Article 13 Passed

[The Emerald Legion]

There won't be an internet for Europe. there are 4.54 Billion pages on the internet and Google would have to pay a fee for each one in each separate member state of the EU.

They already fucked up. There is no further fucking up to be done.

Contrary to what Alphabet wants us to believe, Google is not the Internet, and Google isn't the World Wide Web either.
Same applies to Facebook.

No but they are the biggest companies on the web.

Now, if those big companies can't afford to comply, what does that mean for all the smaller companies with less money?

[Ifreann]

Contrary to what Alphabet wants us to believe, Google is not the Internet, and Google isn't the World Wide Web either.
Same applies to Facebook.

No but they are the biggest companies on the web.

Now, if those big companies can't afford to comply, what does that mean for all the smaller companies with less money?

That no one will bother going after them very often, not enough money in it.

[Sneudal]

Just a few more articles and the EUSSR is a fact. The Fourth Reich shall rise!

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...What the actual fuck is that supposed to mean?

Exactly what it says. A few more articles and the EU will be the undemocratic opressive shithole europhiles desire it to be.

[Valrifell]

Contrary to what Alphabet wants us to believe, Google is not the Internet, and Google isn't the World Wide Web either.
Same applies to Facebook.

No but they are the biggest companies on the web.

Now, if those big companies can't afford to comply, what does that mean for all the smaller companies with less money?

The fees by smaller businesses won't be as high, considering the amount of space Google occupies in the web.

[Skyhooked]

Still, I don't know, what is truth about this article, and what is just panic. I have some feeling, that this all won't "Destroy the internet", or even disrupt status quo too much, because otherwise it will backfire. Or it's not a gut feeling and just some hopeful thoughts to calm down?

There are too many things and factors in economy tied to it, and the following can happen (those are just my guesses):
>It will be impossible to enforce and thus forgotten.
>It will be enforced partially and folks will have many loopholes.
>Damage to economy from such rush decision will be bad, and this article will be cancelled before it's too late.
>Maybe, just maybe, we misunderstood something, and when it comes to action, we won't notice this.
>EU already has enough problems (Ya' know, yellow wests, refugee crisis, rise of sceptics and populists, Brexit and many other thingies.) and possibly on brink of collapse (My wild guess, may have nothig to do with reality), so such an unpopular decision may make it less trustworthy, cause some members to leave, or even EU will dissolve (Unlikely).
>Piracy skyrockets.
>Perhaps EU domains gonna become as cheap as dirt. And useless as... ummm... Article 13.
>Add you own theory.

And of course I missed with all the guesses...

[Ameriganastan]

So the internet is officially dead. This won't stay just in Europe. It's gonna come over here in some form eventually. The free internet is now a thing of the past.

[CalcManistan]

It is a necessary and reasonable measure to prevent internet piracy.

Good thing it’s only in the EU lol

[Valrifell]

So the internet is officially dead. This won't stay just in Europe. It's gonna come over here in some form eventually. The free internet is now a thing of the past.

An incorrect and hyperbolic take, to say the least.

The law is shitty but the internet is forever. You know what changes on your end? N O T H I N G

[Ameriganastan]

So the internet is officially dead. This won't stay just in Europe. It's gonna come over here in some form eventually. The free internet is now a thing of the past.

An incorrect and hyperbolic take, to say the least.

The law is shitty but the internet is forever. You know what changes on your end? N O T H I N G

Aside from a lot of Euro YouTubers I follow and tons of European fanartists and writers I'm friends with possibly losing access to basic websites.

And again, this will come here eventually when our greedy ass government sees how much money this makes the Brit government. The internet is over.

[Ifreann]

An incorrect and hyperbolic take, to say the least.

The law is shitty but the internet is forever. You know what changes on your end? N O T H I N G

Aside from a lot of Euro YouTubers I follow and tons of European fanartists and writers I'm friends with possibly losing access to basic websites.

And again, this will come here eventually when our greedy ass government sees how much money this makes the Brit government. The internet is over.

The country that's leaving the EU is going to make money from the EU's copyright law?

How?

[Ameriganastan]

Aside from a lot of Euro YouTubers I follow and tons of European fanartists and writers I'm friends with possibly losing access to basic websites.

And again, this will come here eventually when our greedy ass government sees how much money this makes the Brit government. The internet is over.

The country that's leaving the EU is going to make money from the EU's copyright law?

How?

Brit government, European government, whatever. You know what I mean.

[Holy Tedalonia]

Aside from a lot of Euro YouTubers I follow and tons of European fanartists and writers I'm friends with possibly losing access to basic websites.

And again, this will come here eventually when our greedy ass government sees how much money this makes the Brit government. The internet is over.

The country that's leaving the EU is going to make money from the EU's copyright law?

How?

Their going to throw internet tea in the EU harbor.

Getting that nice funding from the give me internet or give me death foundation.

[Holy Tedalonia]

The country that's leaving the EU is going to make money from the EU's copyright law?

How?

Brit government, European government, whatever. You know what I mean.

No we don’t, hinting why we asked.

[Neo Kerala]

RIP The European Internet.

[Ameriganastan]

Brit government, European government, whatever. You know what I mean.

No we don’t, hinting why we asked.

I don't keep track of what country is leaving what.

Point is, Europe is killing their internet and we'll follow suit eventually. Hell, we already killed net neutrality. Just a matter of time.

[Valrifell]

An incorrect and hyperbolic take, to say the least.

The law is shitty but the internet is forever. You know what changes on your end? N O T H I N G

Aside from a lot of Euro YouTubers I follow and tons of European fanartists and writers I'm friends with possibly losing access to basic websites.

And again, this will come here eventually when our greedy ass government sees how much money this makes the Brit government. The internet is over.

Well first of all, I'll admit that I don't know a heckovalot about Article 13 but I'm reasonably sure it doesn't restrict access to websites or if that enforcement mechanism is a thing it won't be enforced all that often. Basic sites like Google and Twitter can easily afford to shell out the ducats to keep raking in money from European markets if that's what you're concerned about.

Also this isn't the Brit government. It's the European Union.

[Ifreann]

The country that's leaving the EU is going to make money from the EU's copyright law?

How?

Brit government, European government, whatever. You know what I mean.

They're very different things.

[Holy Tedalonia]

No we don’t, hinting why we asked.

I don't keep track of what country is leaving what.

Point is, Europe is killing their internet and we'll follow suit eventually, one of the oldest governments in history. Hell, we already killed net neutrality. Just a matter of time.

Tbf, the British government is a famous government known around the world. The EU is a semi-alliance and semi-organized government that governs countries. The two are neither the same or share similarities, how you mixed them up is beyond me.

Europe will find that they will likely not be able to dictate everything on the internet. Europeans do not have the jurisdiction to dictate what other country companies/citizens put on the internet, and a legal debate will likely ensue when a European company tries to sue a US one, a legal debate in our favor tbh.

[Valrifell]

I don't keep track of what country is leaving what.

Point is, Europe is killing their internet and we'll follow suit eventually, one of the oldest governments in history. Hell, we already killed net neutrality. Just a matter of time.

Tbf, the British government is a famous government known around the world. The EU is a semi-alliance and semi-organized government that governs countries. The two are neither the same or share similarities, how you mixed them up is beyond me.

Europe will find that they will likely not be able to dictate everything on the internet. Europeans do not have the jurisdiction to dictate what other country companies/citizens put on the internet, and a legal debate will likely ensue when a European company tries to sue a US one, a legal debate in our favor tbh.

Considering SCOTUS has declared itself the highest law in representing US interests, I think it'd be a tad biased.

[Auvis]

I don't like it mainly because it's from the EU, but also because I don't want to be impacted by a foreign power. I don't even live on the same continent, and now they decide to make a law that impacts something shared by everyone in the world?

[Holy Tedalonia]

Tbf, the British government is a famous government known around the world. The EU is a semi-alliance and semi-organized government that governs countries. The two are neither the same or share similarities, how you mixed them up is beyond me.

Europe will find that they will likely not be able to dictate everything on the internet. Europeans do not have the jurisdiction to dictate what other country companies/citizens put on the internet, and a legal debate will likely ensue when a European company tries to sue a US one, a legal debate in our favor tbh.

Considering SCOTUS has declared itself the highest law in representing US interests, I think it'd be a tad biased.

I’d take it over any European court. Being that it atleast keeps us interests, albeit polarized in mind.