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by Kaystein » Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:57 pm

by El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:02 pm
Vojelneit wrote:El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Dude you used sketchy aHaadith. Just admit you're error and learn from it.
"If some scientists find out that their experiment was flawed, then they're stupid". That's pretty much what you're saying right now. Verifying the authenticity of something doesn't prove a whole subject faulty.
Not my fault the most important texts of your faith contain unreliable information...
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

by New Sukberia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:12 am
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Third Asopia wrote:Guys, do note that Brunei is a Muslim country. In the Koran, there are probably laws against homosexuality and adultery. While the Bible doesn't actually condemn homo(probably), it does condemn adultery. So, we need to respect each other's laws and regulations, especially the religious ones as breaking it may be severe. Brunei wants to do so because by not doing so, they may not be respecting Islam although they are a Muslim country.
This is exactly why there should be no Muslim Countries nor Christian Countries nor Hindu Countries nor Atheist Countries. Only Secular Countries.

by New Sukberia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:15 am
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:El-Amin Caliphate wrote:They way you wanna use it, yes.
How? Giving people rights and the ability to choose their government is a good thing. I don’t think you know what totalitarian means. It’s at least a bit ironic you of all people are accusing me of being totalitarian.Vojelneit wrote:No, democracy isn't totalitarian, but trying to force democracy on countries is a totalitarian practice, especially since such interventionism could easily be used as the largely USA-oriented UN to overthrow any regimes that poses a problem to their interests as has been seen in Iraq.
It’s even more ironic a third positionist says this is totalitarian. It would make sense, commies and fascists don’t like Western freedom.

by American Pere Housh » Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:17 am
Greater Westralia wrote:This is horrifying. Criminalising homosexuality is bad enough, but public stoning?
I hope our government exerts some pressure on Brunei. Perhaps sanctions if necessary.

by Greater Loegria » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:25 am

by New Sukberia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:41 am

by Greater Loegria » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:44 am

by New Sukberia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:05 am
Greater Loegria wrote:New Sukberia wrote:"Its their law, they can do as they will", yeah Neville Chamberlain tried That. I wonder how it worked....
Eh. That kind of thing has always happened in Europe, only this time it was mechanised. Britain did not enter the war to defend Jews it entered to prevent German expansion.

by El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:54 am
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

by El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:55 am
Greater Loegria wrote:But it should not be exported here in the west.
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

by Astoriya » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:45 am
New Sukberia wrote:It's almost ad if their entire ideology revolves around being and hypocrite. Or almost as if anyone who put it into practise ends up with a broken country.
Humm....
Andsed wrote:Two honest questions
1. Does Sharia state that being gay is wrong or a bad thing?
2. And does it condone stoning people as punishment?

by New Sukberia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:09 am
Astoriya wrote:New Sukberia wrote:It's almost ad if their entire ideology revolves around being and hypocrite. Or almost as if anyone who put it into practise ends up with a broken country.
Humm....
Oman called, they asked for you to have a lookAndsed wrote:Two honest questions
1. Does Sharia state that being gay is wrong or a bad thing?
2. And does it condone stoning people as punishment?
I'll just butt in & answer this one...
1. IIRC it states that being gay is a bad thing (aka not recommended)
2. As far as I know, it does not condone punishing people just for being gay - it only punishes people if they had gay sex, or sodomy
(footnote: I think that when you're constantly bombarded with news stories like this, that may be why there's such fierce opposition to gays)

by Greater Loegria » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:09 am
New Sukberia wrote:Greater Loegria wrote:Eh. That kind of thing has always happened in Europe, only this time it was mechanised. Britain did not enter the war to defend Jews it entered to prevent German expansion.
Because countries like Saufi Arabia aren't expanding their filthy ideology everywhere.
Today it's the gays. Tomorrow it's on our streets.

by Andsed » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:09 am
Astoriya wrote:New Sukberia wrote:It's almost ad if their entire ideology revolves around being and hypocrite. Or almost as if anyone who put it into practise ends up with a broken country.
Humm....
Oman called, they asked for you to have a lookAndsed wrote:Two honest questions
1. Does Sharia state that being gay is wrong or a bad thing?
2. And does it condone stoning people as punishment?
I'll just butt in & answer this one...
1. IIRC it states that being gay is a bad thing (aka not recommended)
2. As far as I know, it does not condone punishing people just for being gay - it only punishes people if they had gay sex, or sodomy
(footnote: I think that when you're constantly bombarded with news stories like this, that may be why there's such fierce opposition to gays)

by New Sukberia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:13 am
Andsed wrote:Astoriya wrote:Oman called, they asked for you to have a look
I'll just butt in & answer this one...
1. IIRC it states that being gay is a bad thing (aka not recommended)
2. As far as I know, it does not condone punishing people just for being gay - it only punishes people if they had gay sex, or sodomy
(footnote: I think that when you're constantly bombarded with news stories like this, that may be why there's such fierce opposition to gays)
Then yeah I can see why Sharia law is partially to blame here. Also how is that one news story about one scumbag relevant here? Stories like it also have some responsibility for this but I don't really see why you mentioned it.

by El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:13 am
New Sukberia wrote:Astoriya wrote:Oman called, they asked for you to have a look
I'll just butt in & answer this one...
1. IIRC it states that being gay is a bad thing (aka not recommended)
2. As far as I know, it does not condone punishing people just for being gay - it only punishes people if they had gay sex, or sodomy
(footnote: I think that when you're constantly bombarded with news stories like this, that may be why there's such fierce opposition to gays)
Wow one storie about an infection of a pédophile is enough to confirm your argument.
Meanwhile, dozens of terrorist attacks in Europe in only 2 years isn't enough to warrant hâte for an ideoogy That preaches death to apostates.
Greater Loegria wrote:Why is it a terrible view?
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

by New Sukberia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:14 am
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:New Sukberia wrote:
Wow one storie about an infection of a pédophile is enough to confirm your argument.
Meanwhile, dozens of terrorist attacks in Europe in only 2 years isn't enough to warrant hâte for an ideoogy That preaches death to apostates.
What are you talking about?
And to add on to what Astoriya said, there's some debate over whether homosexual sex is punishable by stoning. To me, it should be 100 lashes, not stoning.Greater Loegria wrote:Why is it a terrible view?
Because that's the same reason that led to Hitler to invade half of Europe and in act the holocaust.

by Andsed » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:16 am
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:New Sukberia wrote:
Wow one storie about an infection of a pédophile is enough to confirm your argument.
Meanwhile, dozens of terrorist attacks in Europe in only 2 years isn't enough to warrant hâte for an ideoogy That preaches death to apostates.
What are you talking about?
And to add on to what Astoriya said, there's some debate over whether homosexual sex is punishable by stoning. To me, it should be 100 lashes, not stoning.Greater Loegria wrote:Why is it a terrible view?
Because that's the same reason that led to Hitler to invade half of Europe and in act the holocaust.

by The New California Republic » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:17 am
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:And to add on to what Astoriya said, there's some debate over whether homosexual sex is punishable by stoning. To me, it should be 100 lashes, not stoning.

by Gormwood » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:18 am
New Sukberia wrote:Astoriya wrote:Oman called, they asked for you to have a look
I'll just butt in & answer this one...
1. IIRC it states that being gay is a bad thing (aka not recommended)
2. As far as I know, it does not condone punishing people just for being gay - it only punishes people if they had gay sex, or sodomy
(footnote: I think that when you're constantly bombarded with news stories like this, that may be why there's such fierce opposition to gays)
Wow one storie about an infection of a pédophile is enough to confirm your argument.
Meanwhile, dozens of terrorist attacks in Europe in only 2 years isn't enough to warrant hâte for an ideoogy That preaches death to apostates.

by New Sukberia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:19 am
Gormwood wrote:New Sukberia wrote:
Wow one storie about an infection of a pédophile is enough to confirm your argument.
Meanwhile, dozens of terrorist attacks in Europe in only 2 years isn't enough to warrant hâte for an ideoogy That preaches death to apostates.
If only hate of an ideology didn't give people ideas like Christchurch.
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