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Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:23 pm**

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47708144

Today the EU Parliament voted 348-278 for the controversial Article 13, which is to hold tech firms responsible for copyrighted material being posted without the permission of the copyright holder(s)

But, there is some good news, and that is memes and gifs will be exempt from this "for purposes of quotation, criticism, review, caricature, parody and pastiche."

The Article had the back of some high profile figures like Sir Paul McCartney, while other like Wyclef Jean have been against it, as well as an overwhelming majority of people online.

The purpose of the Article is "that search engines and news aggregate platforms should pay to use links from news websites." and "hold larger technology companies responsible for material posted without a copyright licence. Tech companies already remove music and videos which are copyrighted, but under the new laws they will be more liable for any copyrighted content."

So basically just corporate censorship by companies that cannot understand what fair use is and won't properly enter the 21st century.

So what say you NSG? Me, I still don't like it, even if it is a slight improvement, and I get what the purpose is about, but it feels very misguided and wrong. Also I don't think this will last considering that the EU elections are in two months so we'll see what happens then.

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:24 pm**

Who’s surprised, the EU is an authoritarian shit hole.

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:25 pm**

So when does the internet die?

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:27 pm**

There is nothing wrong with the new copyright law. It is a necessary and reasonable measure to prevent internet piracy.

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:27 pm**

Bienenhalde wrote:There is nothing wrong with the new copyright law. It is a necessary and reasonable measure to prevent internet piracy.

Written by people who don't understand the internet purely for the sake of preserving the corporate stranglehold.

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:28 pm**

Wow. Of course. I live in the US, but how long before these kinds of laws come here? I just think they're wrong.

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:28 pm**

Bienenhalde wrote:There is nothing wrong with the new copyright law. It is a necessary and reasonable measure to prevent internet piracy.

The only thing that prevents internet piracy is not having internet.

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:29 pm**

Welp, it's time to reopen that smuggling and memerunning business via Cessna.

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:29 pm**

Bienenhalde wrote:There is nothing wrong with the new copyright law. It is a necessary and reasonable measure to prevent internet piracy.

Remixers that don't have at least 1/10th of the popularity and money of Deadmau5 already have a hard time as it is to ask for permission to do their work.

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:31 pm**

Heloin wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:There is nothing wrong with the new copyright law. It is a necessary and reasonable measure to prevent internet piracy.

The only thing that prevents internet piracy is not having internet.

Pretty much. Better lose a bit of money for publicity's sake than lose all due to no one getting their memes on pain of substantial penalties.

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:31 pm**

Diarcesia wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:There is nothing wrong with the new copyright law. It is a necessary and reasonable measure to prevent internet piracy.

Remixers that don't have 1/10th of the popularity and money of Deadmau5 already have a hard time as it is to ask for permission to do their work.

Not to mention people already have a hard time dealing with copyright already, a lot of videos get taken down by copyright bots already even when they are already fair use.

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:33 pm**

Heloin wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:There is nothing wrong with the new copyright law. It is a necessary and reasonable measure to prevent internet piracy.

The only thing that prevents internet piracy is not having internet.

I have to agree. I fail to see how the EU thinks this could be effective in any measure, let alone worth the cost of implementing the Article.

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:34 pm**

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:34 pm**

Sorry. This post is not available in the European Union

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:34 pm**

I am American.

Come to me for memes. $.50 cents per hotdog.

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:35 pm**

Dresderstan wrote:So what say you NSG?

A) Ostracize each and every MEP who voted for Article 13 and help ensure that they do get kicked out, come next EU parliament elections.

B) Massive lobbying of national MPs to prevent upload filters and other bull to be included in the national laws that will be based onto the EU copryright law

C) Getting VPN might soon enough no longer be an option but a necessarity.

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:36 pm**

The South Falls wrote:I am American.

Come to me for memes. $.50 cents per hotdog.

Yes please.

If anyone feels very upset towards our current EU, do not fear for I have an EU that will not ban memes and other stuff people here are getting pretty upset about!

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:37 pm**

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:38 pm**

Did everyone miss the bit about exemptions for parodies and the like?

Or does everyone have to get their OMG MEME BANS script out?

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:39 pm**

As an American Livertarian, I think that the free Market is all well and good. Unfortunately, I hate it when they get the government to support them with laws like Article 13.

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:39 pm**

Dushan wrote:C) Getting VPN might soon enough no longer be an option but a necessarity.

Article 14: Disallow private VPNs

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:39 pm**

~~Nobody panic, they already made memes explicitly legal (unless this also repealed that...)~~ The explicit allowing of memes hopefully will include most things by common people.
I am fine with it as long as they will turn a blind eye to charities/non-profits (or not breaking it for profit) breaking it.

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:41 pm**

Vassenor wrote:Did everyone miss the bit about exemptions for parodies and the like?

Or does everyone have to get their OMG MEME BANS script out?

I'm against it purely on the fact that I'm against any strengthening of copyright law as they currently stand.

I couldn't give a damn about memes or whatever.

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:41 pm**

The South Falls wrote:I am American.

Come to me for memes. $.50 cents per hotdog.

I can get memes from Miami to Paris in 4 hours or less. Contact me if you need my services.

Note: If I'm shot down by Merkel's Luftwaffe, then I am not responsible for the loss of your memes.

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:43 pm**

Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:
The South Falls wrote:I am American.

Come to me for memes. $.50 cents per hotdog.

I can get memes from Miami to Paris in 4 hours or less. Contact me if you need my services.

Note: If I'm shot down by Merkel's Luftwaffe, then I am not responsible for the loss of your memes.

Berlin Airlift Part 2: electric booga-

THIS MEME HAS BEEN TAKEN DOWN BY THE EUROPEAN COMMISION ON ANTI-FUN

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