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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:20 am

New Sukberia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:What are you talking about?

And to add on to what Astoriya said, there's some debate over whether homosexual sex is punishable by stoning. To me, it should be 100 lashes, not stoning.

Because that's the same reason that led to Hitler to invade half of Europe and in act the holocaust.


100 lashes for consensual sex between adults? Wow.

Yes. It falls under illegal sexual intercourse, so this punishment would be enacted on Muslim fornicators, adulterers, those who commit bestiality, rape.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:20 am

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Have you read his manifesto? This guy was like an everyday djihadist, only a nazi.

What a f*cking incel

Hs was nowhere near a jihadist.
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Postby New Sukberia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:21 am

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New Sukberia wrote:
100 lashes for consensual sex between adults? Wow.

Yes. It falls under illegal sexual intercourse, so this punishment would be enacted on Muslim fornicators, adulterers, those who commit bestiality, rape.

What an animalistic practise. Call back when your mindset isn't on the Middle Ages anymore.

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Postby Neuewland » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:21 am

Abhorrent, just like all other forms of murder
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:22 am

New Sukberia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Yes. It falls under illegal sexual intercourse, so this punishment would be enacted on Muslim fornicators, adulterers, those who commit bestiality, rape.

What an animalistic practise.

Nice opinion
New Sukberia wrote:Call back when your mindset isn't on the Middle Ages anymore.

It isn't.
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Postby New Sukberia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:24 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
New Sukberia wrote:
Have you read his manifesto? This guy was like an everyday djihadist, only a nazi.

What a f*cking incel

Hs was nowhere near a jihadist.

Ideology wise? He was very fucking near it. Djihadits and nazis share the same hatred for democracy, western culture, gays\women\jews, etc.

Oh and they are both incel-friendly

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Postby New Sukberia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:25 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
New Sukberia wrote:What an animalistic practise.

Nice opinion
New Sukberia wrote:Call back when your mindset isn't on the Middle Ages anymore.

It isn't.

Yeah, lashes for consensual sex betwenn adults is very 21 century


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Also, opinion? An opinion based on Western Law.
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Postby Commonwealth of Hank the Cat » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:27 am

New Sukberia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Hs was nowhere near a jihadist.

Ideology wise? He was very fucking near it. Djihadits and nazis share the same hatred for democracy, western culture, gays\women\jews, etc.

Oh and they are both incel-friendly


That guy was insane. Insanity such as his has no ideology but evil.

Killing women because they won't sleep with you counts as that, I would think.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:28 am

New Sukberia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Hs was nowhere near a jihadist.

Ideology wise? He was very f*cking near it. Djihadits and nazis share the same hatred for democracy, western culture, gays\women\jews, etc.

Oh and they are both incel-friendly

I can see you don't know what jihaad is. Come to the IDT, I have some stuff to show you.
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Postby New Sukberia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:29 am

Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
New Sukberia wrote:Ideology wise? He was very fucking near it. Djihadits and nazis share the same hatred for democracy, western culture, gays\women\jews, etc.

Oh and they are both incel-friendly


That guy was insane. Insanity such as his has no ideology but evil.

Killing women because they won't sleep with you counts as that, I would think.

"god damn Chad Thundercock getting all the Stacies. Hopefully, This rampage on unarmed civilians Will make her notice me!"

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Postby New Sukberia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:29 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
New Sukberia wrote:Ideology wise? He was very f*cking near it. Djihadits and nazis share the same hatred for democracy, western culture, gays\women\jews, etc.

Oh and they are both incel-friendly

I can see you don't know what jihaad is. Come to the IDT, I have some stuff to show you.

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Postby Greater Loegria » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:30 am

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Wow one storie about an infection of a pédophile is enough to confirm your argument.

Meanwhile, dozens of terrorist attacks in Europe in only 2 years isn't enough to warrant hâte for an ideoogy That preaches death to apostates.

What are you talking about?

And to add on to what Astoriya said, there's some debate over whether homosexual sex is punishable by stoning. To me, it should be 100 lashes, not stoning.
Greater Loegria wrote:Why is it a terrible view?

Because that's the same reason that led to Hitler to invade half of Europe and in act the holocaust.

I don't care about that. That sort of thing happens all the time. As it so happens I for one do not think that it was worth of British intervention and the subsequent loss of our Empire. Anyways, Hitler did to some extent come to pose a threat to Britain's interests which is why we intervened. Brunei is just some splodge on a map far away. I do not give two bloody barn owl hoots what they are up to. Are they still willing to do business with us? Yes? Move along, turn a blind eye.
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Postby Commonwealth of Hank the Cat » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:31 am

New Sukberia wrote:
Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
That guy was insane. Insanity such as his has no ideology but evil.

Killing women because they won't sleep with you counts as that, I would think.

"god damn Chad Thundercock getting all the Stacies. Hopefully, This rampage on unarmed civilians Will make her notice me!"


"I mean, I was so nice to that fucking bitch! Can't that dopey whore understand how nice I am?! She needs to die!"

Utter insanity.

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Postby Duhon » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:31 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
New Sukberia wrote:
Wow one storie about an infection of a pédophile is enough to confirm your argument.

Meanwhile, dozens of terrorist attacks in Europe in only 2 years isn't enough to warrant hâte for an ideoogy That preaches death to apostates.

What are you talking about?

And to add on to what Astoriya said, there's some debate over whether homosexual sex is punishable by stoning. To me, it should be 100 lashes, not stoning.


Nononononononononononono. No. Just fuck that shit. Fuck that shit.

Is it your idea of mercy? Is this "you can be gay, just don't do gay" stretched to near its logical limit? Whatever the fuck it is, you still see gayness as a problem, one that merits punishment. Just no. No.

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Postby New Sukberia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:32 am

Greater Loegria wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:What are you talking about?

And to add on to what Astoriya said, there's some debate over whether homosexual sex is punishable by stoning. To me, it should be 100 lashes, not stoning.

Because that's the same reason that led to Hitler to invade half of Europe and in act the holocaust.

I don't care about that. That sort of thing happens all the time. As it so happens I for one do not think that it was worth of British intervention and the subsequent loss of our Empire. Anyways, Hitler did to some extent come to pose a threat to Britain's interests which is why we intervened. Brunei is just some splodge on a map far away. I do not give two bloody barn owl hoots what they are up to. Are they still willing to do business with us? Yes? Move along, turn a blind eye.

And This, ladies and gentlemen, is why we should have more soldiers in politics and less politicians.

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Postby Greater Loegria » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:51 am

New Sukberia wrote:
Greater Loegria wrote:I don't care about that. That sort of thing happens all the time. As it so happens I for one do not think that it was worth of British intervention and the subsequent loss of our Empire. Anyways, Hitler did to some extent come to pose a threat to Britain's interests which is why we intervened. Brunei is just some splodge on a map far away. I do not give two bloody barn owl hoots what they are up to. Are they still willing to do business with us? Yes? Move along, turn a blind eye.

And This, ladies and gentlemen, is why we should have more soldiers in politics and less politicians.

Eh?
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Postby The Man Who Shot Jiminy Cricket » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:56 am

The New California Republic wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:And to add on to what Astoriya said, there's some debate over whether homosexual sex is punishable by stoning. To me, it should be 100 lashes, not stoning.

No. Fuck that shit.

All fornication gets one-hundred lashes in Islam, he is just saying he doesn't think sodomy should get a harsher penalty.
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Postby Nunavutialand » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:57 am

Fine, ban homosexuality, it might be backwards to do it but at least you're not executing them.
However, this is on a whole other level. Stoning is disgusting and abhorrent.
Oh Brunei, how you have fallen in my eyes.

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Postby Liberatia Populus » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:59 am

This is a Horrible day for Freedom.

I stand with the LGBT Community in Brunei, who just want to live in peace, instead of being persecuted by a backwards, authoritarian, absolutist regime.

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:59 am

The Man Who Shot Jiminy Cricket wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:No. Fuck that shit.

All fornication gets one-hundred lashes in Islam, he is just saying he doesn't think sodomy should get a harsher penalty.

Fuck that too.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:59 am

Nunavutialand wrote:Fine, ban homosexuality, it might be backwards to do it but at least you're not executing them.
However, this is on a whole other level. Stoning is disgusting and abhorrent.
Oh Brunei, how you have fallen in my eyes.

Imo it's still a pretty cool country. This law is putting it down tho.
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Postby Astoriya » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:59 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:And to add on to what Astoriya said...

I'd prefer it if you called me Astoria, thanks.
Andsed wrote:Then yeah I can see why Sharia law is partially to blame here. Also how is that one news story about one scumbag relevant here? Stories like it also have some responsibility for this but I don't really see why you mentioned it.

Notice how I said 'bombarded' - this story is just a small example.
New Sukberia wrote:It's the good Old: " i don't hate gays but they are paedophiles" bullshit that they like to use.

^ This, pretty much.

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Postby The Man Who Shot Jiminy Cricket » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:00 am

Nunavutialand wrote:Fine, ban homosexuality, it might be backwards to do it but at least you're not executing them.
However, this is on a whole other level. Stoning is disgusting and abhorrent.
Oh Brunei, how you have fallen in my eyes.

Stoning has some precedent but I agree it is excessive to be used as a rule here. If someone should be put to death, beheading is generally preferable but I think death is too much here
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:02 am

Astoriya wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:And to add on to what Astoriya said...

I'd prefer it if you called me Astoria, thanks.

My apologies, will edit.
Astoriya wrote:^ This, pretty much.

Most homosexuals aren't pedophiles tho. Or am I misunderstanding your point?
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:03 am

The Man Who Shot Jiminy Cricket wrote:
Nunavutialand wrote:Fine, ban homosexuality, it might be backwards to do it but at least you're not executing them.
However, this is on a whole other level. Stoning is disgusting and abhorrent.
Oh Brunei, how you have fallen in my eyes.

Stoning has some precedent but I agree it is excessive to be used as a rule here. If someone should be put to death, beheading is generally preferable but I think death is too much here

Where does stoning have precedent?
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