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Postby Kaystein » Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:57 pm

What's the current list of organizations, campaigns, people, etc. opposing this law going into effect? Can somebody provide links so I can find out more and how I can support the effort?

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:02 pm

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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Dude you used sketchy aHaadith. Just admit you're error and learn from it.

"If some scientists find out that their experiment was flawed, then they're stupid". That's pretty much what you're saying right now. Verifying the authenticity of something doesn't prove a whole subject faulty.

Not my fault the most important texts of your faith contain unreliable information...

I still don't understand what you're point is here by saying that.
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Postby New Sukberia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:12 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Third Asopia wrote:Guys, do note that Brunei is a Muslim country. In the Koran, there are probably laws against homosexuality and adultery. While the Bible doesn't actually condemn homo(probably), it does condemn adultery. So, we need to respect each other's laws and regulations, especially the religious ones as breaking it may be severe. Brunei wants to do so because by not doing so, they may not be respecting Islam although they are a Muslim country.

This is exactly why there should be no Muslim Countries nor Christian Countries nor Hindu Countries nor Atheist Countries. Only Secular Countries.

I'm an atheist, but i agree That countries should ne secular.

So PREACH THIS

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Postby New Sukberia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:15 am

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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:They way you wanna use it, yes.

How? Giving people rights and the ability to choose their government is a good thing. I don’t think you know what totalitarian means. It’s at least a bit ironic you of all people are accusing me of being totalitarian.
Vojelneit wrote:No, democracy isn't totalitarian, but trying to force democracy on countries is a totalitarian practice, especially since such interventionism could easily be used as the largely USA-oriented UN to overthrow any regimes that poses a problem to their interests as has been seen in Iraq.

It’s even more ironic a third positionist says this is totalitarian. It would make sense, commies and fascists don’t like Western freedom.


It's almost ad if their entire ideology revolves around being and hypocrite. Or almost as if anyone who put it into practise ends up with a broken country.


Humm....

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Postby American Pere Housh » Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:17 am

Greater Westralia wrote:This is horrifying. Criminalising homosexuality is bad enough, but public stoning?

I hope our government exerts some pressure on Brunei. Perhaps sanctions if necessary.

You can blaim Sharia Law for this
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Postby TheBadMan » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:07 am

American Pere Housh wrote:
Greater Westralia wrote:This is horrifying. Criminalising homosexuality is bad enough, but public stoning?

I hope our government exerts some pressure on Brunei. Perhaps sanctions if necessary.

You can blaim Sharia Law for this

Sharia Law needs to be changed.

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Postby Greater Loegria » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:25 am

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American Pere Housh wrote:You can blaim Sharia Law for this

Sharia Law needs to be changed.

Its their law, they can do as they will. But it should not be exported here in the west.
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Postby New Sukberia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:41 am

Greater Loegria wrote:
TheBadMan wrote:Sharia Law needs to be changed.

Its their law, they can do as they will. But it should not be exported here in the west.

"Its their law, they can do as they will", yeah Neville Chamberlain tried That. I wonder how it worked....

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Postby Greater Loegria » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:44 am

New Sukberia wrote:
Greater Loegria wrote:Its their law, they can do as they will. But it should not be exported here in the west.

"Its their law, they can do as they will", yeah Neville Chamberlain tried That. I wonder how it worked....

Eh. That kind of thing has always happened in Europe, only this time it was mechanised. Britain did not enter the war to defend Jews it entered to prevent German expansion.
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Postby New Sukberia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:05 am

Greater Loegria wrote:
New Sukberia wrote:"Its their law, they can do as they will", yeah Neville Chamberlain tried That. I wonder how it worked....

Eh. That kind of thing has always happened in Europe, only this time it was mechanised. Britain did not enter the war to defend Jews it entered to prevent German expansion.

Because countries like Saufi Arabia aren't expanding their filthy ideology everywhere.

Today it's the gays. Tomorrow it's on our streets.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:54 am

American Pere Housh wrote:
Greater Westralia wrote:This is horrifying. Criminalising homosexuality is bad enough, but public stoning?

I hope our government exerts some pressure on Brunei. Perhaps sanctions if necessary.

You can blaim Sharia Law for this

No you can't.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:55 am

Greater Loegria wrote:
TheBadMan wrote:Sharia Law needs to be changed.

Its their law, they can do as they will.

This is a terrible view to have.
Greater Loegria wrote:But it should not be exported here in the west.

It already is.
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Postby Andsed » Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:59 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:You can blaim Sharia Law for this

No you can't.

Two honest questions

1. Dose Sharia state that being gay is wrong or a bad thing?

2. And does it condone stoning people as punishment?
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Postby Astoriya » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:45 am

New Sukberia wrote:It's almost ad if their entire ideology revolves around being and hypocrite. Or almost as if anyone who put it into practise ends up with a broken country.

Humm....

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Andsed wrote:Two honest questions

1. Does Sharia state that being gay is wrong or a bad thing?

2. And does it condone stoning people as punishment?

I'll just butt in & answer this one...

1. IIRC it states that being gay is a bad thing (aka not recommended)

2. As far as I know, it does not condone punishing people just for being gay - it only punishes people if they had gay sex, or sodomy

(footnote: I think that when you're constantly bombarded with news stories like this, that may be why there's such fierce opposition to gays)
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Postby New Sukberia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:06 am

Oman? Your point?

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Astoriya wrote:
New Sukberia wrote:It's almost ad if their entire ideology revolves around being and hypocrite. Or almost as if anyone who put it into practise ends up with a broken country.

Humm....

Oman called, they asked for you to have a look


Andsed wrote:Two honest questions

1. Does Sharia state that being gay is wrong or a bad thing?

2. And does it condone stoning people as punishment?

I'll just butt in & answer this one...

1. IIRC it states that being gay is a bad thing (aka not recommended)

2. As far as I know, it does not condone punishing people just for being gay - it only punishes people if they had gay sex, or sodomy

(footnote: I think that when you're constantly bombarded with news stories like this, that may be why there's such fierce opposition to gays)


Wow one storie about an infection of a pédophile is enough to confirm your argument.

Meanwhile, dozens of terrorist attacks in Europe in only 2 years isn't enough to warrant hâte for an ideoogy That preaches death to apostates.

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Postby Greater Loegria » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:09 am

New Sukberia wrote:
Greater Loegria wrote:Eh. That kind of thing has always happened in Europe, only this time it was mechanised. Britain did not enter the war to defend Jews it entered to prevent German expansion.

Because countries like Saufi Arabia aren't expanding their filthy ideology everywhere.

Today it's the gays. Tomorrow it's on our streets.

Well as long as its not my streets they can knock themselves out with it, its their country.
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Greater Loegria wrote:Its their law, they can do as they will.

This is a terrible view to have.
Greater Loegria wrote:But it should not be exported here in the west.

It already is.

Why is it a terrible view? And yes, I know its sort of here, and it ought to be stopped.
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Postby Andsed » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:09 am

Astoriya wrote:
New Sukberia wrote:It's almost ad if their entire ideology revolves around being and hypocrite. Or almost as if anyone who put it into practise ends up with a broken country.

Humm....

Oman called, they asked for you to have a look


Andsed wrote:Two honest questions

1. Does Sharia state that being gay is wrong or a bad thing?

2. And does it condone stoning people as punishment?

I'll just butt in & answer this one...

1. IIRC it states that being gay is a bad thing (aka not recommended)

2. As far as I know, it does not condone punishing people just for being gay - it only punishes people if they had gay sex, or sodomy

(footnote: I think that when you're constantly bombarded with news stories like this, that may be why there's such fierce opposition to gays)

Then yeah I can see why Sharia law is partially to blame here. Also how is that one news story about one scumbag relevant here? Stories like it also have some responsibility for this but I don't really see why you mentioned it.
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Postby New Sukberia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:13 am

Andsed wrote:
Astoriya wrote:Oman called, they asked for you to have a look



I'll just butt in & answer this one...

1. IIRC it states that being gay is a bad thing (aka not recommended)

2. As far as I know, it does not condone punishing people just for being gay - it only punishes people if they had gay sex, or sodomy

(footnote: I think that when you're constantly bombarded with news stories like this, that may be why there's such fierce opposition to gays)

Then yeah I can see why Sharia law is partially to blame here. Also how is that one news story about one scumbag relevant here? Stories like it also have some responsibility for this but I don't really see why you mentioned it.


It's the good Old: " i don't hate gays but they are pedophiles" bullshit That they like to use.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:13 am

New Sukberia wrote:
Astoriya wrote:Oman called, they asked for you to have a look



I'll just butt in & answer this one...

1. IIRC it states that being gay is a bad thing (aka not recommended)

2. As far as I know, it does not condone punishing people just for being gay - it only punishes people if they had gay sex, or sodomy

(footnote: I think that when you're constantly bombarded with news stories like this, that may be why there's such fierce opposition to gays)


Wow one storie about an infection of a pédophile is enough to confirm your argument.

Meanwhile, dozens of terrorist attacks in Europe in only 2 years isn't enough to warrant hâte for an ideoogy That preaches death to apostates.

What are you talking about?

And to add on to what Astoria said, there's some debate over whether homosexual sex is punishable by stoning. To me, it should be 100 lashes, not stoning.
Greater Loegria wrote:Why is it a terrible view?

Because that's the same reason that led to Hitler to invade half of Europe and in act the holocaust.
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Postby New Sukberia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:14 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
New Sukberia wrote:
Wow one storie about an infection of a pédophile is enough to confirm your argument.

Meanwhile, dozens of terrorist attacks in Europe in only 2 years isn't enough to warrant hâte for an ideoogy That preaches death to apostates.

What are you talking about?

And to add on to what Astoriya said, there's some debate over whether homosexual sex is punishable by stoning. To me, it should be 100 lashes, not stoning.
Greater Loegria wrote:Why is it a terrible view?

Because that's the same reason that led to Hitler to invade half of Europe and in act the holocaust.


100 lashes for consensual sex between adults? Wow.

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Postby Andsed » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:16 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
New Sukberia wrote:
Wow one storie about an infection of a pédophile is enough to confirm your argument.

Meanwhile, dozens of terrorist attacks in Europe in only 2 years isn't enough to warrant hâte for an ideoogy That preaches death to apostates.

What are you talking about?

And to add on to what Astoriya said, there's some debate over whether homosexual sex is punishable by stoning. To me, it should be 100 lashes, not stoning.
Greater Loegria wrote:Why is it a terrible view?

Because that's the same reason that led to Hitler to invade half of Europe and in act the holocaust.

100 lashes is still a awful thing to do for harmless consensual sex my god. If Sharia promotes that kind of ideas then yeah I would say some blame is on Sharia law for this.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:17 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:And to add on to what Astoriya said, there's some debate over whether homosexual sex is punishable by stoning. To me, it should be 100 lashes, not stoning.

No. Fuck that shit.
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Postby Gormwood » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:18 am

New Sukberia wrote:
Astoriya wrote:Oman called, they asked for you to have a look



I'll just butt in & answer this one...

1. IIRC it states that being gay is a bad thing (aka not recommended)

2. As far as I know, it does not condone punishing people just for being gay - it only punishes people if they had gay sex, or sodomy

(footnote: I think that when you're constantly bombarded with news stories like this, that may be why there's such fierce opposition to gays)


Wow one storie about an infection of a pédophile is enough to confirm your argument.

Meanwhile, dozens of terrorist attacks in Europe in only 2 years isn't enough to warrant hâte for an ideoogy That preaches death to apostates.

If only hate of an ideology didn't give people ideas like Christchurch.
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Postby New Sukberia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:19 am

Gormwood wrote:
New Sukberia wrote:
Wow one storie about an infection of a pédophile is enough to confirm your argument.

Meanwhile, dozens of terrorist attacks in Europe in only 2 years isn't enough to warrant hâte for an ideoogy That preaches death to apostates.

If only hate of an ideology didn't give people ideas like Christchurch.


Have you read his manifesto? This guy was like an everyday djihadist, only a nazi.

What a fucking incel

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