lol (And not really. Given I'm not a head of state, I can only advocate, rather than garner the funding required. Mind you, I would willingly and gladly pay my share for that if someone asked me to pitch in)

Invading a coutry purely out of opposition to Islam would lead to.multi front conflict

[Mandicoria]

Not shocking considering it's been moving towards even more sharia bullshit for the past decade.

[North German Realm]

Against Brunei? Why would it be "Multifront"? It's literally a city-state lol (And not really. Given I'm not a head of state, I can only advocate, rather than garner the funding required. Mind you, I would willingly and gladly pay my share for that if someone asked me to pitch in)

Invading a coutry purely out of opposition to Islam would lead to.multi front conflict

Well, a Multifront war it is I guess.

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Poe's Law comes to mind as I wonder whether the people on NSG who suggest a military invasion of every country that does a fucked up thing is serious or not.

[The Lone Alliance]

Yet another reason Sharia Law sucks and why we should be glad it doesn't belong in the west.

Just a pity we can't ban it from the planet but we can't even ban other shitty ideas either.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Invading a coutry purely out of opposition to Islam would lead to.multi front conflict

Well, a Multifront war it is I guess.

Unlike ABC, a multifront war isn't as easy as 123.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Why?

Because you're not Muslim.

No offense to you personally, but your ideas of what constitutes an Islamic theocracy is much too idealistic to be realistic, since is reality theocracies have always had laws that applied to believers and non-believers alike, so in real life a gay non-believer would be whipped and just as much, likely if not more, than a gay believer.

[Minoa]

Yet another reason Sharia Law sucks and why we should be glad it doesn't belong in the west.

Just a pity we can't ban it from the planet but we can't even ban other shitty ideas either.

Any kind of religious law doesn't belong in day-to-day government.

Poe's Law comes to mind as I wonder whether the people on NSG who suggest a military invasion of every country that does a fucked up thing is serious or not.

It seems that for some, invasion is the go-to answer for any problem, not matter how small.