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Khataiy wrote:

Andsed wrote:Hey you do not get the scream about making it a choice but then complain when we give you a choice. Either you be smart and vaccinate your kids or we don't let you go to schools since you would endanger other kids.

That is not a fair choice and it is very Authoritarian, I don't think homosexual children should go to school either because of STDs how does that sound to you.

San Lumen wrote:

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
The Spanish Flu caused more deaths then the entire body count of WWI, and the Black Death killed a third of Europes population. Vaccines and antibiotics are the basis of modern medicine and any objection to them is rooted in ignorance and misinformed fear mongering.

and one day there will be another pandemic and supervises that is resistant to antibiotics and vaccines. Many biologists say its only a matter of time before it happens

Andsed wrote:

Khataiy wrote:That is not a fair choice and it is very Authoritarian, I don't think homosexual children should go to school either because of STDs how does that sound to you.

Like a very bad analogy. STD's can only spread through sexual contact unlike diseases which can spread through many other ways. And it is a very fair choice. Either be a good member of society and vaccinate your child so you don''t endanger others or don''t be allowed to go places and endanger people.

Andsed wrote:

Khataiy wrote:That is not a fair choice and it is very Authoritarian, I don't think homosexual children should go to school either because of STDs how does that sound to you.

Like a very bad analogy. STD's can only spread through sexual contact unlike diseases which can spread through many other ways. And it is a very fair choice. Either be a good member of society and vaccinate your child so you don''t endanger others or don''t be allowed to go places and endanger people.

Andsed wrote:

Khataiy wrote:That is not a fair choice and it is very Authoritarian, I don't think homosexual children should go to school either because of STDs how does that sound to you.

Like a very bad analogy. STD's can only spread through sexual contact unlike diseases which can spread through many other ways. And it is a very fair choice. Either be a good member of society and vaccinate your child so you don''t endanger others or don''t be allowed to go places and endanger people.

Thermodolia wrote:

San Lumen wrote:and one day there will be another pandemic and supervises that is resistant to antibiotics and vaccines. Many biologists say its only a matter of time before it happens

Your not helping by not wanting to make vaccines mandatory

Khataiy wrote:

Andsed wrote:Like a very bad analogy. STD's can only spread through sexual contact unlike diseases which can spread through many other ways. And it is a very fair choice. Either be a good member of society and vaccinate your child so you don''t endanger others or don''t be allowed to go places and endanger people.

Regardless I wouldn't want my children in school with homosexuals so I think schools in the West should ban them if you think it is okay to ban non-vaccined children, it's only fair.

Andsed wrote:

Khataiy wrote:Regardless I wouldn't want my children in school with homosexuals so I think schools in the West should ban them if you think it is okay to ban non-vaccined children, it's only fair.

What? That is in no way fair. Homosexuals harm no one anti vaxxers do.

Khataiy wrote:

Andsed wrote:Like a very bad analogy. STD's can only spread through sexual contact unlike diseases which can spread through many other ways. And it is a very fair choice. Either be a good member of society and vaccinate your child so you don''t endanger others or don''t be allowed to go places and endanger people.

Regardless I wouldn't want my children in school with homosexuals so I think schools in the West should ban them if you think it is okay to ban non-vaccined children, it's only fair.

Khataiy wrote:

Andsed wrote:Like a very bad analogy. STD's can only spread through sexual contact unlike diseases which can spread through many other ways. And it is a very fair choice. Either be a good member of society and vaccinate your child so you don''t endanger others or don''t be allowed to go places and endanger people.

Regardless I wouldn't want my children in school with homosexuals so I think schools in the West should ban them if you think it is okay to ban non-vaccined children, it's only fair.

San Lumen wrote:

Thermodolia wrote:You claimed that taking children away from anti-vaxxers is authoritarian. I consider anti-vaux to be child abuse, I asked you if you think taking children away from child abusers is authoritarian, you responded with “its drastic and a last resort”.

Don’t give me this bullshit about you not saying anything. You either are willfully acting ignorant or you legitimately do not understand what you are advocating for would lead to


Going to see the doctor twice a year at a minimum wouldn’t be a bad idea at all. Of course it needs to coincide with UHC.

And taking children away from their abusers isn’t because of non compliance, but because they are fucking abusing their children

Answer my question first. Is taking children from their abusers authoritarian? And if it is why is that bad?

No it isn't but this not something you should seize children for.

and they dont take children to the doctor twice a year you lose your children?

Khataiy wrote:

Andsed wrote:What? That is in no way fair. Homosexuals harm no one anti vaxxers do.

In my view they do

San Lumen wrote:

Andsed wrote:Like a very bad analogy. STD's can only spread through sexual contact unlike diseases which can spread through many other ways. And it is a very fair choice. Either be a good member of society and vaccinate your child so you don''t endanger others or don''t be allowed to go places and endanger people.

so ban anyone who has an illness from leaving their house too?

San Lumen wrote:

Thermodolia wrote:Your not helping by not wanting to make vaccines mandatory

Its going to happen. Its not a question of if but when

San Lumen wrote:

Andsed wrote:Like a very bad analogy. STD's can only spread through sexual contact unlike diseases which can spread through many other ways. And it is a very fair choice. Either be a good member of society and vaccinate your child so you don''t endanger others or don''t be allowed to go places and endanger people.

so ban anyone who has an illness from leaving their house too?

Khataiy wrote:

Andsed wrote:What? That is in no way fair. Homosexuals harm no one anti vaxxers do.

In my view they do

San Lumen wrote:

Thermodolia wrote:You claimed that taking children away from anti-vaxxers is authoritarian. I consider anti-vaux to be child abuse, I asked you if you think taking children away from child abusers is authoritarian, you responded with “its drastic and a last resort”.

Don’t give me this bullshit about you not saying anything. You either are willfully acting ignorant or you legitimately do not understand what you are advocating for would lead to


Going to see the doctor twice a year at a minimum wouldn’t be a bad idea at all. Of course it needs to coincide with UHC.

And taking children away from their abusers isn’t because of non compliance, but because they are fucking abusing their children

Answer my question first. Is taking children from their abusers authoritarian? And if it is why is that bad?

No it isn't but this not something you should seize children for. and they dont take children to the doctor twice a year you lose your children?

San Lumen wrote:

Thermodolia wrote:Your not helping by not wanting to make vaccines mandatory

Its going to happen. Its not a question of if but when

Thermodolia wrote:

San Lumen wrote:
No it isn't but this not something you should seize children for.

Then why did you make the comment about people being authoritarian when they support removing children from abusive homes? And yes it is. Not vaccinating your children is child neglect which is child abuse.

Do you not care about children being abused? Are you that heartless?

and they dont take children to the doctor twice a year you lose your children?

What?

Khataiy wrote:

Andsed wrote:What? That is in no way fair. Homosexuals harm no one anti vaxxers do.

In my view they do

Andsed wrote:

San Lumen wrote:so ban anyone who has an illness from leaving their house too?

Well yeah kinda. If someone has a highly contiguous and harmful diseases putting them in quarantine is the best option. It shoiuld be done humanely of course.

Khataiy wrote:In my view they do

Well that is just nonsense. Homosexuals are not spreading anything or hurting anyone un vaccinated people are. There is a major difference.

San Lumen wrote:

Thermodolia wrote:Then why did you make the comment about people being authoritarian when they support removing children from abusive homes? And yes it is. Not vaccinating your children is child neglect which is child abuse.

Do you not care about children being abused? Are you that heartless?


What?

Why are you accusing me of things I did not say? I never said i didnt care about children being abused.

Thermodolia wrote:

San Lumen wrote:Its going to happen. Its not a question of if but when

And banning mandatory vaccines isn’t going to help shit. Making vaccines mandatory, keeping a stockpile of vaccines, and development of new vaccines would mitigate any ill effects of such an outbreak.

Also you are confusing to very different things

San Lumen wrote:

Andsed wrote:Well yeah kinda. If someone has a highly contiguous and harmful diseases putting them in quarantine is the best option. It shoiuld be done humanely of course.


Well that is just nonsense. Homosexuals are not spreading anything or hurting anyone un vaccinated people are. There is a major difference.

If one has a severe cold they should be banned from leaving their house or apartment?

San Lumen wrote:

Thermodolia wrote:And banning mandatory vaccines isn’t going to help shit. Making vaccines mandatory, keeping a stockpile of vaccines, and development of new vaccines would mitigate any ill effects of such an outbreak.

Also you are confusing to very different things

and we are magically going to have a vaccine for every disease and virus?

What am I confusing?